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how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 dolla... - 1/11/2011 11:20:04 PM   
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this is an interesting question, to me that I thought I'd ask. So given prices for things in your grocery, how many meals from scratch,could you get supplies for at 200?  things like TV dinners that you just have to add meat to like hamburger helper for example don't count.


When we buy TV dinners an things, you usually only get 15 to 20 items for 200 an it don't sound like a lot, but, keep in mind though that some of that comes with items that have 10 a pack, say like hot pockets.  So overall you're getting more meals than just the 15 20 items would seem like.

The points not our shopping habits though, so please don't pick apart us buying mostly tv dinner products or our health or anything like that, please stick to my question, which is for you, should you buy only raw ingrediants or basic ingrediants, none of this prepaired microwavable packaged foods stuff, how many meals do you personally get out of it. that's with or with out cupons too.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 1:24:29 AM   
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That's about what I spend a month, or four weeks. I tend to stock up on things when they're on sale. That's usually meat because it stays well in the freezer. I have not eaten a TV dinner in a very long time, I think they're total junk.

Laziness has driven me to the occasional hamburger helper, things like that. But for example I don't buy pork chops, I'll get a boneless pork roast and use a big knife. Seems to "chop" quite well. With a bone, I do have a bone saw. Same thing with beef.

I'll wait for the meat sales, usually one week in the month they have twofers. That almost doubles your money. That's when I stock up. Other things are perishable, veggies and salad fixins for example. They must be bought about every week. I've also found a few deals. A box of chicken you throw in the oven already breaded and seasoned is on par with KFC, three or four bucks for six pieces. It would cost alot more at KFC. I also found shrimp cheap. It's already breaded and spiced, and for three bucks you get 12 - 14 shrimp which are HUGE. That and some fries would be ten bucks at a restaurant at least. All that and they literally cook in two minutes in a deep fryer. Three bucks per person and a potato or two for fries.

The trick is to have a reserve. A deepfreeze is a very good investment. When the sales hit I might spend a hundred bucks on just meat. The other weeks all I need is usually produce, and if things go right I can be ahead of the budget. In the past I was never on a budget, but finances have changed. (alot of that going around huh) But really, I am probably eating better. At one point I almost always went out or ordered out. It got to be hard to find healthy food doing that, and the cost was higher. I could eat out or order for $12-20 a day. Math says this is not cost effective.

That has become important. Not so long ago if I didn't order or eat out I would not care what food costs. I had no problem paying $90 for a beef tenderloin and cutting seven or eight filet mignons out of it, and even pass them out, feeding whoever happened by. Those days are over, at least for now. Knowing how to cook really helps. Having a good assortment of spices is indispensable once one knows how to use them. I have about 50 different spices on the rack, and there are only a few I don't know how to use. Home cooking need not be bland. What's more I can almost totally avoid the use of sugar and table salt. The unrefined salt is something I also stocked up on, alot of it a long time ago. But it doesn't go bad, except for clumping. If the big bags of it are not sealed properly it turns into a big rock, and then I have to literally pound salt.

There are some things you don't save much on though. I mastered making pizza, and I mean on par with the best pizza places. However by the time I get done, it costs about the same as one from a pizza place. It also takes up some of my time, at the very least an hour. Sometimes I get pizza from Chicago via a truck driving buddy of mine. (I live in Cleveland, they will not deliver) The place is called Sergios something.

Another thing you might look into is a breadmaker. I used mine for pizza dough, but it also makes bread. You like french toast ? Well this thing makes a big square loaf and you cut it yourself. Cut it thick and use like two whole eggs for each slice. It kicks ass. I forego the syrup though, and only use butter on it. It seems costly, but if you normally eat a stack of say five or six, with this you'll be stuffed with three. Yes I know that's a half dozen eggs, but so what, it's good. The bread costs almost nothing compared to buying it at the store, and a dozen eggs is still under two bucks here. The math still adds up.

The meat slicer is a good idea too because if you like sandwiches you can just buy a cheap ham and have more lunchmeat than you even want. Same with turkey or chicken, beef, whatever. A philly steak is about ten bucks from the local eatery, plus delivery. I can make them alot cheaper. The only problem is that I am having trouble finding uncut hoagie buns. For the best results you V cut them at the top. Same for sausage or meatball sandwiches. Have a look at the prices of those and do the math. Two bucks a pound for sausage, a wee little bit of sauce and some pizza cheese and you're ready to throw it in the oven. I don't even want to go into burgers. That is ridiculous, the burgers I make would cost over five bucks at an eatery or whatever. And I can have them how I want when I want, even at fiour in the morning.

