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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 12:33:07 AM   
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The whole do as I say thing works great most days except when the other person doesn't dig what's being said.




Actually.. that's when it works best.





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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 12:43:22 AM   
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The whole do as I say thing works great most days except when the other person doesn't dig what's being said.




Actually.. that's when it works best.



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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 4:07:42 AM   
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The whole do as I say thing works great most days except when the other person doesn't dig what's being said.




Actually.. that's when it works best.



Exactly!

I know I am going to come across as a broken record but I seriously do not understand the concept of, getting into a POWER EXCHANGE relationship then, every god damned time the one that conceded power does not agree with/like a decision that the person they conceded power to, makes.......they try to remove that power. Then proceed to wrap it all up in a bunch of pretty, I've got a brain, I am a strong woman/man, yada yada yada, WORDS! It literally boggles the mind. If you're so fucking smart and strong, pick better people to concede power to then. Otherwise STFU.

Then, all to often, the people that do the very above, you will find waxing poetic about their ideal D/M type. Usually using words like powerful, strong, smarter than me (that one slays me given what I've written in the above paragraph) yada yada yada. Which all leads me to think....."They don't want a dominant/master/mistress. They want a fucking actor!" A Doormat Dom!

It all ends up looking like one big game. A game of play acting just to get their rocks off and no real power exchange at all. And that really is one area where labels and words do really matter to ME. Because it really is, or it just IS NOT.

< Message edited by LaTigresse -- 2/10/2011 4:11:22 AM >

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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 4:22:21 AM   
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Then, all to often, the people that do the very above, you will find waxing poetic about their ideal D/M type. Usually using words like powerful, strong, smarter than me (that one slays me given what I've written in the above paragraph) yada yada yada. Which all leads me to think....."They don't want a dominant/master/mistress. They want a fucking actor!" A Doormat Dom!

It all ends up looking like one big game. A game of play acting just to get their rocks off and no real power exchange at all. And that really is one area where labels and words do really matter to ME. Because it really is, or it just IS NOT.


QFT.

To add, this is why we like to flesh out our lovely little toys before we start moving into more serious play. A very few times have I found myself with whip in hand, and before leather touches skin the safe-word (which is always avocado, mind you) comes out. After a while you learn to differentiate between those that get chills thinking about your gloved hands around their throat, and those that will blush in embarrassment at the thought.

(I'm not saying either is bad, but knowing the difference is important if you're in charge.)

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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 6:07:20 AM   
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I seriously don't get what you wrote. I was agreeing with you, and you seemed to take that as a negative and then make it personal about what you would do with me. You obviously, did not understand what I said and you chose once again to be a douchebag.

I will refrain from every agreeing with you again, not that it happens more than once in a blue moon.

It would be best if you didn't reply to me at all..I believe in the not too distant past you've actually stated that you wouldn't..anyway..I don't buy your wounded bird routine..I never do.

Just thinking here:
As for Troll blocking me..What a show this guy is putting on for the ladies..I suppose he's figured out the "Bees with honey" thing finally. No Matter. It's not like we've had a close relationship or anything...For that matter..I don't think we've said more than a couple of things to one another. I suppose though I somehow should feel slighted by grandiose displays of dismissal but I just can't muster the sorrow.

You're welcome to follow his lead.


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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 6:09:35 AM   
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Exactly!

I know I am going to come across as a broken record but I seriously do not understand the concept of, getting into a POWER EXCHANGE relationship then, every god damned time the one that conceded power does not agree with/like a decision that the person they conceded power to, makes.......they try to remove that power. Then proceed to wrap it all up in a bunch of pretty, I've got a brain, I am a strong woman/man, yada yada yada, WORDS! It literally boggles the mind. If you're so fucking smart and strong, pick better people to concede power to then. Otherwise STFU.

This is what I meant by the post that sent red into the wounded bird aghast blink blink I would never bit.

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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 7:18:56 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I know I am going to come across as a broken record but I seriously do not understand the concept of, getting into a POWER EXCHANGE relationship then, every god damned time the one that conceded power does not agree with/like a decision that the person they conceded power to, makes.......they try to remove that power. Then proceed to wrap it all up in a bunch of pretty, I've got a brain, I am a strong woman/man, yada yada yada, WORDS! It literally boggles the mind. If you're so fucking smart and strong, pick better people to concede power to then. Otherwise STFU.

Then, all to often, the people that do the very above, you will find waxing poetic about their ideal D/M type. Usually using words like powerful, strong, smarter than me (that one slays me given what I've written in the above paragraph) yada yada yada. Which all leads me to think....."They don't want a dominant/master/mistress. They want a fucking actor!" A Doormat Dom!

It all ends up looking like one big game. A game of play acting just to get their rocks off and no real power exchange at all. And that really is one area where labels and words do really matter to ME. Because it really is, or it just IS NOT.


I couldn't agree with you more. Most submissive websites and such are written with this perspective (at least from what i've seen of them. the only sub-only site i participate in isn't and it was a difficult find. =p haha)
the "strong woman" stuff is very often a way to justify that, and it irritates me because it sets up this false reality where subs who DO want to submit and subs who DO want to follow (even to places that aren't convenient or "hot") are somehow weak, brainless, or boring.
part of the justification that a lot of people offer for brattiness, for instance, is "my Dom wants me to stay the strong, thoughtful, opinionated person i am. besides, being meek and quiet all the time is boring!"
okay, who says that being submissive and being opinionated are inherently mutually exclusive? no one! =p and who says that those who do submit are meek and quiet? no one. =p
but it's false justification like that that makes inappropriate behavior "acceptable" or that lets people excuse themselves from a lack of even trying to submit in an honest way, while still being able to call themselves submissive.

note: i'm not trying to get into a "twue" vs non-twue debate, and i also mean no offense to anyone who uses bratting in a consensual way in their relationships. but i'm sure we all know the types who boast about being "untameable" and basically issue challenges like "are you man enough to control me?"
after a while, the onus is on you to work on yourself.
power exchange isn't always about what you want, at least not in the small details.

