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Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the plan... - 1/17/2011 10:39:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the planet for vaccines Bill Gates is promoting a plan to use wireless technology to register every newborn on the planet in a vaccine database./snip
what a dumb idea!
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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 10:41:21 AM   
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Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the planet for vaccines Bill Gates is promoting a plan to use wireless technology to register every newborn on the planet in a vaccine database./snip
what a dumb idea!



And why,exactly, is it dumb?

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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 10:42:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Because the biometrics component is akin to chipping the baby. 

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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 10:43:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bill Gates is retired.
Bill Gates is not a player in wireless.
Europe would rip the hide off Microsoft if this was legit.

I'm not even going to bother reading the link.

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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 10:45:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Gates suggested using cell phones to record each birth and send the information, including biometric identifiers, to a central database/

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Such ideas could conceivably involve using the GPS devices inside phones to physically track parents who do not bring their children in for vaccines./snip

While some good could potentially come of it-- it opens up a can of worms into tracking and central data base.  Besides- are parents really that incapable??

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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 10:47:26 AM   
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Can you imagine the fuss if it had been Steve Jobs saying that?

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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 10:49:56 AM   
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Bill Gates is retired.
Bill Gates is not a player in wireless.
Europe would rip the hide off Microsoft if this was legit.

I'm not even going to bother reading the link.


Despite the source Gates address to the mHealth summit did include that suggestion. Of course it takes hunk and PP to blow it up into implanting chips.

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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 10:53:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		If the parents aren't capable of raising the kids, the State has to step in. That's part of what the State is there for.

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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 10:56:13 AM   
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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 10:58:31 AM   
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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 11:00:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		And, at the risk of spawning another bizarre tirade about Goldman Sachs and global warming, what do you feel is the role of the state if it isn't there to protect its citizens?

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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 11:00:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe-  but refusing a cell phone registry of and in itself is not neglect.  

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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 11:01:52 AM   
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And, at the risk of spawning another bizarre tirade about Goldman Sachs and global warming, what do you feel is the role of the state if it isn't there to protect its citizens?


The role of the state is to maximize profits for corporations.

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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 11:02:43 AM   
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You appear to be constructing bizarre paranoid fantasies that bear no resemblance to what Gates said in the first place.

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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 11:04:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		So now people need to have a cell phone to give birth?  Or be in the presence of one?

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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 11:08:00 AM   
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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 11:21:17 AM   
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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 11:23:41 AM   
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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 11:25:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		You did.  You want the state to take away kids who are not registered to a cell phone grid. 

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RE: Bill Gates wants to register all new babies on the ... - 1/17/2011 11:28:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		No I didn't. I said that the State is obliged to step in when parents are incapable of looking after their kids. I never said a word about mobile phones.

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