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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 2:55:45 PM   
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I wanted it, I drove my family nuts, they kept trying to point out it's far away, and I'm not going to take you to work, how're you going to get to work, and what about your SSI, and you're sure you want this job, you could loose your SSI, you could loose your health insurance. Daddy didn't want me getting the job, because he said having health care was more precious than a job. I basically told them all I was trying out for it.



but I was sick and not just a mild don't feel good. I've had 5 calls in to speak to a dr by phone, because nothing is working an I keep getting worse, and one treatment they gave me was for a completely wrong ailment, one I didn't have.,and I've gone to the dr for this issue twice, and I'll be going again Friday.  I was in no condition to go anywhere and was told by a dr I needed bed rest, and if you want to believe it's an excuse, that's fine, you were not with me,  you didn't take me to the dr, you aren't here with me the days on end I'm not sleeping well waking up at 3 am  every day with ear aches on a scale of 10 , and not being able to breath despite taking decongestants all day, and becoming irrational, and  being irrational, as my family will testify, then


Maybe you've all been sick as a dog an had no problem spreading your  germs and your crap to other people and are made of tougher stuff than me, But I will never , ever, think it's appropriate or professional to go to a job interview when I hadn't slept very well for 5 days, and was irrational and jumpy and cranky from 5 days of little sleep, burning up  hacking and sneezing an coughing,


I do not think, and I will not ever  think it's appropriate going to a job the way I was. It's completely un professional to go and spread your yuck, and your sickness to every one. I again, if I was an employer would not give the jobt o someone who showed such * in my eyes* unprofessionalism If it wasjust a lil sniffle an a bare hint of a raw throat, or nasal pain, sure I would of sucked up and gone.


quote]ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

TFB........you are not going to like what I have to say but I am talking to you just as I would one of my kids. If you didn't really want the damned job then just flat out say you really didn't want the job. Saying you were too sick is an excuse.

I have worked, where I do now, since July 2001. I was sick the day I interviewed for the job and I was even more sick my first day of work.

If someone applied for a job here, I pulled their resume out of the big stack I always receive, called them, and they didn't show up for the interview, that would tell me they didn't want the job. Plain and simple. I don't care WHAT their excuse is. And quite honestly, I don't want someone like that working for me.

The reality is......you didn't really want the job.
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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 3:01:30 PM   
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Well sure they want reliable people, but calling it off because you're sick an you were told to stay in bed an rest by a dr, doesn't make you unreliable, and if it did in their eyes.
any volunteer organization who's dependant on the people who wish to come help out when precious few people want to help out, that would begrudge you being sick and missing something they hold every month would have god complex issues or something.
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I'm afraid but independent of volunteering or paid work, people want people they can rely on. In my previous job I had some drama where staff in some houses I worked in got pissy about us as we were entitled to cancel shifts up to 4 hours before the shifts start (and some staff waited even right to 20 minutes before shit starts to tell them they won't be coming). IMO some contracted staff outright hated the fact that we could pretty much pick and chose what shifts we were doing and had no need ever to ask for permission to get time off....we could just take time off, if we chose to.

We had every right to decline offered shifts and could not be forced to do shifts which we did not want to do.....but at the same time they were under no obligation to having to offer shifts to us. And thats how I see it with volunteering posts, too...of course they are thrilled if they receive help, but often they already have a fair share of experience with unreliable staff and judge quickly (maybe sometimes too quickly) if someone does not do all to attend an interview.

To get interviews is a privilege in these current climate....they are not so needy that they need to beg staff to come to them.




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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 3:51:15 PM   
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I was to sick to go. I asked about reschedualing and she has not called back yet.


Once you start feeling better, you need to call them. You also need to call the animal rescue volunteer place. Ask for another interview, or when the orientation is. Do not count on either of these places calling you, even if they say they will. They're looking for the easiest way.

I think it's fabulous that you are sticking "your head out into the world"... even experimenting with job interviews and volunteer training will reap benefits for you in the long term. Along with getting fitter, you'll gain more confidence, even if you can't afford to really take the jobs. Keep at it, girl.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 3:58:59 PM   
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Thank you January. I also checked out good will, and they'll hire people with special needs obviously but their not hiring right now, but I can always turn in a resume, and should they be hireing in the future they'll call.

I fully intend to follow up with every one once I'm not a walking cess pool of yuck.  hopefully that's gonna be really soon.
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I was to sick to go. I asked about reschedualing and she has not called back yet.


Once you start feeling better, you need to call them. You also need to call the animal rescue volunteer place. Ask for another interview, or when the orientation is. Do not count on either of these places calling you, even if they say they will. They're looking for the easiest way.

