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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/15/2011 8:02:50 PM   
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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/15/2011 8:13:12 PM   
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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 3:29:56 AM   
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I was to sick to go. I asked about reschedualing and she has not called back yet.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 3:33:43 AM   
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I was to sick to go to the volunteer orientation, it's been 3 days an I haven't heard back from them either bout when the next orientation is either.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 5:39:23 AM   
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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 6:26:44 AM   
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I was to sick to go to the volunteer orientation, it's been 3 days an I haven't heard back from them either bout when the next orientation is either.


Topping don't take this the wrong way, but as someone that owns a business, if a prospective employee can't manage to get it together to come to an interview, I am not going to be calling them to make it up. Especially in this economy. I know you didn't feel well, but honestly I would have pumped myself full of vitamins, cold meds, chicken soup, whatever, gone to bed super early, woken up early, downed some dayquil and some caffeine, taken a hot shower, and faced the day. 

I can't tell you how many times I have had meetings with clients and felt like shit. You just deal. If you want something badly enough, you just psych yourself into it, and do it.

If someone wants to work for me and they call in sick for the interview, I don't give them another chance. Sorry but all I can think is how often are they going to do that as an employee if they can't even get their shit together for the most important part of the process?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say most of us go to work when sick, because we don't have a choice. I hope you really are taking this seriously, I  think having a job will really really do so much for getting your life on the right track.


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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 6:51:49 AM   
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Topping don't take this the wrong way, but as someone that owns a business, if a prospective employee can't manage to get it together to come to an interview, I am not going to be calling them to make it up. Especially in this economy. I know you didn't feel well, but honestly I would have pumped myself full of vitamins, cold meds, chicken soup, whatever, gone to bed super early, woken up early, downed some dayquil and some caffeine, taken a hot shower, and faced the day. 


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Don't mistake the "volunteer" orientation for actually being volunteer.  They will be watching to see who makes the effort and it will be noted.  Don't show up and they won't expect you to show up for work either.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 7:02:03 AM   
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Thanks guys, I really didn't want to come off as mean, but I bet we get 2 to 3 calls daily in my little town with qualified people desperately seeking work, and with spring around the corner we are hiring and it's a great labor pool to pick from right now so the ones that really shine will get the positions.

Hey it's the same for us, we have to really go the extra mile to get awarded the projects to begin with so every time I meet with an architect or a client I am in effect having a job interview as well, and it would take the black plague to keep me from meeting with someone that has the power to give me a project, which pays my bills and my employees.  If I have to go home and crash and burn, fine, but I'm going to make those meetings if it kills me. 

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 7:58:06 AM   
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If someone wants to work for me and they call in sick for the interview, I don't give them another chance. Sorry but all I can think is how often are they going to do that as an employee if they can't even get their shit together for the most important part of the process?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say most of us go to work when sick, because we don't have a choice. I hope you really are taking this seriously, I  think having a job will really really do so much for getting your life on the right track.



I agree with this.  It sucks being sick, but it sucks even more to be out of work.  I had a friend who went to an interview with a fever and just terribly sick. She apologized when she arrived, and suggested she could come back if they were uncomfortable being in the room with her, but that she didn't want to call in sick for the interview, since it was important to her.  They were appreciative and impressed.  Now she's going on her third year of working there.

I do hope you feel better, but Aynne is right - having a job will do wonders for you.  It may be this particular door is closed to you now, but when the next one opens, charge through it!


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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 8:11:58 AM   
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It doesn't really matter that this one place may not work out. What does matter is that you're looking and actively seeking. If not this one, maybe the next. Just keep at it.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 12:10:30 PM   
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Yes ,I take it the wrong way.



I didn't just "feel like shit", I couldn't breath, I was burning up, I didn't run an actual fever but my whole body was just hot an sweaty and red, I amSTILL burning up, and getting headaches an   I was coughing and sneezing and I was hacking green shit out of my nose and my throat, every 4 or 5 minutes, maybe more, but in one 5 minute period I had to blow my nose 5 times, and hock a big old giant green loogie 3 times. I have a massive ear ache, on a scale of 1 to 10 it's a 10,  it wakes me up every morning about 3 just aching to beat the band.,  I had a sore throat, couldn't hardly talk and couldn't hardly  hear from all the congestion an mucus an shit backed into my ears from my cold, .  I have a fucking viral sinus infection that is making it feel like I am punched in the face with a hammer. I hadn't slept  normally in about 4 or 5 days, there was 2 days with in a period of time I got no sleep for a full 8 hours/..I had to go to the dr twice for it. My dr wanted me on bed rest, So it wasn't just "didn't feel good"


I feel it'd be far, FAR more unprofessional to go in probably contagious as hell and sneeze and cough and hack and interupt them every 5 minutes to blow my fog horn nose,  and not be able to hear them or talk to them properly, spread germs all over  all over them and share my cold with them.

