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ORIGINAL: Icarys

This is going to sound funny logically as well but I'd lie to my family to protect them on occasion way before I'd lie to a stranger. It's because I don't care about what the stranger feels about what I've said as much.

On the flip side: I'd tell the truth despite how I thought it would be felt to a woman that I loved before I would a family member...Likely. Figure that one out.

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

If even small lies surface - say, embellishing or downplaying something, in order to manipulate my way of thinking or frame of mind (this could be as simple as premature compliments), I am going to question everything as a result.  It's just how I think.  I am very analytical and things need to make logical sense to me in my mind.

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I think, with me, it's because I was lied to so much and about so many things for so many years....that in retrospect I realized I wasn't the victim of other people's lies, but of lying to myself, by choosing to believe them when my inner voice nagged otherwise.

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ORIGINAL: lally2

ok, so if you said to me 'i rarely lie' id be thinking, 'oh so he admits he does lie then, even if its rarely'  [:)] - that would make me blink a bit.

the falsehood of 'i never lie' is transparent enough if you understand that falsehood.  i could say 'i never lie, when it matters ill tell the truth, ill be as truthful as i can be though sometimes i might be diplomatic in the words i choose'. its saying what they already know because they do that too, everyone does that.

it is a falsehood and id agree that largely its a dumb thing to write on a board full of people who will wish to tear that to bits semantically because the statement in of itself is rubbish and we all know it is.  but we also know that in our hearts we wish to never have to lie to anyone (unless its necessary that we do) - thats the unspoken disclaimer id hear.

maybe part of that is wanting to believe they hold a high standard and that is their standard and to dip below that standard is not something they would willingly do.  the moment you drop that standard, semantically, you drop the value of the standard you keep youreself to.

all im saying is that no one doesnt lie but i would think that most of us know the value of honesty over dishonesty and that dishonesty does us no good in the end.  therefore to take a high standard and make that a statement is raising the bar and then you have to stand by it.  if you dont you have no right to make that statement and you are a big fat liar for saying it.  until then you are simply taking a high position on fat LIES.  whilst fibs, diplomacy, hedging, dodging and otherwise sparing peoples feelings are sometimes necessary [:D]