Laziness pervades, HH type skillet lasagna, I can make that but sometimes just buy it. A nice little trick with that is to put some pizza cheese on top and throw it in an oven or broiler for a few minutes. What they call stroganoff isn't, but I could make that almost as easily and better. And when it comes to chicken paprikash, there is nothing on the market. I have to make it and when I do I have to lock the doors. I used to give it away. I made it using seven whole chickens and it was gone in one day. I guess I can do that once in a while, but not all the time. Not any more. Another thing I don't save any money on is spaghetti sauce. It now costs me about forty bucks to make a pot of it.

Hopefully this thread will grow, and we'll catch some new ideas. Even with all the things to cook, sometimes I am literally sick of everything. I didn't stop buying those tenderloins and porterhouse steaks so much because of the price, I actually got sick of them. What's more I have this aversion to eating the same thing two days in a row. I will eat leftovers, but not the next day. It's gettimg to be time for nacho night soon. Ever eat nachos bel grande or whatever from Taco Bell ? Well my sinister and I have it down pat. Our's is so much better that we don't even consider buying it. And it's pretty easy to make. All the same stuff could also be used for tacos or burritos. It's another winner.

And there is so much more.

T

ETA : Oops I didn't formally answer the question....... My answer is buy the base ingredients. They don't put this stuff together for you for nothing.

T

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 2:00:40 AM   
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I sometimes get lucky an see buy one get one free on equal or less value meats, and oh boy is that a field day if it's good meats. I love buy 1 get 1 free, and I am even learning to discern good deals from not deals. It'd be nice to be one of the smart ones who're so good at what they do they always make out like bandits.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 2:22:29 AM   
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I cannot cook and my diet is mostly limited to three litres of yoghurt and egg-cookies and vitamin C, which amounts to euro 2.80 per day. So I could eat sixty days on 200 dollars.

However, at least once a month I eat take-away with friends and that costs eight euro's.

And last Sunday I celebrated the birthday of a friend and we ate in a restaurant and that set me back seventeen euro's.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 3:02:24 AM   
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I cannot cook and my diet is mostly limited to three litres of yoghurt and egg-cookies and vitamin C, which amounts to euro 2.80 per day. So I could eat sixty days on 200 dollars.

However, at least once a month I eat take-away with friends and that costs eight euro's.

And last Sunday I celebrated the birthday of a friend and we ate in a restaurant and that set me back seventeen euro's.


How do you get adequate vitamin A or B vitamins?

Anyone can make soup.

You are a very intelligent man so unless the issue is you are forbidden to have a cooking source where you live, cooking is nothing more than following directions.
Using that same logic in reverse: that following a recipe is nothing more than following directions, I once got a repair manual and replaced the cooling fan motor in my car.

If you are afraid of putting things on the stove and forgetting them and starting a fire or burning them, a slow cooker is marvelous.
You put the ingredients in it and can put it on low and forget about it.

So pick vegetables you like and tolerate well, cut them up as small or as large as you like, put then in the slow cooker with water to the top and let them slowly simmer away for at least 8 hours...if it goes longer than that it won't matter.

I like the slow cookers with the removeable crockery inserts for storing and cleaning.

If you want to season it, how you do that again is dependent upon what you like and what you tolerate.

You can soak a few dried beans over night the night before and add them as well, not too many as they will expand and absorb the water and take it over.

Of course you can always add meat... if you choose.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 3:18:34 AM   
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Food in the UK is creeping up and you have to be careful about the offers because often they turn out to be enticements but no cheaper than the one not on offer.
We hardly ever do fast food but once in a while we may buy a supermarket curry for 2. They were £5.50/$6.50 before Xmas but are now £6.70.
Living on a boat we don't have a freezer but I do preserve seasonal produce. We have a friend who is a baker and so at the moment we get fresh bread daily for free. We also fish and know lots of fishermen and so we seldom pay for that and I only cook meat a couple of times a week and they tend to be cheap cuts that can be tenderized by slow cooking.
We do buy a lot of vegetables at the moment but we never bye pre-washed and packed stuff, which is more expensive and goes off much quicker. The markets always have great offers on fruit and vegetables.
We have friends or family for dinner at least once a week and feeding more costs a bit more but if we had the equivalent of $200 we would probably be feeding ourselves well for a month. More if we included things like soap powder, loo rolls, toothpaste and those sort of things.


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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 3:31:00 AM   
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How do you get adequate vitamin A or B vitamins?

Yoghurt has lots of vitamins, though not all. However, though by definition essential, various vitamins do trigger my herpes, so it is best if my body is a bit short on these triggering vitamins.

Also a couple of days per month my sister cooks for me when I visit her and our mom.

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Anyone can make soup.

Unfortunately many vegetables and most fruits also do trigger my herpes, as often do warehouse soups.

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You are a very intelligent man so unless the issue is you are forbidden to have a cooking source where you live, cooking is nothing more than following directions.

Thank you, but though I do am a supergenius, I am not very intelligent. I am a slow thinker and always struggle intellectually.