I think it's fabulous that you are sticking "your head out into the world"... even experimenting with job interviews and volunteer training will reap benefits for you in the long term. Along with getting fitter, you'll gain more confidence, even if you can't afford to really take the jobs. Keep at it, girl.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 4:44:30 PM   
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I'll echo hausboy a bit here.

I reported to work without taking care of a case of bronchitis, had an asthma attack as I arrived, and ended up getting a whole bunch of EMTs/paramedics making a rather expensive house call.  With an equally expensive ER visit.  I have to admit, you get seen real quick when you come in on a stretcher.

Currently I'm taking medication to (intentionally) lower my immune system, so I catch everything flying by.  Respiratory stuff leads straight to bronchitis and asthma.  I prefer that folks who are sick as dogs to stay home. 

I've worked with headaches so bad I couldn't read (because I'd barf), so I'm not exactly a shrinking violet in the workforce.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 5:26:39 PM   
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TFTB, i am not going to decide if this job meant something to you or not, or if having a job means much.  I think it will be GOOD for you.   However, have you called SSI to discuss what needs to be done for you to be able to maintain health insurance if you get a job that pays more than your SSI?  Not to be nosey but what are you getting SSI for?  If you are disabled in someway, isn't there a way to maintain the health insurance without having to collect the money?  I don't know how SSI works at all so i may be thinking not SSI logically when i say that i would think they would be more apt to allow someone to maintain health insurance if they are willing to stop taking the cash.  I mean they would have to pay for BOTH if you maintain the cash, this is actually costing them less.

When did you call the people?  After your interview time, right before it etc?  If you have a doctor willing to give you a written note that he wants you on bedrest, then you call them, explain to them you have a note from the doctor indicating you are contagious and you will bring it in to them the first opportunity when the doctor releases you.

What you don't get is you aren't anyone to these companies, you are a name on a list and they will simply cross you off unless you do something that catches their eye --- something that will keep them from scratching your name off.

i was in your shoes once, while i already had a job this was a wish to switch interview.  I rarely get sick enough to stay home, but my doc gave me a choice, stay my ass home in bed or be admitted.  I wasn't worried about my job but i explained to him about the interview.  He didn't give me a note, he actually called the interviewer and talked with them.  He assured them its usually on the possibility of death that i will miss work but he was aching to admit me into the hospital and if i went to this interview, i would have to miss my first couple days of work because he will put me in the hospital.  And he hopes they understood this as he knew they would hire me.  When i got home i called the interviewer and asked if she would like to do an initial phone interview and she was laughing saying they were going to keep their interview time open so i could come in in 4 days.  grins, i got the job of course, but sometimes the unusual makes you stand out in a good way.

It could have also backfired on me.  So it usually can go either way.  I lucked out.  So maybe what you should do is go down there with a note from the doctor (have him be specific and personal towards you in the note), explain that you are very sorry to have missed the interview and ask if there is any possibility for an interview.  GO READY to be interviewed meaning have a copy of your resume, your cover letter you sent them, letters of recommendation and references and dress to impress.  As they will take inventory.  If they say no, leave a copy of all of thee above for their files.  You never know they may say we can have an interview right now.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 6:08:17 PM   
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Oh for fuck sake. I give up. You don't want to work, you have more excuses for it than I can possibly even filter through TFB.

When the system rewards you more for staying home than working, what can I expect? Most of us have to go to work to get checks, insurance, benefits, etc. even while SICK. So, yeah, I guess sitting by the mailbox waiting for it beats having to go to work and earn it. Of course you can spout off about how unprofessional you find it to go in while under the weather, you don't need to work, the rest of us support you, you know, the ones that go in to work sick..

You know, the older I get, I see the point of some of my Republican friends when they constantly remind me of shit like this.

You are a perpetual victim. I wish you luck, but I have little hope.

Edited to add LaT is 100% right, you were making excuses in your first post here that the job had "serious drawbacks" that might make it not worth your while. You didn't want the job, period.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 6:32:09 PM   
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Well, I dunno what SSI is an that crap, but you gotta get your shit together (health and general wellbeing/status) BEFORE you attempt to venture out doing the necessary things everyday people do so you can feel 'necessary'.

You have illnesses, a weight loss and exercise program on the go.  Kill those stones first before jumping into more activities that will pull you from the very VITAL initial two current issues. You are no good to others until you can give at least 80% of your energy towards helping others (employment, volunteering or otherwise). No one even wants a half-ass volunteer.

Get yourself out to conquer the world AFTER you have conquered yourself.  You are far from ready to spread yourself that thin.

