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keepmehard -> older men (1/23/2011 8:19:16 PM)

why do subs say that age is a factor? it sseems to me a lot of subs are just looking for boyfriends, not an experienced master




Aileen1968 -> RE: older men (1/23/2011 8:22:52 PM)

And it looks like a lot of old guys are just looking for someone to keep them hard.




IrishMist -> RE: older men (1/23/2011 8:25:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968

And it looks like a lot of old guys are just looking for someone to keep them hard.

LMFAO

As to the OP
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why do subs say that age is a factor? it sseems to me a lot of subs are just looking for boyfriends, not an experienced master


Perhaps you would be so kind as to explain to me what exactly age has to do with experience?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[:o]




Killerangel -> RE: older men (1/23/2011 8:30:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: keepmehard

why do subs say that age is a factor? it sseems to me a lot of subs are just looking for boyfriends, not an experienced master


Yeah, so? If they want a boyfriend I guess they're entitled to one. I guess not everyone wants an experienced master.

Why does it seem as though you have a problem with what these subs you are referring to want? Is it because you're being turned down by younger women? I don't think women closer to your age would have a problem, maybe you should consider staying in your own age range if it bothers you to be turned down.

For me, yes, age is a factor. I'd like to be with someone in my age range because that is what I prefer.




lizi -> RE: older men (1/23/2011 8:45:02 PM)

OP, the tone of your posting seems kind of whiny, and I'm not sure why people aren't entitled to look for what they have themselves determined to be what they want. If I want cereal for breakfast I'm pretty much going to have it. I don't find much older men attractive to me sexually, so I'm not going to choose them as a partner no matter how much experience they have.

Are you saying that submissives are supposed to just accept play or a relationship with an older man because he desires it and claims experience? How....quaint. If that's the case it seems rather self-serving doesn't it....?




Zevar -> RE: older men (1/23/2011 10:02:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: keepmehard

why do subs say that age is a factor? it sseems to me a lot of subs are just looking for boyfriends, not an experienced master


As you may know, generalizations tend to produce empirical accuracy. Therefore your assumption about submissive ladies limit’s the capacity for your generalizations to be uniformly accurate. Point in fact, I am an older man, and I do not agree with your generalizations about submissive ladies. Not at all! Perhaps you might want to rethink what it is you are trying to convey for those of us who can only reply based on the words you present. Are you saying that ALL submissive ladies do this or that without differing? Or are you saying that you have had various experiences with submissive ladies that lead you to believe what you experienced is uniformly related to ALL submissive ladies?

Take Care!




willbeurdaddy -> RE: older men (1/23/2011 10:07:10 PM)

Why wouldnt it be a factor? If someone is looking for a relationship then all aspects of it have to work, not just your experience with your devices of choice. Are you quite certain that the age of a potential submissive isnt a factor in whether you would pursue a relationship?




DarkSteven -> RE: older men (1/23/2011 10:25:15 PM)

Fella, I just looked at your profile, and it reads like a horny teenager's, filled chock full of kink, and nothing about the mental aspects.  It sure doesn't sound like the profile of an experienced Master.

That said, if you aim for women in their forties and fifties, they may be more compatible with you.




GreedyTop -> RE: older men (1/23/2011 10:29:32 PM)

wow..
I had to re-read the op..I thought I'd strayed into the "why cant I find a domme" thread #4,672,951




sexyred1 -> RE: older men (1/23/2011 10:32:11 PM)

OP, your profile is just like a million other guy's profile where it simply lists activities you want to do and how it is all about you.

Newsflash: it is never just about you, it takes two to tango.

Your profile name is even self serving. Age is another one in a long line of preferences that people are entitled to have, despite your whining about it.

I find it more attractive not to say you are an experienced Master, but to demonstrate your experience in being a man on this planet for 68 years. One would think you would have mastered the concept of finesse; but that is something lacking in people of all ages.




peppermint -> RE: older men (1/23/2011 10:46:11 PM)

You also have preferences.  You want a female submissive.  What is wrong with a male submissive?  Shouldn't a Master be able to Master anyone, males as well as females?  This is not all about sex you know.  You could Master a male submissive for your sadistic leanings and find a vanilla female for the sex part if you are straight. 

We all have preferences.  Some want their partner to live within a certain distance.  Others have certain height requirements.  Many are only attracted to people with a certain body type or a certain color of hair.  There are people who only want a certain race.  Strangely, we get young Doms complaining in the forums that the submissives want older Masters.  Some want to marry their partner and have a family.  There are even some who just want a regular partner to play with, no strings attached.  A submissive does not HAVE to accept any Dom, Dick, or Harry, of any age, of any size, no matter where they live,not matter what the conditions just because that person claims to be a Master. 

I am very sorry if you are finding it difficult to find a submissive.  To be quite frank, according to my male friends it is very difficult to find someone when you are over 60 let alone almost 70.  This is especially true if you would prefer to find someone younger.  Many looked for years before finding someone.  You have been a member here for a month.  Rome was not built in a day, and submissive are not found in a month when you are over 60, or any age for that matter.

