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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 11:28:22 AM   
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I saw this on the news too. Funny how they didn't mention why these rolling blackouts were occurring.

First of all, it is true that almost all new power plants especially nuclear power plants have been blocked by the democrats. We had the black fox nuclear power plant blocked by the activist in the 70's. Now it would cost hundreds of billions to build the same power plant.  I also find it funny how Obama supposedly wants a few more nuclear power plants but yet there is nothing on the drawing board or at least the red tape is not being eliminated to expedite construction.

Secondly, the republicans have now done an about face on unlimited immigration realizing that our infrastructure is unable to keep up with unlimited population growth. Democrats still haven't admitted that. We can't even afford to maintain the roads, bridges, and schools we already have, and democrats want to expand them all for Illegal Aliens.

Third, natural gas prices have soared over the past 20 years due to unlimited population growth. People are resorting to electric heaters to save money which are putting an abnormally high demand on power requirements in the winter.

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 11:30:35 AM   
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Wow. Every "fact" wrong. That's a record, even for you!

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 11:31:52 AM   
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Gas is still cheaper then electric here in PA.  There was talk of building a new nuke plant- here- I dont know if it got anywhere... 

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 11:33:38 AM   
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I saw this on the news too. Funny how they didn't mention why these rolling blackouts were occurring.

First of all, it is true that almost all new power plants especially nuclear power plants have been blocked by the democrats. We had the black fox nuclear power plant blocked by the activist in the 70's. Now it would cost hundreds of billions to build the same power plant.  I also find it funny how Obama supposedly wants a few more nuclear power plants but yet there is nothing on the drawing board or at least the red tape is not being eliminated to expedite construction.

Secondly, the republicans have now done an about face on unlimited immigration realizing that our infrastructure is unable to keep up with unlimited population growth. Democrats still haven't admitted that. We can't even afford to maintain the roads, bridges, and schools we already have, and democrats want to expand them all for Illegal Aliens.

Third, natural gas prices have soared over the past 20 years due to unlimited population growth. People are resorting to electric heaters to save money which are putting an abnormally high demand on power requirements in the winter.


So just how are the Republicans planning to address the problem of unlimited population growth, then? I take it sex education for school children, free abortion for pregnant teenagers (or anybody else who fancies one), the distribution of prophylactics to anybody who needs them to limit the population growth and other such measures are all on the table?

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 11:34:06 AM   
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Wow. Every "fact" wrong. That's a record, even for you!


What are you talking about?  By this time next week -- none of the nations electric cars will be able to plug into the rolling black outs. It will be gridlock and total break down on our freeways.   because - electric cars do not use energy--  this according to YOU.

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 11:37:52 AM   
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Wow. Another post with not only every fact wrong, but not even on the same subject, citing things I've never said and positions I've never held.

The sun must be bright in Wonderland today.

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 11:45:43 AM   
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Mexico canceled transfer... but.. PP stated.

As well as hospitals, nursing homes, fire stations, police stations, other emergency response facilities have also been hit with outages as demand soars due to freezing temperatures. Many places in Texas now rely on Mexico to supply their power

Which is it?


Maybe instead of complaining- you should be glad that PA does not have rolling black outs.



The only one here complaining is you, little tin foil hat boy.

Are you sure you are mentally capable enough to even understand a news article?

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 11:52:03 AM   
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In light of this dastardly development- we need to re-think the rush to plug in cars.

Tazz-  my electric bill is PAID.  

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 12:01:19 PM   
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We know. You spent most of a week bitching about your bill.

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 12:14:44 PM   
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Fury Builds Over Blackouts Caused By De-Industrialization Of America Fury is building over rolling nationwide blackouts triggered by the Obama administration’s deliberate agenda to block the construction of new coal-fired plants, as local energy companies struggle to meet Americans’ power demands amidst some of the coldest weather seen in decades.

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 12:15:36 PM   
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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 12:17:38 PM   
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Fury Builds Over Blackouts Caused By De-Industrialization Of America Fury is building over rolling nationwide blackouts triggered by the Obama administration’s deliberate agenda to block the construction of new coal-fired plants, as local energy companies struggle to meet Americans’ power demands amidst some of the coldest weather seen in decades.


I've no sympathy at all: if they're cold, they can burn theirthe bank's house to keep warm...

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 12:42:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls

I saw this on the news too. Funny how they didn't mention why these rolling blackouts were occurring.

First of all, it is true that almost all new power plants especially nuclear power plants have been blocked by the democrats. We had the black fox nuclear power plant blocked by the activist in the 70's. Now it would cost hundreds of billions to build the same power plant.  I also find it funny how Obama supposedly wants a few more nuclear power plants but yet there is nothing on the drawing board or at least the red tape is not being eliminated to expedite construction.


I never believed anyone could get facts so wrong as to be either lies or just stupidity.