*oops this was another fast reply, not intended for Aynne, but obviously for the OP.


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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 6:40:44 PM   
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And this job, if I got it would  in all likely hood cost me my SSI I'd make to much to stay on it, I'd  maybe loose my health care if I lost my ssi, because I only have health care because I have SSI, and I couldn't afford the pych meds or the pych appointments or a dr, or any of the other shit I need. I'd loose the diabetic resources, and the weight loss classes, I'd loose everything I can now have if I lost my free insurance.


My brother is on SSI and can work part-time. Call SSI and find out how much you can earn and still keep your benefits.

It would probably be best for you to ease into the work force anyway.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/16/2011 7:46:21 PM   
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but I was sick and not just a mild don't feel good. I've had 5 calls in to speak to a dr by phone, because nothing is working an I keep getting worse, and one treatment they gave me was for a completely wrong ailment, one I didn't have.,and I've gone to the dr for this issue twice, and I'll be going again Friday. I was in no condition to go anywhere and was told by a dr I needed bed rest


Well see I was going by what you wrote at midnight before the interview (in the Health section, about blowing your nose) that you had a head cold.

We all have different approaches to things.  I think if I were horribly sick and stuck in bed, I would call the company and explain the situation.  I would tell them I would still like to come in and interview, but if they prefer to reschedule then I am open to that, too.  This way it's their call - they get to choose, and I still get my interview.

In any case, I hope you feel better and I hope it works out.


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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/17/2011 4:08:21 AM   
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Exactly.

I just went through other posts and find it interesting that THIS thread is the only mention of being so desperately ill and having doctor's orders to stay home in bed.

TFB.....until you quit lying to yourself and constantly making excuses for yourself......you are going to have more problems than Carter has pills. Personal accountability and taking responsibility for yourself, EVEN WHEN IT SUCKS SWAMP WATER, is the path you need to start looking at. I would bet a month's paycheck you did not have any illness dire enough to endanger you by going to that appointment and that while you felt like shit, it gave you an opening to create an excuse to avoid making the effort. Sorry, but you remind me too much of someone I've known for over 30 years now.......trust me.....you are not fooling me.

If you don't like my words then you had better put them on block now. I will happily cheer you on when you accomplish awesome things like the trip to the gym. and the weight loss. I will even stick up for you when I think you are being bullied, but I will NOT mollycoddle you when you spew bullshit. It's just not going to happen.

P.S. I would venture to say your heartburn has to do with your weight. When I gained weight I began having problems with heartburn. The extra mass (FAT) in the stomach area presses in and up on the stomach.Now my flapper is damaged and unless I have surgery I will always have the problem.

Helpful tips. First get an antacid so you are doing less damage to yourself with the stomach acid. Do NOT eat even close to going to bed or several hours before exercising ( I do this prior to yoga and also take a acid relief tablet) Keep a food journal and note when you have heartburn in that journal. Example, I could eat a pound of good dark chocolate and have no heartburn but give me just a couple M&M's and it's agony agony agonyyyyyyyyyyyyy.Avoid empty carbs like the plague. They are the worst. Also, sleep slightly elevated and/or on your left side.

Most importantly..........keep eating healthy, exercising and losing weight. It gets better.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/17/2011 4:47:04 AM   
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SS Disability has an Incentive to Work program where you can go back to work and keep your medical insurance, and in some cases your SSI benefits as well. Contact the Social Security offices, and get an advocate to help you understand your options. http://www.ssa.gov/disabilityresearch/wi/generalinfo.htm

I think knowing your options might help your confidence in stepping out and transitioning into the work force, which I think would be a GREAT thing for you to do. 1, I think if you can work you should work. 2, I think that working opens up entirely new possibilities for friendships and support. 3, work can do wonders for your self-esteem and provide you with a schedule that helps reinforce positive steps toward bettering yourself. 4, can lead toward independance and self-sufficiency, your own place and the opportunities to cook your OWN healthy meals etc.

Sure, I could go on and on about the benefits of working - but I tend to believe you are on SSI for a reason. The alternative is just to unpleasant and unkind to contemplate. If you are realistically unlikely or unable to sustain work consistently (which I believe is very likely your situation), losing your benefits would not be a wise course of action. So, contact your SS office and talk to them about your desire to try transitioning into the work force. Be VERY careful about what you say exactly. If you tell the Social Security Office that sure, you can work - they can and will make the assumption that you can and SHOULD work and you will be denied SSI.