I do understand the problems of older Doms and submissives.  Gary is going to be 70 in a few days and I will be 60 soon.  I do understand the difficulties of finding partners at our age.  It is especially difficult for older males as there are so many more of them than older kinky females.  However, whining as your first post in a forum will not make you more attractive to any submissive. 

Remember this please.  Until a submissive has agreed to be YOUR submissive and agrees to wear YOUR collar, the submissive has the rights to have any preferences he/she might have for whatever reasons he/she has for those preferences. 




peppermint -> RE: older men (1/23/2011 10:50:38 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: keepmehard

why do subs say that age is a factor?


Sorry, I forgot to answer this question.  Submissives say age is a factor because to them it IS a factor.  Simple.

This does not make the submissive any less true. 




myotherself -> RE: older men (1/23/2011 11:14:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: keepmehard

why do subs say that age is a factor?



So subs aren't allowed to have personal preferences? We're not allowed to want to serve someone we may find *gasp* attractive to us?

And of course as men age, there are certain 'physical' reasons why a younger woman may not choose him over another, younger man. I'm 45 years old. I love sex. I hope to be having a great deal of very dirty, sweaty sex for many years to come. (pun intended).

If I were to choose a man who is, say, around 70 years old now. In 10 years I'll be 55 and still wanting to bang like a bunny. He'll be 80, with all the issues that brings.

When I'm 60 (and yes, undoubtedly still rather interested in the horizontal mumba), he'll be 85. A kilo of viagra and a crane would be needed to give me what I wanted.

I realise that this makes me untw00 and a 'fake' (insert eye rolling emoticon here), but out in the real world, this kind of thing matters to some of us.

quote:


it sseems to me a lot of subs are just looking for boyfriends, not an experienced master


Wow - so we're not allowed to want a relationship with a D/s dynamic? Dammit, I must reread my Sub's Handbook! Seriously dude, while there are people out there whose kink is just to serve, there are many, many people who are looking for that compatible partner to create a life together.

I'm recently 'not single' (yay!). Do I refer to him as my 'boyfriend'? Nope. He's 'the Boss', Master or 'The Domly One'. We play very hard, we giggle together, go to the cinema, to the pub, cuddle up and watch a movie on tv. But at all times it's clear he's in charge. We have a relationship that is growing better by the day. He has strong feelings for me, and me for him.

Does that make us NOT an M/s couple? Not in the slightest. We've just injected reality into your rather narrow view of what tw00 M/s is.




MistressDarkArt -> RE: older men (1/24/2011 1:19:23 AM)

Age is just a number. Your profile narrative, on the other hand, speaks volumes about why you may be having trouble attracting a suitable partner. Specifically, I think many women will find your kinky laundry list offensive, shallow, and one-dimensional. I can't find anything in there that would encourage a woman of any age to respect and trust you with her entire being let alone be 'spread open for pussy ass and tit pain' because that's YOUR definition of what a true sub must want. For heaven's sake man, present yourself as a gentleman! It is de rigueur to Mastership, lesson one actually, especially when a man reaches 'a certain age.'




bornbothsexes -> RE: older men (1/24/2011 1:23:23 AM)

I kow I think of an older master as power and I do not think that a younger person haveing that.I would have to say that I am attracted to older it rep. wiser to me .Don t get me wrong to each there owne I am no where near able to judge enyone ,I would have to say I can answer from the middle




gothikbutterfly -> RE: older men (1/24/2011 2:16:07 AM)

my Master is 12 years older than me. i'm 28. does that mean i am his slave and he is my Master? HELL NO! he loves me dearly and i love him,and we have more than an M/s relationship because we connected on a deeper level other than M/s.




RCdc -> RE: older men (1/24/2011 3:18:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: keepmehard

why do subs say that age is a factor? it sseems to me a lot of subs are just looking for boyfriends, not an experienced master


Age does not equal experience.




LillyBoPeep -> RE: older men (1/24/2011 3:26:07 AM)

if you want a power exchange relationship, but also want a family life with kids in it, it's hard to envision that with someone who's TOO old. i like older men, but i want to have kids at some point.
and age has literally nothing to do with experience; it's a logical assumption to make -- more years on the planet SHOULD mean more time spent evaluating yourself and learning. but there are some pretty big idiots who are older than 40, and some pretty smart cookies who are younger than me. =p
older men expect "experience" to send all the nubile 18-22 year olds their way, but sometime they want to give VERY LITTLE back. a lot of them only want girls around to "keep them hard," or to tote around as arm candy to show the world "hey i've still got it!"
personal preference is what it is -- stop looking at people who's preferences don't line up with yours, and find those who DO line up with you. peppermint makes an excellent point -- why do you need a female submissive? can't you be an "experienced Master" for anyone seeking that experience?
flesh out your profile with something OTHER than the general kinky sex you want. in my experience, even though they can go together well, kinky sex and Mastery have little in common. =p and that "true sub" nonsense generally turns people off.




kalikshama -> RE: older men (1/24/2011 3:50:05 AM)

I prefer men with decades of experience but your profile reads like a 20 something HNG.




LillyBoPeep -> RE: older men (1/24/2011 3:53:39 AM)

kalikshama, you are wonderful. ^_^




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