For the record, since 2007 there have been 21 applications to the NRC for the building of new nuclear power plants, for a total of 30 reactors. The applications are far enough along that the Shaw Group and Westinghouse would construct a factory at the Port of Lake Charles at Lake Charles, Louisiana to build components for the Westinghouse AP1000 nuclear reactor.

On October 23, 2008, it was reported that Northrop Grumman and Areva were planning to construct a factory in Newport News, Virginia to build nuclear reactors.

If there was "so much red tape" delaying the applications, why would two companies be building new factories to build the fucking reactors.

In 2010, in order to facilitate (cuckoldmepls that means "make easier") President Barack Obama announced loan guarantees for two new reactors at Georgia Power's Vogtle NPP.
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Also in 2010:
Two other reactors in Texas, four in Florida and one in Missouri have all been "moved to the back burner, mostly because of uncertain economics". (cuckoldmepls that means they cant find investors who are interested in putting money into the project)

Constellation Energy has "pulled the plug" on building a new reactor at its Calvert Cliffs Nuclear Power Plant despite a promised $7.5 billion loan guarantee from the Department of Energy". The Federal government guaranteed the loan to build the plant, which means the government would be the one holding the bag of the power company defaulted on the laons. (cuckoldmepls that shows the government was doing what it could to make it possible to build the plant)

Exelon has withdrawn its application for a license for a twin-unit nuclear plant in Victoria County, Texas, citing lower electricity demand projections.

Ground has been broken on two new nuclear plants with a total of four reactors.

The Obama administration is seeking the expansion of a loan guarantee program but as of December 2010 has been unable to commit all of the loan guarantee money already approved by Congress.

Since talk a few years ago of a “nuclear renaissance”, gas prices have fallen and old reactors are getting license extensions.



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Secondly, the republicans have now done an about face on unlimited immigration realizing that our infrastructure is unable to keep up with unlimited population growth. Democrats still haven't admitted that. We can't even afford to maintain the roads, bridges, and schools we already have, and democrats want to expand them all for Illegal Aliens.


cuckoldmepls, isnt Senator John McCain from Arizona a democrat?

Oh, wait, now I remember, he is a REPUBLICAN!

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McCain Proposes Amnesty Again AND Again

Do you remember the McCain-Kennedy Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill? Do you remember the last time John McCain tried to force Amnesty on America? That was back in 2007…

…After 12 to 40 million illegal aliens had invaded the U.S. from across the Mexican border, John McCain proposed Amnesty!

…When the economy crashed, causing the largest recession and loss of jobs since the Great Depression, John McCain proposed Amnesty (and is still pushing for illegals to come to America and take the jobs that U.S. citizens desperately need.)!

…And as the flow of drugs from South America and Mexico across the U.S. border increased to record levels, John McCain proposed Amnesty!
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Third, natural gas prices have soared over the past 20 years due to unlimited population growth. People are resorting to electric heaters to save money which are putting an abnormally high demand on power requirements in the winter.



Table of Natural gas prices, supply side.

As of January 2011, cost of natural gas to the supplier was about $4.50 per thousand cubic feet, the record was $15.38 per thousand cubic feet.

Now, as for consumer prices, the highest rates paid for gas service is $18 to $22 per thousand cubic feet on the east coast and the gulf states with the exception of Texas which is between $14-$16 per thousand cubic feet, which makes the price per cubic foot in the most expensive states $.45 per cubic foot. Pretty cheap when you think about it.

Oh, by the way, when you compare the cost of operating a nuclear power plant to a gas power plant, it is way cheaper to operate a gas fueled plant, you dont have to cover the cost for dangerous waste products.

The cost for building a gas fueled power plant is a lot less, and for investors this means a faster return.

It is far cheaper to have gas heat, water heater and cooking than it is to have total electric. Trust me I live in a totally electric home.

cuckoldmepls, if you would actually do some research you would not look like such an idiot all the time.

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 12:44:44 PM   
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Can you get agas (or raeburns, whatever) in the 'States? Those solid fuel fired ovens that feed into the heating. Might be a rather victorian solution, but they work brilliantly...

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 12:49:01 PM   
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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 12:55:47 PM   
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For Christ's sake: either buy an aga and a generator, or shut up whining like a schoolgirl. Yes, you have to pay for gas and electricity. How terrible.

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 12:58:37 PM   
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Third, natural gas prices have soared over the past 20 years due to unlimited population growth. People are resorting to electric heaters to save money which are putting an abnormally high demand on power requirements in the winter.




Based on the data I could find, natural gas prices are up about 50% over the last 20 years. This is well below the rate of inflation.


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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 12:59:32 PM   
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For Christ's sake: either buy an aga and a generator, or shut up whining like a schoolgirl. Yes, you have to pay for gas and electricity. How terrible.


We dont have them here.

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 1:29:55 PM   
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Well use that much vaunted yankee ingenuity and build yourself a cooker that doubles as a central heating boiler, then. Hell, if there's a gap in the market, maybe you could start selling the fucking things.

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RE: Obama’s Blocking Of New Power Plants Triggers Nat... - 2/4/2011 1:33:10 PM   
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