I hope things work out for you, and you begin to feel better.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/17/2011 2:59:05 PM   
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I've talked to SSI people about working before, they do have right to work programs, but all they say is for every 100 dollars, made they'll take it out of SSI.  Since that job claimed you could make 600 to 800 dollars a week, and it was 8 dollars an hour and the job was 30 hours a week, if I read it right,  that's a pretty big diffrence than 100 dollars a month lol. I will definatly ask about working an keeping my health insurance.Health insurance is very precious, and to many people are going with out it.


Yes, they assessed me and deemed me disabled. obviously, or they wouldn't of given me the ssi.  I only get the health care because I am on SSI. I get medical and medicare , otherwise, no I don't think there is. We could always ask our office though.

I called them Friday, My appointment was Monday. I told them I was to sick to come in, I did not think it was proper to come in and spread my illness around to them, I am sorry and if they were willing to reschedual, I would come in when I wasn't sick.


I don't have a resume or a cover letter or  work referances or anything, and most the jobs I applied for, * and the numbers been small it's been 6. 2 of  jobs I got* Didn't need them. Walmart did want two employers of the past or two people you have volunteered for, it couldn't be family and I don't have that either,  but if I had not missed the volunteer orientation for homeward bound golden retrievers, I'd be building volunteer history with them. I'll still get my chance to, it's not like missed it once I am doomed.


You just  got an appointment to speak to the hiring guy, spoke to him and told him about yourself and why you think you'd be a good fit for the job and you are either hired after that or you're not.

I've worked for Cut Co cutlery I don't remember how I heard about them, but I walked in interviewed walked out with the job,  hadn't worked a day in my life,  then I had  a telemarketer job  I heard about them in the  penny saver, walked in applied walked out with the job. Had only 1 job before, absolutely no work experince, hadn't worked in years. . I applied for a job as an after school program leader, didn't get it, that's ok, we don't always get things we apply for, and I wasn't qualified for the job anyway most likely. I applied to work for Walmart, they never called me back, this would of been my 6th job attempt and or job, , I probably would of gotten the job if I hadn't missed the invterview being sick..  I looked into working atg ood will too, they're known for hiring people with special work force needs,  but they're not hiring either.

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However, have you called SSI to discuss what needs to be done for you to be able to maintain health insurance if you get a job that pays more than your SSI?  Not to be nosey but what are you getting SSI for?  If you are disabled in someway, isn't there a way to maintain the health insurance without having to collect the money?  I don't know how SSI works at all so i may be thinking not SSI logically when i say that i would think they would be more apt to allow someone to maintain health insurance if they are willing to stop taking the cash.  I mean they would have to pay for BOTH if you maintain the cash, this is actually costing them less.

When did you call the people?  After your interview time, right before it etc?  If you have a doctor willing to give you a written note that he wants you on bedrest, then you call them, explain to them you have a note from the doctor indicating you are contagious and you will bring it in to them the first opportunity when the doctor releases you.

GO READY to be interviewed meaning have a copy of your resume, your cover letter you sent them, letters of recommendation and references and dress to impress.  As they will take inventory.  If they say no, leave a copy of all of thee above for their files.  You never know they may say we can have an interview right now.

Good luck, angel



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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/17/2011 3:18:07 PM   
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It could be, Though I have suffered from heart burn on and off since I was a teenager,  I was a skinny teen ager too. For about a year they had me on a prescription I forget the name but it was for heart burn and acid reflux, and then it stopped bothering me, and now it's only occasional, and if I don't eat all day I get indigestion, probably from the stomach acid having nothing to digest or do.

Some nights, left overs  from dinner at his work place trigger some NASTY acid and bloating an gass. I'm  feeling like you're a balloon blown up to full , constant pressure, feeling like ify ou could open an escape hatch all the force of the bloating leaving you would have you flying around with air whooshing out of you like a cartoon charachter,   burping and burping an getting no relief, and then one burp you may burp extra hard or something an it's like Uuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp, and for a moment you feel relief from the sense of bloating, it;s like you can feel all the pressure leaving you on the heels of the Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp,  dry heaving and then vomiting foam or bile , bile sneaking up on you and one minute you're fine sure a lil gassy an not so hot in the tummy, an the next you're spitting bile. I noticed this is triggered  when I finished my dinner from his work place the next night. I ate it both cold and warmed up, So I try not to eat those particular left overs. No sense inviting misery with it.

fortunatly I don't get heart burn as much as I used to.


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P.S. I would venture to say your heartburn has to do with your weight. When I gained weight I began having problems with heartburn. The extra mass (FAT) in the stomach area presses in and up on the stomach.Now my flapper is damaged and unless I have surgery I will always have the problem.

