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RE: Where is the Goddess in spirituality? - 1/29/2011 6:10:41 PM   
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http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2005/10/11/better-off-without-him/


Fascinating, thanks for posting. Will re-read it in the AM when I'm fresh.

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RE: Where is the Goddess in spirituality? - 1/29/2011 6:13:30 PM   
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all you could muster against a scientist's findings was an ad hominem attack like that of your earlier comment, '"Using Christian Fundamentalism as a stalking horse for religions that worship a creator is evidence of either a stunningly ignorant or dishonest anti-theist bias, or else serious brain disease."

Call it what you like, I stand by the statement. I view it as no different from calling a man who picks my pocket a thief.

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But I haven't dismissed such women as 'ignorant victims of sexist oppression'. Not ever. That's a slant that you've put on what I've said and bears no relation to my views.

Be that as it may, words like "sexism" and "sexist" are rotten with pejorative connotations. If you don't like the implications, perhaps you shouldn't use them?

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If you can deal with me, and those like me, without smugness and sarcasm, I'll listen. You have no idea how much I'd like to hear the views of those who have something interesting to say on religion, mysticism . . . even 'The Truth'.

I have not found that to be particularly evident, but anything is possible.

The hard bit will be the "without sarcasm" part.

K.

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RE: Where is the Goddess in spirituality? - 1/29/2011 6:59:34 PM   
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Why does mainstream society still seem to deny any level of a "Female" God?


I suspect the lack of acknowledgement of goddess is directly linked to a down play of the female role in humanity. I’m leaning toward the idea that such acknowledgement is dangerous for the presiding god; making his goal that much harder to reach.

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I just find it hard to believe that God is all "He".I would think that there should be some balance when it comes to spirituality.


There is balance, just not in equal proportions. He isn’t half and half, but one, surrounded by a number of females whom appear to be directly related to him.

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RE: Where is the Goddess in spirituality? - 1/29/2011 8:21:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata



We project the divine within us onto the "outside," that's the projection part. Attributes of gender, a jealous nature, etc., are the construction part.

My view, anyway.

K.



Would I be a million miles off the mark if I concluded from your comment that, for you, 'God' is then the collective of the divine within each and every human?

If this is a fair summary, it strikes me as a lovely way of looking at things.

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RE: Where is the Goddess in spirituality? - 1/29/2011 8:46:57 PM   
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I am curious.Most of the religions here in America and I assume in other parts of the World,focus on the Male God only.God is always referred to as Him.


Actually, some "other parts of the World" have a strong notion of a Goddess, or of a Divine Couple (God and Goddess).  In modern Hinduism, there are three main branches. One of them, the Shakta branch, worships Shakti, the Goddess specifically. The other two are Vaishnava (who worship Vishnu as Supreme God) and Shaiva (who worship Shiva in that capacity). Many, but not all, traditions of Vaishnava and Shaiva venerate their form of God in conjunction with a Goddess. Even here in America, there are a fair number of Vaishnava temples, and in many of them you can see such a Divine Couple enshrined, most often Krishna and His feminine counterpart, Radha.

Another religion that is considered a major world religion is Shinto (or Kami no Michi), the native religion of the Japanese people. For them, the divine feminine is often just as prominent. For example, the Sun, Amaterasu, is a paramount Goddess. And there is a Divine Couple responsible for the creation of Japan, Izanagi and Izanami. There are esoteric traditions that see Them as far more profound and significant than the myths would make them seem, as well.

There are other examples out there that a little research can reveal to us.

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RE: Where is the Goddess in spirituality? - 1/30/2011 4:25:43 PM   
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Would I be a million miles off the mark if I concluded from your comment that, for you, 'God' is then the collective of the divine within each and every human?

Maybe not a million miles... but not the Borg, either.

And, I think, within more than just human beings...

Split a piece of wood, and I am there. ~Gospel of Thomas

K.

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