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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

The following are examaple of what I meant when I said you are finding things to not change your ways.

And I am going to scold you like a child.


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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

I have already told her, if a meal's not something I should be eating I am going to have to decline eating it, and it's not to be rude, it's because it's stuff I'm not supposed to be having right now.

This problem is not your Mothers. It's yours. You need to own it. So what if Mom makes an unhealthy meal ? You can still make a meal of your own. It's not Mom's responsibilty, nor Daddy's nor anyone elses to make you the proper meals and spoon feed you into healthiness. It's your responsibility.

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The dietician at kiaser for diabeties doesn't want me having juices at all, not even in 1/2 cup servings, because there's way to much sugar even in all natural juice and way to many carbs. I

I really think you didn't understand the woman. Pasta is no different than a potato or rice or bread. Ans diabetics NEED carbs. In the right quantity. They make fruit juices with no added sugar. Drinking a 1/2 cup of no sugar added fruit juice is no different in sugar and carb intake than eating the actual fruit. Altho the whole fruit has more benefits in general. I find it difficult to believe they are telling you that you may not have any bread. A piece of whole grain bread is healthier than a serving of mashed potatoes, even tho the carb content and calories are the same.
If that's what they said, then that's what they said. But make sure you heard them right. Diabetes runs rampant in my family and I have taught my relatives diabetic diets, even made their meal plans for them, in the beginning. I had them run it by their MDs or dieticians and never once did they tell them they couldn't have bread, pasta, juice or the other things they are telling you. Altho, they like you to drink fruit juice less frequently than eating real fruit.

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ORIGINAL: angelikaJ

Tfb,
It also sounds like your pre-diabetes has gotten more severe if the dietician is telling you to curb your carbs?

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

I get mad, and sad, and frusterated, because if I get healthy and loose weight and get myself on  a path to well being and he don't I will leave him beind, and  I will out grow him, and I love him to much to want to out grow him because I chose to climb out of the mire and muck and junk food an he didn't.

You might not outgrow him...you might inspire him to improve himself so he still deserves you.

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ORIGINAL: hausboy

Food and taste can sometimes be all in the mind.
I know people that wrinkle their noses at foods and they've never even tasted them.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

 If 'Daddy' is eating late at night, so what?  It's not like you are required to do the same.  Yes, feel free to tell Me how mean I am to you.  If I don't read it on the thread this time around, I'm sure I'll catch it on the next one you start in the coming months because you want to pay more lip service to your food and weight issues, but you don't actually *do* anything.

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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

TFB and DesFIP:

I defer to your dieticians. I just pulled out the print out they gave my Mother 6 years ago when she was diagnosed with Diabetes. It says to "avoid fruit juices", but it also says she can have it no more than 3 times a week. It also states to divide the fruit portions so that she is eating her total fruit and veggie allowance spread out 5 times thoughout the day, as it will prevent spikes in her blood sugar. That is why I questioned whether you < TFB > had understood correctly. I do her meal plans weekly and have her beloved apple juice scattered throughout the week. Just a note : I do her meal plans cuz she is older and doesn't understand the diet. Her HgbAIC has been normal with a few peaks when she has been * bad *.

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

Because him eating thigns I find tasty and yummy and appealing trigger my urdges and desires to eat, and yeah I could just not eat, but once you stir up and trigger my desire to eat, it's like taunting a hungry dog with a steak they can't have. It's like saying oh yumm oooooh look juice steak I got it you don't, you want the steak, it's yummy you know, you want it? well you can;'t have it neener neener neener. It's cruel to taunt someone you claim to love with food you know they can't have, or shouldn't have, knowing you eating it right in front of them is going to trigger their desire to eat and cause them distress as they fight the trigger.

I'm not at the point where I can just say oh well and turn a blind eye and nose to him eating things I want very badly and can't have.

That's like going up to a drug addict or alcholic addict partner, and snorting their fav drug right in front of them, or drinking their fav drink in front of them, and saying I know you can't have it and I know watching me snort up or throw back the bottle is hard on you, and makes you want to drink but oh well just cause I am waving your favorite choice of destruction in your face don't mean you can';t resist it, and I shouldn't be curtious enough not to rub your issue in your face/.

If you love someone and you care about them and you know that X is a trigger to them and will trigger them to wanna do X to and they shouldn't, why would you wanna be so callous as to sit in front of them having X knowing it's an issue for your partner.

No, you're not mean you speak a very valid truth about it having to come from with in me and it's ultimatly me.

But I do expect my partner to not make it any harder than it is going to be and be respectful of me and not basically wave foods I am not supposed to have under my nose and always "taunt" me with it. And thankfully he agree's

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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

Because him eating thigns I find tasty and yummy and appealing trigger my urdges and desires to eat, and yeah I could just not eat, but once you stir up and trigger my desire to eat, it's like taunting a hungry dog with a steak they can't have. It's like saying oh yumm oooooh look juice steak I got it you don't, you want the steak, it's yummy you know, you want it? well you can;'t have it neener neener neener. It's cruel to taunt someone you claim to love with food you know they can't have, or shouldn't have, knowing you eating it right in front of them is going to trigger their desire to eat and cause them distress as they fight the trigger.

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ORIGINAL: frazzle

I offered to email you, nutritional, easy to cook, low cost meal plans around 3 years ago.
Which was turned down.

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: frazzle

I offered to email you, nutritional, easy to cook, low cost meal plans around 3 years ago.
Which was turned down.

You are welcome to send them to me. I am always looking for new stuff. I love to cook and your adjectives make these things sound irresistible! Easy AND cheap? WOOTELS!

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ORIGINAL: frazzle

I offered to email you, nutritional, easy to cook, low cost meal plans around 3 years ago.
Which was turned down.

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4 oz of juice in the morning to wash pills down is no biggie. But drinking a glass or two of juice with every meal is. That's why they say to avoid it.