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*screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 1:50:52 PM   
masterdeltafire


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Status: offline 		Warning: those with faint hearts and fragile computers please leave the post now before continuing reading.  Major rant and blowing off steam.

*slams fist through the wall and begins to wonder.


I spend 8 months training one towards real life, pouring all of my knowledge into one.  And where does it get  me? "Oh I'm sorry Master, this was all a game. Thank you for playing waste all your time, breath, and experience on one who has played you like a fiddle."

15 years Lifestyle, and long ago it was only ones truly devoted to it.  Now one in maybe 500 is devoted, thinks the collar is truly their prized posession, their master's love is genuine, does not play games, and hungers and thirsts for that knowledge. 

Is this all the Lifestyle is, is just kinky sex and lets keep score just how many doms girls can screw over before they say fuck it all and give up their one true passion of teaching?

Is this just a game to yall?  has the lifestyle sunk this far in 15 years there are virtually no true real lifers left?  Is there anyone left who thinks the collar is sacred, like a wedding ring, and their most prized posession and does not play these fucking games?

*Smashs yet another hole thru the wall and walks out.  God I'm sick of this..  And people wonder why the true Doms are so hard to find? 

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:02:29 PM   
Reasonable


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Status: offline 		I've had it happen to me as well,I insist on a real life meeting in a couple of months now. But let's face it,maybe one in ten online is ever going to actually come to you in real life.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:03:41 PM   
Collaredkitten


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Status: offline 		I'm sorry you are so upset and that this has happened to you..it can truely hurt to find that someone you've put your heart and soul into has a different agenda then the one they told you they do... for whatever reason, relationships D/s and others sometimes end, in the life style or no, it can hurt and leave you feeling hollow when it ends

As for yoru question, oooh yes, there are those of us who see our collars as wedding rings , as a way of life and a true bonding to the ones we are with..to be held holy and above all else, if your wondering if there are girls who stay true to their Masters, i think of course the answer is YES YES YES...D/s just like 'normal' relations will have people who lie, cheat and walk out..its a fact of life, it sucks, it hurts but there is also hope, in finding the one your meant to be with....

good luck, i hope when your calmer and feeling cooler, you'll gain some clearity and not lose hope



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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:06:06 PM   
MHOO314


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Status: offline 		May I add a search and replace to the word Dom--Domme can be substituted as well-- I am indeed sorry.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:10:35 PM   
TallDarkAndWitty


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Reasonable

I insist on a real life meeting in a couple of months now.


A couple of months???  If I haven't seen a face in two weeks, I am gone.

Life is far too short to waste it on the players, fakers, and simple wankers.

Some of life's most important lessons are the most painful to learn...

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Edited to add:  If you want real life, you'll probably have more luck finding it in real life.  The submissive gals on the i'net might be easier to spot, but the ones you meet in real life are a lot more real.


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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:10:53 PM   
BrutalAntipathy


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Status: offline 		I've never even considered training one online. The net is great for meeting, but I have always kept training hands on. There again, I am suspicious and skeptical by nature. When mine was flying to me from New York, a part of me refused to believe it until she stepped out of the taxi at Fort Worth.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:11:56 PM   
AngelicPuzzle


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Status: offline 		ohhh let me add my voice to those that say I am sorry this happened to you <many hugs> - its just not right one someone plays with feelings, DOM, sub, vanilla or otherwise.

while I'm still new to this lifestyle...I take it very seriously and consider it anything but a game....so yes some of us are still real out here.....but if you never take chance you'll never find out.

Take some time and heal but don't give up your search.....you will the one you are meant to be with...patience is what I keep being told....LOL

Mystery

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:12:17 PM   
zebra


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Status: offline 		Well, perhaps you could think of it this way. If you consider yourself a teacher and you've spent your time pouring your knowledge into someone, perhaps it isn't completely horrible that she'll spread that knowledge beyond you? That's kind of the point of learning -- and of teaching.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:14:12 PM   
perverseangelic


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Status: offline 		Well, while it -does- suck, and I'm not trying to lessen that, at least if s/he decides to come back into BDSM further down the like s/he's got a good solid background and a whole lot of knowledge.

This is why my Owner and myself don't engage in -anything- beyond conversation with potential partners online. If they want to get invovled, they have to be willing to =meet= us.


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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:19:37 PM   
uksensualsub


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Status: offline 		eeerrrggghhh! im so sorry this happened to You. This annoys me as well i hate people who waste my time, i was supposed to meet someone a couple of days ago and when i called to see where they were and just to check it was still on (this being a couple of hours before) they just said that i had the wrong number and i knew it was right person as they had spent nearly four hours talking to me a couple of days earlier. ive been looking for the right person for a very long time but ive just put it down to everything happens for a reason.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:24:41 PM   
Reasonable


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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:27:13 PM   
uksensualsub


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Status: offline 		sorry i didnt get the full original post when i first popped up the screen. i know how it feels ive had it happen being trained online and then asking for a meeting that never happens and after a year you give up waiting, asking and hoping. annoys the life out of me! those people who pretend to be what they arent are just pathetic!

to me a collar is precious and a full collar to me has the same significance as a wedding ring, a legally binding contract between Dom/Domme and slave that can be seen through the eyes and soul.

love uksensual
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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:29:48 PM   
BitaTruble


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Status: offline 		It's not a game and yes, to me the collar that Himself surrounds me with is sacred, belongs to him to remove or keep in place but that collar was not placed on a virtual neck, it was placed around a real one and it took two years to earn it's placement. Real collars have real meanings.. and when it's hard to earn and takes work to keep it, it tends to be kept in place because of it's value to the owner and to that whom it encircles.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:33:43 PM   
Proprietrix


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errr....
I'm not sure what kind of response you're looking for here.
I understand that you're probably feeling quite a bit of emotion; anger, frustration, disappointment, and a million other "negative" feelings. This too shall pass...

