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hlen5 -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 9:01:03 AM)
It's not a matter of upset, it's a matter of fighting fair. I can agree to disagree here.

marshalp -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 9:03:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Republican and conservative philosophy, "If you aint rich, live on social security, depend on help for health care, fuck you and die." In the perfect Republican United States, the people making more than half a million would control the country and everyone else would either be servants, starving to death, or dieing from health problems that could be cured with antibiotics. Sigh... sometimes i wonder wouldn't it be real nice to live in this perfect Republican US... Screw morality [:D] But then those pesky moral conservatives keep poking their flaccid nose in my private things...

flcouple2009 -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 9:07:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: Ever seen the effects of watering down infant formula to make it stretch farther? Well they wouldn't get as much nutrition, but that would be the only problem. I am gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that the issue here is that you really just don't know anything about infant development.

thishereboi -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 9:37:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail high risk of water intoxication for instance. That comes from drinking too much water. Watering down the formula will not cause it unless they drink too much of the watered down formula.

mnottertail -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 9:39:26 AM)
uhhhhhhhhhhhhh.................yeah............ that is an invincible tautology you have created there. how much is too much?

thishereboi -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 9:42:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: Ever seen the effects of watering down infant formula to make it stretch farther? Well they wouldn't get as much nutrition, but that would be the only problem. What? Did you really just say that? More to the point, do you really support that? Do I support watering down formula? No, that would be stupid and harmful to the child. I just don't think that has much to do with water intoxication. That is cause by the infant drinking to much water or any liquid, not the ratio in the bottle.

thishereboi -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 9:43:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hlen5 One doesn't have to have had kids to know not getting enough good food isn't a great idea. Tazzy please tell me this wasn't a passive aggressive slam to one who is childless (no matter how outrageously provoked). It's called twisting meanings and putting words in peoples mouths. Something tazzy excells at.

rulemylife -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 9:47:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: marshalp But then those pesky moral conservatives keep poking their flaccid nose in my private things... I never knew noses could get flaccid. Viagra nose drops?

thishereboi -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 9:48:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail uhhhhhhhhhhhhh.................yeah............ that is an invincible tautology you have created there. how much is too much? Why don't you take a bio class and learn it for yourself. Or you could look it up online. It's not that hard of a concept if you study it hard enough.

mnottertail -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 9:55:17 AM)
LOL, I am sure all the impoverished mothers under discussion here are running out to sign up for bio classes, paid for by further watering down the formula to investigate just that point.

rulemylife -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 9:57:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi It's not that hard of a concept if you study it hard enough. Does this have anything to do with making flaccid noses hard?

angelikaJ -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 10:02:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: Ever seen the effects of watering down infant formula to make it stretch farther? Well they wouldn't get as much nutrition, but that would be the only problem. What? Did you really just say that? More to the point, do you really support that? Do I support watering down formula? No, that would be stupid and harmful to the child. I just don't think that has much to do with water intoxication. That is cause by the infant drinking to much water or any liquid, not the ratio in the bottle. http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/28030635/ns/today-today_health/ "While Snyderman noted that water intoxication is usually associated with athletes, it poses a very real danger for tiny, developing bodies. “What it does is it dilutes your blood; there are two things, sodium and potassium, that just take a nosedive,” she said. Babies can’t typically handle extra water in their diet until they are at least 10 months old..." By adding extra water to the formula you change how the chemistry is in a body that can not handle it. It is not innocuous.

tazzygirl -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 10:05:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hlen5 It's not a matter of upset, it's a matter of fighting fair. I can agree to disagree here. You call me passive agressive, and you worry about fighting fair? Im speaking of life, and you are worried about fighting fair. Simply incredible.

tazzygirl -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 10:08:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: hlen5 One doesn't have to have had kids to know not getting enough good food isn't a great idea. Tazzy please tell me this wasn't a passive aggressive slam to one who is childless (no matter how outrageously provoked). It's called twisting meanings and putting words in peoples mouths. Something tazzy excells at. No one twisted anything. You stated only malnutrition. I quoted a Pediatrician at a well known Hospital saying it can be fatal. Its called knowledge. Something you need to gain before spouting off at the mouth, something YOU excel at.

tazzygirl -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 10:10:02 AM)
quote: I am gonna give you the benefit of the doubt that the issue here is that you really just don't know anything about infant development. Which is the same benefit I was giving her... until she proved what a twit she was about the whole issue.

rulemylife -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 10:11:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/28030635/ns/today-today_health/ "While Snyderman noted that water intoxication is usually associated with athletes, it poses a very real danger for tiny, developing bodies. “What it does is it dilutes your blood; there are two things, sodium and potassium, that just take a nosedive,” she said. Babies can’t typically handle extra water in their diet until they are at least 10 months old..." By adding extra water to the formula you change how the chemistry is in a body that can not handle it. It is not innocuous. I'm sorry, I thought I was on the flaccid nose thread. My mistake.

tazzygirl -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 10:12:00 AM)
quote: That comes from drinking too much water. Watering down the formula will not cause it unless they drink too much of the watered down formula. No. Again, you are terribly wrong. Filling a baby's tummy with too much watered down formula robs them of the need to eat... for short periods of time. They actually eat more because they are missing out on nutrients. Eating more means they get more water than their system can handle. Its called simply biology. Study harder next time.

angelikaJ -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 10:13:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail uhhhhhhhhhhhhh.................yeah............ that is an invincible tautology you have created there. how much is too much? Why don't you take a bio class and learn it for yourself. Or you could look it up online. It's not that hard of a concept if you study it hard enough. You could actually practice what you preach instead of... you know, going on about subjects you know nothing about...? (Something you have just proven that you excell at.) "In this tough economy, many families are cutting corners. The choice a Florida mother recently made to dilute her baby’s formula nearly cost him his life. Local experts fear it’s a growing trend. .... Emergency room doctors say he had water intoxication and that if he had gone one more hour without treatment, he would have died. ..."Too much water can basically lower the sodium content and lower the ratio of other electrolytes in the blood and that can lead to seizures and other problems," said Dr. Seth Septer, pediatric gastroenterologist with Children’s Hospital. It can even be fatal. Children's Hospital has seen a few cases of water intoxication, though none quite as severe as the 5-month-old who recently made headlines. "That's one place to not try to save our money,” said Dr. Septer. “It's very important not to change from the recommended way of making the formula." In the first few months of life, it’s best to avoid any additional water completely. ..." http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/35496879.html

came4U -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 10:13:35 AM)
quote: Babies can’t typically handle extra water in their diet until they are at least 10 months old..." By adding extra water to the formula you change how the chemistry is in a body that can not handle it. I don't even know what is going on in here but... Babies can have water at any time (separate/between feeding), a few ounces here an there, but it is 'suggested' that infants drink water more frequently throughout the day at 6 months+, it aids in digesting thicker foods as well as to be used in illness/fever situations. By adding extra water to formula changes no chemistry. It merely FILLS the child up so he/she won't be getting the proper dosage of nutrients as in the recommended soluble amount of formula. *Water intoxication does not or will not occur in a single or double dose of water, it would have to be an ongoing predicament. Likely it is with pure water (no formula at all) between the feedings which precede it.

flcouple2009 -> RE: Women and children first. (2/25/2011 10:13:42 AM)
This would be like saying you can't get alcohol poisoning as long as your drink is mixed.

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