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MsMacComb -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 6:16:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji You know what has killed the "values of BDSM"? Posts in an internet forum that bitch and whine about how posts in an internet forum have killed the values of BDSM. Don't like it, don't use it. Unfortunately, this wasn't an ALL INTERNET PEOPLE ARE FAKE post, otherwise I could have had fun. Yours, benji Actually it may well be the people that reply to a persons message about what killed values implying that those people are bitching and whining, while bitching and whining about the person that posted the original message. Same rule applies, don't like, don't use it. And then over to me, back to you, then around once again. Oh by the way, I just wanted to mention that actually its 99% of ALL INTERNET PEOPLE THAT ARE FAKE,, not 100%. [:(]

gooddogbenji -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 6:28:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsMacComb Actually it may well be the people that reply to a persons message about what killed values implying that those people are bitching and whining, while bitching and whining about the person that posted the original message. Same rule applies, don't like, don't use it. And then over to me, back to you, then around once again. Oh by the way, I just wanted to mention that actually its 99% of ALL INTERNET PEOPLE THAT ARE FAKE,, not 100%. [:(] Ms MacComb, Please, understand me properly. I'm not bitching about these people. It's not I don't like it. I do! If you take time, energy, and an excel spreadsheet (which I doubt you will), and input all of my posts to date, then categorize them, I'm sure you'll find 75 % are in reply to someone who bitches about something, or makes a sweeping generalization. 24 % are in either derailed threads, or in an active attempt to derail it, and 1 % are actual serious posts. These people keep me going! I take this forum as seriously as I do life, and, well, that's not all that serious. I think a lot of people say smart things, I don't. I publicize my idiocy, and hope I don't get banned. But I do want to bitch about how I bitched about a guy who was bitching, then got bitched out for it, making me post another bitch about the person who bitched about my bitching about bitching. Yours, benji

MsMacComb -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 6:34:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji I'm not bitching about these people. If you take time, energy, and an excel spreadsheet (which I doubt you will), and input all of my posts to date, then categorize them, I'm sure you'll find 75 % are in reply to someone who bitches about something, or makes a sweeping generalization. 24 % are in either derailed threads, or in an active attempt to derail it, and 1 % are actual serious posts. But I do want to bitch about how I bitched about a guy who was bitching, then got bitched out for it, making me post another bitch about the person who bitched about my bitching about bitching. Yours, benji First off the only type of "spread sheet" I know about are when you spread-em on the sheets. And yes I have had some lovers that "excel" at it. (Bah-dum-dum) Secondly based off what you just stated can one surmize that you are in a sense a "bitch"?[:)]

gooddogbenji -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 6:37:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsMacComb Secondly based off what you just stated can one surmize that you are in a sense a "bitch"?[:)] I WISH!!!! Yours? benji

Lordandmaster -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 6:50:30 PM)
Oh yesses I agrees. Theses rules was always very much foremostest back in the days before the internetses. Nowadays everyones just a posers. quote: ORIGINAL: SirAndGentleman But I can also see that for a few who understand theses rules BDSM and the Internet could be a good thing so lets debate all the issues.

MsMacComb -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 7:00:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji I WISH!!!! Yours? benji Thanks for the offer but I kind of have my hands full right now. Your a bit far away, a bit of the wrong gender. I have one male sub, my cuckold husband and no need for another. Other than that its a nice little "stable of bitches", lol. But there again, I can't handle any more. By the way, whats wrong with good old fashioned Couvasier?

gooddogbenji -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 7:03:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MsMacComb By the way, whats wrong with good old fashioned Couvasier? Nothing's wrong with Courvoisier, but my car runs a bit more efficiently on gasoline. Actually, I like Courvoisier as well, I just prefer Remy Martin. Yours, benji

MistressImp -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 7:15:26 PM)
I'll sum my two cents up like this.... I'm fairly new to the whole cyber lifestyle world...which translates to...I've been sifting thru websites here and there on it for about three years now, and very new to this whole specific sites dedicated to bring people in the lifestyle together.... And my two cents is..... Sometimes I recieve messages on here.... and read posts on the boards that make me... laugh... scratch my head.... roll my eyes... want to know more about whats going on.......But....Then I can say that I've done and still do the same thing at past and present "real life" functions over what people have done... heard, or spouted off about....Is the lifestyle better or worse because of the internet.... naw... but I do think it gives me the opportunity to ..... laugh.... scratch my head... roll my eyes....and become interested in knowing more about whats going on.