If more people stayed home when they were sick then I probably wouldn't of gotten my cold, and Daddies  brother, and his two children  wouldn't be wiped out with a cold 4 times already this year.  David can't afford to stay home, so he's going to work sick as a  god an spreading it to others, Daddy w/ill probably becoming down sick soon too, he's already got my sore throat.


It's this concept of suck it up and go out when you're sick that spreads shit an germs an yuck an crap and infects a bunch o people, that if you'd just stayed your sick ass home, you wouldn't of done and I wouldn't of gotten your sucking sickness. As I did with one lady who thought a bdsm event was soooooooooooooooooooo important she had to come out even though she had a nasty case of the flu, and then gave 3 other people me included her sickness.


If potential employees couldn't respect when someone was to sick they shouldn't be coming out an infecting every one with their germs, and even a dr told them stay home an get bed rest if you can I would honestly employ very violent fantasies of  sneezeing  in their face, cough all over everything in their office  in the mean time of hacking a huge giant green thick ball of bright green phlem , and give them a lil taste of my cold an then say fuck you.

Now that's a little violent but you hit a nerve.  People not staying home an spreading their fucking germs all over god and creation, is a sore spot w/ith me,  because that's why Daddy is alwys coming home sick 3 or 4 times a year, and then makes me sick. Because we don't have any way to do quarentine living in a basic 1 room garage. So anything he has he promptly gives me. If he was to contact strep and or something super serrious ,he couldn't afford to get treated he'd have to go to the ER, and they'd have to try to bill us later, for money we didn't have.


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Topping don't take this the wrong way, but as someone that owns a business, if a prospective employee can't manage to get it together to come to an interview, I am not going to be calling them to make it up. Especially in this economy. I know you didn't feel well, but honestly I would have pumped myself full of vitamins, cold meds, chicken soup, whatever, gone to bed super early, woken up early, downed some dayquil and some caffeine, taken a hot shower, and faced the day. 

I can't tell you how many times I have had meetings with clients and felt like shit. You just deal. If you want something badly enough, you just psych yourself into it, and do it.

If someone wants to work for me and they call in sick for the interview, I don't give them another chance. Sorry but all I can think is how often are they going to do that as an employee if they can't even get their shit together for the most important part of the process?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say most of us go to work when sick, because we don't have a choice. I hope you really are taking this seriously, I  think having a job will really really do so much for getting your life on the right track.



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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 12:23:33 PM   
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It wouldn't help me get on track, it'd screw everything up. Sure I'd be going out every single day ish, and I'd see other  people other than my parents, but that's it for benifits.


And this job, if I got it would  in all likely hood cost me my SSI I'd make to much to stay on it, I'd  maybe loose my health care if I lost my ssi, because I only have health care because I have SSI, and I couldn't afford the pych meds or the pych appointments or a dr, or any of the other shit I need. I'd loose the diabetic resources, and the weight loss classes, I'd loose everything I can now have if I lost my free insurance.

There's no way with out free insurance I'd be able to afford treatments or pych care or anything,  I have now and I'd be in the same boat as James, Fucked up in the head, fucked up in the body, and unable to pay for the meds I need to stay sane, and unable to pay for pych treatment. He's mentally ill, can't afford his meds, can't get any public assistance because he works, and has for most of his life,  can't afford a dr, and can't afford health care.

Make that the same situation for me, and you'll have two mentally ill people,  in the same family, who has no meds, no dr, and no option if they get sick or have a pychiatric emergency than going to a pych hospital as a suicide watch or something. And then we'd probably loose our jobs at any rate. A situation that didnt have to happen if I didn't get a job in the first place.





