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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 9:08:22 AM   
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Lets say your'e on a trip and have to recharge your car. Just how long will it take to do so ? Maybe 2 to 4 hours ?.

30 minutes.


Isn't a 30 minute charge only good for about 10 miles, though? 

That is what I gathered from the article in USA Today about the retail stores adding the outlets.  http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/2011-01-14-electric-car-charging-stations_N.htm

But I could be wrong.  I have never really looked into electric car charging times.

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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 9:10:28 AM   
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Beyond their control? Or were they bought out?


I think that he is talking about the Stirling engine from the 1800's.

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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 9:13:21 AM   
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Beyond their control? Or were they bought out?


I think that he is talking about the Stirling engine from the 1800's.


When Aylee was a kid- gas was .12 cents a gallon!   They cleaned your windows- put air in your tires and checked under the hood. and gave you a free glass when you filled up.


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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 9:13:48 AM   
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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 9:20:36 AM   
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Beyond their control? Or were they bought out?


I think that he is talking about the Stirling engine from the 1800's.


I was thinking more of Victorian road steamers (there were several) than the things NASA and GM experimented with last century. I'm not sure if any of those used stirling engines rather than conventional steam ones. None of them were a great success, though: I do know that much.

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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 9:41:43 AM   
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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 9:53:48 AM   
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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 10:01:59 AM   
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Its feasible.

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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 10:10:42 AM   
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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 11:40:21 AM   
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Pending that infrastructure, very few people drive more than 50 miles a day. You can rent a gasser for long trips.

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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 11:42:05 AM   
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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 11:53:09 AM   
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Lets say your'e on a trip and have to recharge your car. Just how long will it take to do so ? Maybe 2 to 4 hours ?.

30 minutes.


Where did you get that figure from?

Nissan says it takes about 7 hours to fully charge the Leaf.  That's that home on the 220 volt system.  They mention a 480 volt fast charge system that may be available in the future, "when a standard is selected".

There is a system in Japan but it's not even really being deployed wide spread until March this year .  Don't look for anything like that here soon.

That charging system runs about $60,000 up to $120,000 to install.  They say an 80% charge in 30 minutes.  

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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 12:11:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		With current technology the only viable approach is swappable batteries that can be charged far more efficiently and in off-peak hours.

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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 12:13:00 PM   
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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 12:14:38 PM   
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With current technology the only viable approach is swappable batteries that can be charged far more efficiently and in off-peak hours.


We all know how cell phone batteries can last for weeks, months!  HAAAAAAAAAAA! lol

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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 12:15:17 PM   
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The Volt has a gasoline engine that charges the battery as you drive.


Yeah, and until they invent a perpetual motion device, that accomplishes nothing that is any better than just driving on gas.

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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 12:18:30 PM   
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Volt, 237 mpg city
Leaf, 367 mpg city

and your 1967 volkwagen is getting what? 

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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 12:19:55 PM   
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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 12:38:25 PM   
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I have paid $5 a gallon before   was in the late 70's.   So to see it would not be a shock.


What alternate universe was that? 

Gas didn't average a dollar a gallon till 1980.  I might have been only been in high school but I know gas was in seventy to eighty cent range.

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RE: Will $5 a gallon gas soon be the reality? - 1/24/2011 12:39:47 PM   
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