Lordandmaster -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 7:42:57 PM)
VSOP or XO? quote: ORIGINAL: gooddogbenji Nothing's wrong with Courvoisier, but my car runs a bit more efficiently on gasoline.

gooddogbenji -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 7:53:41 PM)
XO! Do you think I'd abuse my car by putting some plonk in? Yours, benji

ownedgirlie -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 8:06:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross quote: ORIGINAL: MsMacComb Nice work on proving the guys point. Yup, we all know I'm just the most disrespectful, rude, ignorant, closed minded, lying player around. Had to laugh. Thought your original point was rather clever, actually, and the one who commented on it simply didn't get it. btw the bunny makes me crave sugar for some reason.

badpaliden -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 8:11:09 PM)
Hmm nope the internet hasn't "killed" anything.. I was there in the Old Days.. And it was not so much fun as today, what with the munches and all that we now have,thanks to the internet. People stayed with in there own known groupof people. Usual some one knew some one, and they put you in touch with them so...We "learned" our ways from some one who would take us under their wing so to say , and we put up with a lot of BS from quite a few. (You could'nt play if you didnt know anyone, and you had to really hunt to find some one out there) BUT... We also had as many as well who taught honor and were thoughtful. Some of us carried it over , or were not going to carry over the bad we'ed seen. It used to be you took what you got , cause there wasnt anything else! .. NOW..lol, you have the world at your fingertips! We have been able to come out of little bars and houses and tiny clubs and be a small part of something bigger. We are able to have a Voice now. I sometimes wonder if Goth didnt grow out of the internet from us all comming out on it.. As I'm a bit past the age to understand that , some one closer to it might be able to answer. As to killing the Values of BDSM.. I dont think so.. truth is still truth and honor is still a personal thing, you either have it or you dont.We cant show our honor but thru how we deal with each other via online actions. As to the rants about players and all the phonies we put up with.. I now say Hoorah! At least we have sooo many people to hunt thru! Not like the "old days" at all.

spankmepink11 -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 8:24:21 PM)
I think it's a combination of the general decline of society....and the fact... that as a previous post stated...the fact that the internet exposes us to such a large number of people...the ratio is bound to be increased. No offense to anyone....there are happily many exceptions. Of course...only being active for 5 or 6 years myself....i don't have experience of the "bad old good days"? to draw from.

lordbaltizar -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 8:26:39 PM)
The good the bad and the ugly nothing changes except the forum in which it is seen ,the internet is no different then the pen and paper except like a few have stated here a person can hide and pretend easier then face to face.Our values are our values our world has expanded into our homes and slapped us in the face with its intensity that some didnt realize was there,my perception is tainted by what has happened to me personally on the net but face it ,its here to stay so as the song goes by the eagles.GET OVER IT.~l.b.~

Arpig -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 8:53:37 PM)
No..your true values are true to you and to nobody else....

Dustyn -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 9:14:16 PM)
Yeah, and litigation can lead to new, and better, laws protecting our rights, as opposed to the illegal, and unwarranted, incarceration as could happen in time past. Don't know about you, but I REALLY don't want to get thrown in the looney bin for an unspecified length of time, against my will, just because I put a couple of bruises on someone's ass, if it's all teh same to you. I mean, really, at least in court, you have the chance to defend yourself these days. - Dustyn quote: ORIGINAL: MsMacCom Dustyn, If you follow the news "we" are more at risk and our lifestyle in jeopardy than in recent history. The Bush administration (AKA fundie central) has not been kind to alternative lifestyles, freedom of speech or our constitution. There are a plethora of cases in front of the courts even as we speak.

YoungSub22 -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 9:30:47 PM)
Welcome Sir and congratulations on finally caving to online BDSM.

JohnWarren -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 10:04:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Dustyn Yeah, and litigation can lead to new, and better, laws protecting our rights, as opposed to the illegal, and unwarranted, incarceration as could happen in time past. Don't know about you, but I REALLY don't want to get thrown in the looney bin for an unspecified length of time, against my will, just because I put a couple of bruises on someone's ass, if it's all teh same to you. I mean, really, at least in court, you have the chance to defend yourself these days. Or they could find us even more outside the law than we are now. "Moral" legislation is all the rage now. As the crew in Attleboro but it "When wooden spoons are outlawed, only outlaws will have wooden spoons."

subtlesubie -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 10:24:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: darq I dont think you can blame the deterioration of values solely on the internet. Lets face it, BDSM is not the only aspect of our lives that comes with its own set of values. These days, having values, morals, scruples ... Is just not considered cool by the great majority of human beings. (I'm mostly talking about people who live in the US and other similarly developed countries.) The internet has made access to things like BDSM more readily available and I'm sure that it was contributed at least a little. However, we've been on a downhill slide for several decades now. I think the blame lies on the people involved ... Those who treat anything involving responsibility as a game and those who allow it to continue. That means myself as well ... I carry part of the blame. So do you ... I blame you entirely!!

Phoenixandnika -> RE: Has the Internet killed the True values of BDSM (5/3/2006 10:27:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subtlesubie quote: ORIGINAL: darq I dont think you can blame the deterioration of values solely on the internet. Lets face it, BDSM is not the only aspect of our lives that comes with its own set of values. These days, having values, morals, scruples ... Is just not considered cool by the great majority of human beings. (I'm mostly talking about people who live in the US and other similarly developed countries.) The internet has made access to things like BDSM more readily available and I'm sure that it was contributed at least a little. However, we've been on a downhill slide for several decades now. I think the blame lies on the people involved ... Those who treat anything involving responsibility as a game and those who allow it to continue. That means myself as well ... I carry part of the blame. So do you ... I blame you entirely!! My guinea pig made me do it! Phoenix's Nika

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