Helpful tips. First get an antacid so you are doing less damage to yourself with the stomach acid. Do NOT eat even close to going to bed or several hours before exercising ( I do this prior to yoga and also take a acid relief tablet) Keep a food journal and note when you have heartburn in that journal. Example, I could eat a pound of good dark chocolate and have no heartburn but give me just a couple M&M's and it's agony agony agonyyyyyyyyyyyyy.Avoid empty carbs like the plague. They are the worst. Also, sleep slightly elevated and/or on your left side.

Most importantly..........keep eating healthy, exercising and losing weight. It gets better.


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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/17/2011 5:51:23 PM   
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TFTB,

So let me get this right -- you rather keep taking money from SSI, rather than make the same amount or be supplemented by SSI for whatever you make less than what you get now in SSI by working for it?  In otherwords, you may not be making anymore money but the money you would have would be a product of having a job which means it would give you a hell of a lot more than just sitting around collecting SSI.  It would allow you to get experience you can put on a resume, it will give you references to put on a resume, it will give you responsibility etc.  So instead of making an honest wage, you are more worried about exchanging money you don't have to work for with money you do.

I don't understand how you understand it works. From what i understand i think that if you made at work $300 in a week and your paycheck for SSI was say 400, that means you would get a check for $100 from SSI that week.  It sounds like it works the same way unemployment does.  Which means that if you make over what you get for SSI, SSI wouldn't send you a check that week.  i honestly don't see any problem with that.  Or are you saying you get $100 a month for SSI, and you are worried about making 600 a WEEK?  As long as they aren't cutting your medical, then i honestly don't see the issue. 

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I called them Friday, My appointment was Monday. I told them I was to sick to come in, I did not think it was proper to come in and spread my illness around to them, I am sorry and if they were willing to reschedual, I would come in when I wasn't sick.


Okay next time you are in such a situation, 1) keep trying until you actually get a person - only leave a message as a last resort.  NEVER say call me if you are still interested because they won't call you.  Say next time that you will call Monday morning to discuss a reschedule when your doctor releases you and you really look forward to discussing the job with them.  Never give them the decision to call you, always be proactive.  

You should put together a resume even with the jobs you have -- it is a good reminder of jobs, dates, people you worked with, references etc.  It doesn't need to be professional but one day someone may say, oh do you have a resume?  That way you have all the information at your fingertips and if you happen to be talking to someone and they mention a job you may be interested in -- you can grap their email and send it to them via email.

Good Luck.  angel

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/18/2011 4:44:28 AM   
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Oh hell no, if I could make more than SSI could pay me at a working job I could do and could get to on my own or mostly on my own easily, and keep my health insurance and everything else I qualify for because of SSI, I'd take the job and let them dock my SSI. Especially if like the job I was looking at you could make up to 1 k a week if you were good at your job. 1 k a week plus commissions is a LOT of money. Even 600 to 800plus any commisions you make a week is a lot.



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TFTB,

So let me get this right -- you rather keep taking money from SSI, rather than make the same amount or be supplemented by SSI for whatever you make less than what you get now in SSI by working for it? 


Good Luck.  angel


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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/18/2011 6:08:14 AM   
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Unfortunately the rules for SSI and SSDI are quite different regarding employment.

My suggestion is to try to go through your state vocational program. They can train you for something appropriate for your abilities at no charge to you and could possibly set you up with a job coach to help ease you into the transition of employment.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/18/2011 6:39:32 AM   
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yes, they might be a good resource.

A friend of mine wanted me to call Alta Regional program, ,they help people get jobs an stuff, and give you a worker, they help you do things like get to the grocery store an find you jobs you can do, find living arrangements you can afford, I guess, ect ect  an I called and they wouldn't work w/ith me. I don't qualify for their program, I have to have some kind of disability like cerebral palsy or be basically be  retarded before they'd work with me, Which I am neither.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/18/2011 7:28:31 AM   
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quote:

have some kind of disability like cerebral palsy or be basically be  retarded before they'd work with me, Which I am neither.


That's completely inappropriate & offensive.

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RE: I got a job interview on monday! - 2/18/2011 8:00:46 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

have some kind of disability like cerebral palsy or be basically be  retarded before they'd work with me, Which I am neither.


That's completely inappropriate & offensive.


Until just a few years ago "mentally retarded" was still the acccepted definition in the state of Massachusetts. Their reason for continuing to use it despite the fact that other states had switched to the term developmentally disabled is that it was a "medical diagnosis".

The term the state of MA uses last I heard was "intellectually disabled".

I understand that the term is offensive but a better tactic is to explain the whys and correct the ignorance instead of giving a blanket response that does not really provide a reason for correcting it.

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