Having a job is a serious risk to me. I was willing to rock the boat, loose my ssi, loose my health insurance, and basically shoot myself in the foot, and possibly loose everything, because I was so excited for this job.,

Knowing how much that was at stake and I could loose going for this job, far more than this job would make up for loosing, means I really wanted it. I wouldn't of called off for a little" not feeling good"

Now you guys may not like what I just said, or might feel I have it to cushy but I have a lot to loose by getting a job, But I was willing to rock my entire world to try for this job. And it hits a very sore nerve to have people who don't realize what a personal loss a job would be for me, and how much worse in ways than better a job would make things for me, tell I hope you were serious about wanting a job it'd help you so much.

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. I hope you really are taking this seriously, I  think having a job will really really do so much for getting your life on the right track.



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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 12:42:48 PM   
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You sign up to volunteer after the orientation.  The orientationt ells you about the place, about the animals, their mission, their goals, an then you fill out an application so your information is on file, and you pick a day to come in. So basically yes, the orientation is signing up to volunteer, if you liked what they said during the orientation and you want to come in.  I've done this 3 times before.  with 3 diff organizations,

And it's silly to say if you don't show up to volunteer they assume you won't show up for work. Volunteering is come as much as you want or as little as you want. If I wanna come one day a month, they're ok with it, if I wanna come 7 days a week everyday they're open they're thrilled with it, they're not judging you, based on if you can come or not.


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Don't mistake the "volunteer" orientation for actually being volunteer.  They will be watching to see who makes the effort and it will be noted.  Don't show up and they won't expect you to show up for work either.



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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 12:46:08 PM   
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If I was an interviwer you would not impress me coming to interview sick and contagious and spreading your germs to me and my office. If I was allowed to I'd deny you the job on the spot for showing up so funky and contagious.

We will have to agree to disagree on the subject wheather or not it's approprite to go out a walking snot an germ factory, . And weather or not future employers would find it appropriate to come to them with a raging sickness and possibly give it to them all.

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I agree with this.  It sucks being sick, but it sucks even more to be out of work.  I had a friend who went to an interview with a fever and just terribly sick. She apologized when she arrived, and suggested she could come back if they were uncomfortable being in the room with her, but that she didn't want to call in sick for the interview, since it was important to her.  They were appreciative and impressed.  Now she's going on her third year of working there.

I do hope you feel better, but Aynne is right - having a job will do wonders for you.  It may be this particular door is closed to you now, but when the next one opens, charge through it!



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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 12:56:09 PM   
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Ok, that got a little pychotic sounding even to me lol. I just get defensive when things are sore spots and people who are unaware of a persons situation try to make judgement calls . It's what I get for putting my life  partially out there though,

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 1:56:21 PM   
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You sign up to volunteer after the orientation.  The orientationt ells you about the place, about the animals, their mission, their goals, an then you fill out an application so your information is on file, and you pick a day to come in. So basically yes, the orientation is signing up to volunteer, if you liked what they said during the orientation and you want to come in.  I've done this 3 times before.  with 3 diff organizations,

And it's silly to say if you don't show up to volunteer they assume you won't show up for work. Volunteering is come as much as you want or as little as you want. If I wanna come one day a month, they're ok with it, if I wanna come 7 days a week everyday they're open they're thrilled with it, they're not judging you, based on if you can come or not.
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Don't mistake the "volunteer" orientation for actually being volunteer.  They will be watching to see who makes the effort and it will be noted.  Don't show up and they won't expect you to show up for work either.




I'm afraid but independent of volunteering or paid work, people want people they can rely on. In my previous job I had some drama where staff in some houses I worked in got pissy about us as we were entitled to cancel shifts up to 4 hours before the shifts start (and some staff waited even right to 20 minutes before shit starts to tell them they won't be coming). IMO some contracted staff outright hated the fact that we could pretty much pick and chose what shifts we were doing and had no need ever to ask for permission to get time off....we could just take time off, if we chose to.

We had every right to decline offered shifts and could not be forced to do shifts which we did not want to do.....but at the same time they were under no obligation to having to offer shifts to us. And thats how I see it with volunteering posts, too...of course they are thrilled if they receive help, but often they already have a fair share of experience with unreliable staff and judge quickly (maybe sometimes too quickly) if someone does not do all to attend an interview.

To get interviews is a privilege in these current climate....they are not so needy that they need to beg staff to come to them.