As I say to my youngin... "Now, what did you learn?"
The lifestyle leaves plenty of room for fakes? Yup.
Online communication provides for easily taking advantage of others and facades? Yup.
Protocol has taken a backseat to inclusivity? Yup
But surely you already knew this.

Although you didn't walk away from this with what you had hoped for, you can't say you walked away empty-handed. If nothing else, you just got 8 months of experience of training a submissive. Can you look back on that and say "What did I do right? What did I do wrong? What would I change next time?" I fully believe that anytime we teach, we also learn. You had 8 months of experiences in teaching. Try not to stay too focused on the last day of that 8 months. Her saying one time "ha ha, jokes on you." doesn't nullify the 8 months of dynamics that preceeded the punchline. It just changes which path you take with that particular person.

Many times, people feel angry because they felt made a fool of. "How could I have been so stupid?" When that's the case, sometimes it's healthier to look forward instead of back. Instead of thinking "Man, I got played." thinking "How can I better detect players in the future?" or "How can I refine my training methodologies?" might be more constructive thought processes.

I wouldn't be so quick to assume that 15 years ago (early 90's) everyone was "true" and "real". (Those are words I try to avoid anyway, because they just set us up for failure and disappointment.) Many people with a substantial amount of time/experience under their belt in *anything* will tend to look back and glamourize "The good old days." Don't get too caught up in looking back at yesteryear when there's so much to look forward to tomorrow. Change happens. Being able to keep up with such change is a virtue.

Like it or not, there are people in this lifestyle (and there always have been) who simply don't adhere to good character. Your character is built in how you handle the not-so-friendly situations you encounter. We live. We learn.


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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:35:08 PM   
Reasonable


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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:41:07 PM   
crouchingtigress


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This has happened to me more times then I wish to count.
Get on plane, a train or on a boat, when it starts to get to the point of them being in your thoughts more then 10 mins a day when you are not in the computer.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:44:33 PM   
JohnWarren


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ORIGINAL: masterdeltafire
And people wonder why the true Doms are so hard to find? 


Maybe you are looking in the wrong place.  I know plenty of "true" doms and "true" subs.  Of course, I see them at events, munches, classes and parties. 

"Meeting" someone online and leaving it online for eight months seems like a pretty good recipe for disaster.

As for the "good old days" when everyone was genuine: I recall the advertisements in Latent Image and other magazines where it was a crap-shoot that there even was a person behind the ad.

Any time you contact someone through some sort of anonymizer, you have a good chance of contacting someone who has chosen that route for a good purpose which may well not be the same reason you're using it.

Fer Ghod's sake, you're in Houston.  You can barely throw a rock in that city without hitting some sort of kinky event or group.  Go to the park and throw a whip with Travis or get some Mexican at Tortuga in Gessner on May 20th and if you don't want to wait, Eros has weekly classes at Rudyard's

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:45:44 PM   
meatcleaver


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I've said it before and I'll say it again, you just don't know who is on the other computer. I've been the victim of maliciousness once and I'm not stupid enough for it to happen twice.

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 2:53:29 PM   
JassWolf


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quote:

ORIGINAL: zebra

Well, perhaps you could think of it this way. If you consider yourself a teacher and you've spent your time pouring your knowledge into someone, perhaps it isn't completely horrible that she'll spread that knowledge beyond you? That's kind of the point of learning -- and of teaching.


As a teacher who -- not only in D/s but in the sort of classroom where people get grades, degrees, futures, etc. -- taught for many years with a  passion, commitment to the group and to the individuals, and to the subject matter, I think it's good to acknowledge that there are many who enroll (not the same as "students," you know) who will nod sagely and work eagerly ... but never learn a thing -- at the end of the course, as at the start, all that concerns them is "the grade." When you see them the next semester, they will no longer be able to recognize you, let alone be willing to greet you with the eager, hopeful smile they used while you had their name in your gradebook.

And yes, I see that part of my life as an analogy for my mentoring role as dom. The salvation that makes it possible to continue is: with practice I think it became much harder to fool me into thinking someone in my classes who was a pretender was an honest-to-god student. In D/s, prolly because of the passion required, I find it much harder ... but hope I can learn here too to see, or maybe to just "feel," the difference.

JW

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RE: *screams bloody friggin murder. - 5/1/2006 3:22:54 PM   
Dustyn


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Status: offline 		The social anarchist in me just has to ask...

What defines a dom/me as being "real", since there is no one interpretation of bd/sm that is practiced by everyone?

- Dustyn


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