Another side of the supergenius coin is that I am apathetic. Doing stuff, taking action, cooking, keeping my room in order, is not my thing.

I absorb information - slowly - and solve not too difficult problems, that other people cannot because they are not as crazy or not as crazy in the same way as I.

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Of course you can always add meat... if you choose.

I can eat meat, and do so when visiting my relatives or when eating out.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 3:46:27 AM   
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Warehouse soups are full of additives.

Foodwise, the major trigger for herpes as I understand it is the amino acid arginine. You want to have foods that have a higher lysine to arginine ratio.

B vitamins are especially important as they are needed for the energy processes in your body (cellular) as well as brain function.



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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 4:00:39 AM   
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Without reading any other replies.........

First of all fresh and healthy means exactly that..........fresh and healthy. That means shopping the fresh produce and meat section with a short foray into the centre for things like pasta, dried beans, and a few canned items like tomatoes. Occasionally spices or olive oil.

I generally keep things like spices, flour, the basics really, on hand.

I shop seasonally. What is the freshest and least expensive. $200.00 is probably about a month's grocery budget for us. Unless I am cooking something extravagant for a lot of people.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 4:34:08 AM   
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TFTB, healthy is an arbitrary word.  For example, i don't believe most processed food is "healthy" perse` due to all the additive and preservatives.  But let's see if i can figure out what i have bought recently when i stocked up for the weight loss concept this past weekend --   remember i like many named brands so they are more expensive than the store named brands. Also i have some staples like olive oil, spices, dressing.  Also NOTE -- i can't cook, so i do basic cooking and don't do much from scratch.

I can get 4 chicken breasts for about 4 bucks.  So for $40 i can get 20 days worth of meat (lunch and dinner) for 1 person.  Many times you can get frozen veggies on sale for good deals but even without the deal they aren't that expensive -- i can get bags of frozen veggies for 3 bucks and that is usually a days worth; i would also include in this roma tomatos which is a huge staple of mine -- 1 tomato a day so about $3 bucks per week.  And a huge bag of salad which is about 3 bucks.  So for 60 bucks i have 20 days worth of veggies.  A gallon of milk is about 4 bucks.  Add some pasta for about $2 per box which can last you about 3 days - so let's say 3 days a week $8 bucks for 20 days; sauce i can get 2 for $5 and a jaw will last me 3 uses so to make it easy let's say i use it $3x per week.  Eggs, i can get 18 for $3, and use 3 a day that means it will last me a week; cheese i can get shredded packages 2 for $5 a lot of times and one will last me a week if not more.  Box of multigrain cheerios i can get for $4 and it will last me 2 weeks, I don't eat a lot of fruit but i can get apples for like 10 bucks for 20ish days.  and pop lol i can get 4 for $5 and that will last me about 10 days - So not being frugal and buying very basic, i can eat pretty much from scratch for 200 bucks for 1 person for 20 days on a menu of

Omlet for breakfast -- 3 eggs and cheese and some frozen veggies
chicken and veggies for lunch and dinner with pasta added a couple days a week.
and cereal or an apple for a snack

Its not exactly imaginative but its doable.  And be aware that i rounded down as to how long things would last, for example, sauce would last me longer probably than 3 uses because i don't use a lot.  I have one chicken breast per meal so i have extra at the end of the day. 

$40  -- 20 days
$60 -- 20 days
$32 - 20 days
$8 - 20 days
$10 - 20 days
$12 - 20 days
$10 - 20 days
$8 - 20 days
$10 - 20 days
$10 - 20 days
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$200 - without taxes

And you have to realize this is without buying things really on sale or using coupons etc.  A lot of times you can get 12 chicken breasts frozen already for about 9 bucks.  And there are many frugal people who know how to buy in bulk when things are on sale etc and freeze a lot of things so they last longer etc.

So pretty much you can do the same thing from scratch that you can from buying TV dinners if you know how to shop.  What TV dinners do is pack in a lot of preservatives and additives, and allows you the convenience of not having to figure out what you need for a recipe and buying all the little things to make flavor, and the convenience of not having to cook and clean up. 

With some planning, getting coupons and looking for sale etc, $200 bucks can be stretched probably into 30 days of healthy, from scratch type of food for 1 person.  Its not all fresh but its healthy and basic.  Also, people who know how to cook would be able to take this and stretch it even further due to knowing how to combine things into casseroles and such which would last longer.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 4:39:16 AM   
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Tfb,

I never (well almost never) buy meat at full price. I buy the quick sale stuff. If you have a decent sized freezer you can freeze it.

I also suggest using meat as part of a dish; as an ingredient. It will go much further that way. If you buy a roast cut the roast in half and roast the half. cut the other half into small bite sized pieces and divide that into portions and freeze. Use one package in a stew with lots of vegetables. One package in a cassarole, again with lots of vegetables. Make spaghetti sauce with tomato sauce and tomato puree. make enough to freeze. I like adding a can of canellini beans to a serving of sauce. If you have left over spaghetti and no sauce, put it in the fridge and make a fritata the next day: basically an omlette using the spaghetti and whatever left over veggies you might have.