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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 2:14:29 PM   
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TFB........you are not going to like what I have to say but I am talking to you just as I would one of my kids. If you didn't really want the damned job then just flat out say you really didn't want the job. Saying you were too sick is an excuse.

I have worked, where I do now, since July 2001. I was sick the day I interviewed for the job and I was even more sick my first day of work.

If someone applied for a job here, I pulled their resume out of the big stack I always receive, called them, and they didn't show up for the interview, that would tell me they didn't want the job. Plain and simple. I don't care WHAT their excuse is. And quite honestly, I don't want someone like that working for me.

The reality is......you didn't really want the job.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 2:21:11 PM   
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I was on a 3 day important conference. The whole fucking 3 days I was a walking pharmacy. I had a fever over 102, I couldn't breathe, I could barely open my eyes n had water run through my eyes I couldn't stand the light. My ears were killing me. I was coughing, sneezing the whole package. I couldn't speak because my voice was nonexistent. I was shaking, every single inch of my body hurt, my nose was constantly running but I couldn't suck it up nor blow 'cause my head was so full of shit so I used tissues as a nosesponge. My head was literally nonexistent and as for my body..fuck I could barely walk. I spent every fucking single day out dressed perfect and showed up n kept my head high as much as possible and stay as quiet as I possibly could, why? Because it was EXPECTED to me even if I sometimes wondered if I would actually survive the day.
I have never ever been as sick my whole life and no there's not one inch of exaggeration there. This is what my life was like ALL the 3 frigging days.

When you need it and if you want something bad enough you go with it, and as somebody hiring people? Yes it would tell me A LOT if a person would pull their shit together n try their best, no matter how sick, to show up for an interview. I would give them HUGE credit for it even though they were spreading germs all over the place, after they leave I could open a window and disinfect the place. I would never ever reschedule for a person unless they were hospitalized. There's nothing in my opinion that can be called too sick unless it involves hallucination or hospitalization. That'd be the ONLY reasons, call me mean but that's life and that's the way I see it I'm sorry but you're not getting my sympathy, not that you were asking for it.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 2:24:21 PM   
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I don't know what wording you used when you called about the interview, but for future you might want to consider calling and telling them something along the lines of "I have viral sinus infection which my doctor has advised is still highly contagious. I wanted to advise you of that before coming in for the interview, in case you would prefer to reschedule it."

My workplace would happily reschedule --- our policy is to not want staff coming in when contagious. Other workplaces prefer you show up, regardless of whether you're carrying the plague. This type of phone call allows them to make the decision as to which is appropriate for their business climate, and shows your consideration for their business and personal well-being.

The downside for you would be if they told you to still come in --- in which case, you pack up your tissues and hand-sanitizer, try to clear your nose with a shower or over-the-counter meds, and go down and do your best.

If you don't hear back from them, please don't give up but keep looking! Many workplaces have good health plans that would cover things similar to what you are getting now. The benefits of working could end up being a whole lot more than "getting out" - the satisfaction of earning your own way, the self-pride when you accomplish your goals, the ability to "work your way up" (and maybe get out of that garage!)... Well, you obviously get it since you are out there trying.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 2:35:05 PM   
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I understand totally what folks are saying--typically, I'm a "no excuses if you miss the interview" supervisor.... but as one working within the public health world--someone who comes to my interview at deaths' door, obviously contagious, will not earn our favor either unless they can pull off a good performance of a healthy person for the 1 hour in my office.
I've sent employees home at least twice now for coming to work while they were obviously a risk to others.  (The clinic on my floor often sees clients with TB, HIV, etc. so having sick people around who should be at home truly poses a risk to these patients)

I can say, however, I had a lot of respect for my one colleague--we had a seriously important meeting that couldn't get rescheduled and she needed to be there, and even though I knew she felt horrible, she came to the meeting and you couldn't tell at all--she pulled it off.  Meeting over?  Home she went!  I got subpoenaed to court while I was sick as a dog--you can bet I dragged myself into court....and then back to bed.  I felt a bit hypocritical, but I wasn't about to let a bunch of hooligans get out a community service sentencing because I failed to appear.

If this job doesn't work out, there will be others.  Don't give up.   But I'll second the idea that if you decide you don't want a job, either cancel the interview or call them after. (I often go on interviews even if I don't want the job, to keep my interviewing skills honed)

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