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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 7:25:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


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The whole do as I say thing works great most days except when the other person doesn't dig what's being said.




Actually.. that's when it works best.



Exactly!

I know I am going to come across as a broken record but I seriously do not understand the concept of, getting into a POWER EXCHANGE relationship then, every god damned time the one that conceded power does not agree with/like a decision that the person they conceded power to, makes.......they try to remove that power. Then proceed to wrap it all up in a bunch of pretty, I've got a brain, I am a strong woman/man, yada yada yada, WORDS! It literally boggles the mind. If you're so fucking smart and strong, pick better people to concede power to then. Otherwise STFU.

Then, all to often, the people that do the very above, you will find waxing poetic about their ideal D/M type. Usually using words like powerful, strong, smarter than me (that one slays me given what I've written in the above paragraph) yada yada yada. Which all leads me to think....."They don't want a dominant/master/mistress. They want a fucking actor!" A Doormat Dom!

It all ends up looking like one big game. A game of play acting just to get their rocks off and no real power exchange at all. And that really is one area where labels and words do really matter to ME. Because it really is, or it just IS NOT.

This is just...so...right. Damn lady, if I get up your way this summer, I am definitely taking whatever detour it takes so that we can have a meal and conversation. ~ponders the dangers of falling in love with a gay female dominant when you are a heterosexual male dominant~

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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 7:40:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Make it a Wednesday evening and I will take you to my Yoga-lates class with me.

Watching me try to gracefully (note sarcasm...) contort my fat ass into various yoga and pilates moves will immediately remove any possibility of love or lust.


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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 7:44:09 AM   
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Make it a Wednesday evening and I will take you to my Yoga-lates class with me.

Watching me try to gracefully (note sarcasm...) contort my fat ass into various yoga and pilates moves will immediately remove any possibility of love or lust.


I most likely won't ever love you but I sure as hell love some of the things you say lol


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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 7:49:26 AM   
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The girl smiled and graciously accepted the gift, because I said so.
The girl cleaned the house spotless because I said so.
The girl washed and waxed the car because I said so.
The girl rested on the couch while I cooked dinner, because I said so.
The girl bathed and shaved me,  because I said so.
The girl curled up in bed and I kissed her most the night... she did this, accepted this and loved this... because I said so.



Seems I'm late to the party here, but here's my 2 cents:

It was much "easier" (for lack of a better word) for me to do all the hard crap "because he said so", because I had preconceived notions in my mind that that's what I should be doing.

But in this relationship, the really hard part was accepting the cool stuff he wants to do for me.  Opening my door?  Carrying the groceries in?  Taking the garbage out?  Massaging my feet when they were in pain? 

Yeah., that all made me squirm, and took me a little while to understand that by just accepting what he wanted to give, he was getting exactly what he wanted out of me.


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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 7:54:47 AM   
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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 7:56:47 AM   
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(sighs) I'm a really horrible submissive. I have absolutely no angst at all when a dominant does dishes or cooks or gives me gifts, so long as he is doing it because he wants to do it and not because I dropped the ball.

It's okay..I'm sure everyone here will be more than willing to look past that.


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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 8:01:52 AM   
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(sighs) I'm a really horrible submissive. I have absolutely no angst at all when a dominant does dishes or cooks or gives me gifts, so long as he is doing it because he wants to do it and not because I dropped the ball.

It's okay..I'm sure everyone here will be more than willing to look past that.



I can only hope

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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/10/2011 8:21:19 AM   
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I can only hope

Enjoy.


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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/13/2011 7:45:36 AM   
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But in this relationship, the really hard part was accepting the cool stuff he wants to do for me.  Opening my door?  Carrying the groceries in?  Taking the garbage out?  Massaging my feet when they were in pain? 

Yeah., that all made me squirm, and took me a little while to understand that by just accepting what he wanted to give, he was getting exactly what he wanted out of me.



I know, doing the sitting and watching was wayyy harder than the stuff you'd think I'd have to struggle with.

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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/13/2011 8:20:56 AM   
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Too many, as seen by some of the drama queens on the forums, immediately envision the worst case scenario of 'because I said so' or 'it's my way or the highway'.

When I see the drama queens post their drama over those phrases I wonder to myself......."Are you really THAT BAD at choosing your significant other/s that you immediately assume the worst???"

If an s type cannot do a good job in choosing a person to submit to, perhaps they need to think twice about entering a power exchange relationship in the first place. Rather than trying to diminish the dominant partner's power after the fact.



What a wonderful post to read first thing on a Sunday morning. That's awesome

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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/13/2011 8:22:45 AM   
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Indeed and I also love to cook......just not as fond of the clean up part...




Hey..... I love to eat... I think we are a match... and will well I have two girls to clean cause I said so....

sooooooooo... when you coming to cook me a fantastic meal?????

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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/13/2011 8:24:35 AM   
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Watching me try to gracefully (note sarcasm...) contort my fat ass into various yoga and pilates moves will immediately remove any possibility of love or lust.




you obviously don't appreciate the depravities that my love and lust go to...

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RE: Because I say so!! - 2/13/2011 8:28:54 AM   
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The whole do as I say thing works great most days except when the other person doesn't dig what's being said.




Actually.. that's when it works best.


In our house as well.

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