Your biggest asset is to plan ahead (sort of) but have a few menus you can switch out to accomodate things being on sale.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 4:44:52 AM   
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If I don't go crazy at Whole Foods, I spend about $200 per month between WF, Publix, and the farmer's market. I make everything from scratch, always. I buy the Greenwise meat, so I pay double for chicken and a little more for ground beef. When meat is on sale, I stock up and freeze it. I almost never have to pay the full price.

My intention is not to pick on you regarding TV dinners, but to inform you that with convenience comes a price. A high, high price.

I don't buy boxed cereal - I get rolled oats and oat groats in the bulk section at Whole Foods. Buying rice and beans in bulk is very economical as well.

Extreme example: I used to belong to a natural foods coop and when I brought home a 50# bag of oats my husband asked me if we were getting a horse :) Now I just get a pound or two at a time.

I shop at a local farmers market where the produce is incredibly fresh and cheap.

I am willing to put in the time and effort because I love to cook and eating fresh, whole foods is an important value to me.

I probably have some cook books I can part with - PM me if you'd like me to mail you some.

My grandmother used to say, "If you can read, you can cook." But I think more true is, "If you can follow instructions, you can cook." I happen to be good at both :)




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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 4:46:12 AM   
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Damn TFTB lol now you have me wondering how much further i can stretch that lol.  Thanks a lot!

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 4:58:19 AM   
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It depends, with the equivalent of $200 I could possibly get through a month and we'd be well fed, I guess I would make a lot of things with potatoes, rice and pasta dishes, soups, stews, etc. Instead of eating some exotic fruit (I love sharon fruit, mangos, etc.) I'd possibly buy more apples and cut out the wines for dinner or the cheese plate at the end of dinner.


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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 4:58:47 AM   
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Why Quick, Cheap Food is Actually More Expensive

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/why-quick-cheap-food-is-a_b_681539.html

Are you familiar with Jamie Oliver's Food Revolution? You can watch the show on ABC.com and here's the website: http://www.jamieoliver.com/campaigns/jamies-food-revolution

Find a farmer's market near you: http://www.localharvest.org/


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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 5:00:03 AM   
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I spend about 200 a month on food. I start my shopping at a place called Aldis, and then Walmart.
I buy most of my meat frozen in bulk or fresh for special things. I tend to plan ahead for meals.
 
I will make chili or lasagna and that will last awhile. One large item a month that will last awhile.
I rarely buy frozen meals or even frozen pizza. I love to cook so I prepare most meals from scratch.

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 5:24:19 AM   
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Processed foods such as TV dinners are probably the most un healthy things you can eat. Read the ingrediants. They are loaded with sugar, salt and many other additives. Cook from scratch. It's cheaper and much more healthy..

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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 5:25:00 AM   
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LaT 200 for us is only for 1 trip lasts us about half a month,then bout mid month we have to go again, if we're lowOn things we regularly eat, an don't wanna wait till get everything else shopping day then he's stocking back up once a week..
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I generally keep things like spices, flour, the basics really, on hand.

I shop seasonally. What is the freshest and least expensive. $200.00 is probably about a month's grocery budget for us. Unless I am cooking something extravagant for a lot of people.


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RE: how much fresh healthy food could you buy for 200 d... - 1/12/2011 5:31:45 AM   
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We are planning our menus out a little at a time.

We get steaks/red meat when they are on sale or discounted.

I like fish so we get a bag of it frozen.  I try numerous brands and so far, the beer platter by Gordon's is on my list.

We have almost cut out sodas.  Mom gets a 2-liter and we drink one glass a day.  Rest of the time, I drink water and Mom have some Crystal Lite in various flavors.

We get french fries, waffle chips and tater tots.  I have the urge to eat potatoes, so I put some in the oven and I can munch on them.  No grease and no salt.

Tomorrow, we are headed to town to see a sleep doctor, returning some clothing (with tags), get some yarn and stuffing.  I am making a Cthulhu monster after I finish H's penguin.  I also need to call in my meds since some of them has to be ordered.


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I know, still isn't gonna stop me from eating them, I at this point really don't care if they suck for you, I like em. I will continue to eat them. Though I will try to eat less because I wish to spend money on healthier things. How bad they are isn't the point, or how much better home cooked is. the point was compared to all fresh items how many meals/items can you get for 200. To compare We get around 15 -20items for 200
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Processed foods such as TV dinners are probably the most un healthy things you can eat. Read the ingrediants. They are loaded with sugar, salt and many other additives. Cook from scratch. It's cheaper and much more healthy..


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