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thishereboi -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 5:51:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: hlen5 One doesn't have to have had kids to know not getting enough good food isn't a great idea. Tazzy please tell me this wasn't a passive aggressive slam to one who is childless (no matter how outrageously provoked). It's called twisting meanings and putting words in peoples mouths. Something tazzy excells at. No one twisted anything. You stated only malnutrition. I quoted a Pediatrician at a well known Hospital saying it can be fatal. Its called knowledge. Something you need to gain before spouting off at the mouth, something YOU excel at. Water intoxication can be fatal. If you give your kid too much LIQUID of any kind, you can kill him. Adding extra water to the formula will not cause this unless you turn around and give him too much. Now as I mentioned before, it will cut back on the nutrition he gets. What I failed to do was say how awful malnutrition is, but seeing as we are all adults, I assumed most people could figure that part out on their own. I guess I overestimated the intelligence on this board.

thishereboi -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 5:57:33 AM)
quote: Telling me that giving a baby 1 oz of formula and 1 oz of water (the watering down process) cannot lead to anything but nutritional deficiencies is incredibly short-sighted and... frankly.. stupid. Who said that?

tazzygirl -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 5:57:58 AM)
You are so full of shit, you are starting to reek. quote: Adding extra water to the formula will not cause this unless you turn around and give him too much. A baby's tummy can hold only so much liquid. Cutting down in nutrients like sodium, potassium, protein and vitamins will indeed have fatal results. Or didnt they teach you that in biology. How many experts are you going to argue with in order to not have to admit you were wrong?

rulemylife -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:00:01 AM)
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tazzygirl -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:01:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: Telling me that giving a baby 1 oz of formula and 1 oz of water (the watering down process) cannot lead to anything but nutritional deficiencies is incredibly short-sighted and... frankly.. stupid. Who said that? quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: Ever seen the effects of watering down infant formula to make it stretch farther? Well they wouldn't get as much nutrition, but that would be the only problem. You did.

thishereboi -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:01:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl You are so full of shit, you are starting to reek. quote: Adding extra water to the formula will not cause this unless you turn around and give him too much. A baby's tummy can hold only so much liquid. Cutting down in nutrients like sodium, potassium, protein and vitamins will indeed have fatal results. Duh, it's called malnutrition and I covered that already Or didnt they teach you that in biology. How many experts are you going to argue with in order to not have to admit you were wrong? That's right keep on calling me stupid. In your world I am sure that makes you right.

tazzygirl -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:03:22 AM)
It makes many of us right. Check the posts. Im not the only one with that opinion of you.

thishereboi -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:03:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: Telling me that giving a baby 1 oz of formula and 1 oz of water (the watering down process) cannot lead to anything but nutritional deficiencies is incredibly short-sighted and... frankly.. stupid. Who said that? quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: Ever seen the effects of watering down infant formula to make it stretch farther? Well they wouldn't get as much nutrition, but that would be the only problem. You did. No, I said it they wouldn't get the nutrition they needed. You are the one, along with your groupies who decided that meant I didn't understand that malnutrition was bad.

thishereboi -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:06:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl It makes many of us right. Check the posts. Im not the only one with that opinion of you. And I should care about your opinion why? This is getting stupid and boring. You obviously aren't going to understand what I am saying and it's a waste of my time to try and explain. Have a great day and stay away from the water. That shit will kill you.

tazzygirl -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:06:34 AM)
You cant change your words now. You can state whatever you believe you meant at the time. That isnt what you said, as the posts show. Quit backpeddaling. Malnutrition is not the same as water intoxication.

tazzygirl -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:10:48 AM)
~FR Now, to bring this back to the OP. Anyone doubt that infants may die as a result of cuts on Wic and other programs?

Hillwilliam -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:19:13 AM)
http://chemistry.about.com/b/2006/01/17/water-intoxication-babies.htm http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/931669/infant_water_intoxication_babies_and.html?cat=25 http://www.todaysparent.com/baby/foodnutrition/article.jsp?content=1240 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9374582 It looks like diluting formula or giving babies water if they are breast milk fed is a REALLY bad idea from the above. There's about a hundred or so more links but you get the idea. NOTE: I dont have any kids but I DO have an extensive Physiology/Biology/Chemistry background

thishereboi -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:19:42 AM)
quote: Malnutrition is not the same as water intoxication. No it's not, glad to see you figured that out.

tazzygirl -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:22:37 AM)
And what we are talking about is water intoxication as a result of watering down infant formula over an extended period of time, which is what happens when mothers try to stretch out their formula allotment each month. When you figure that out, let us know. Im always encouraged when you have a light bulb moment.

tazzygirl -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:25:52 AM)
Thank you Hill. As i explained to Helen in cmail... you dont have to be a parent to think like one. You dont have to have children to know what is better for one. Some just has to care enough to find out the information before rambling about things someone has no clue about, or doesnt care enough about to discover all potential risks. Someone who doesnt have kids can know a world of information about them. Many who have kids dont know squat. And then we have those who are so wrapped up inside themselves they dont bother to look beyond their own noses.

angelikaJ -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:29:29 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi It's called twisting meanings and putting words in peoples mouths. Something tazzy excells at. No one twisted anything. You stated only malnutrition. I quoted a Pediatrician at a well known Hospital saying it can be fatal. Its called knowledge. Something you need to gain before spouting off at the mouth, something YOU excel at. Water intoxication can be fatal. If you give your kid too much LIQUID of any kind, you can kill him. Adding extra water to the formula will not cause this unless you turn around and give him too much. Now as I mentioned before, it will cut back on the nutrition he gets. What I failed to do was say how awful malnutrition is, but seeing as we are all adults, I assumed most people could figure that part out on their own. I guess I overestimated the intelligence on this board. You already know this even though you refuse to acknowledge it... unless you have a comprehension deficeit. Tazzy is right. Their stomachs only hold so much. (To go back to an earlier post of mine) Infant formula contains electrolytes. You are forgetting about osmosis. If there is more water than there is supposed to be then it will change chemistry; those salts will leave the cells to achieve balance. The electrolytes fall. Your compulsive need to be right is nearly baffling and rather sad.

thishereboi -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:30:49 AM)
quote: Your compulsive need to be right is nearly baffling and rather sad. The same could be said about you and tazzy.

tazzygirl -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:36:10 AM)
In this, we ARE right.

shivermetimbers -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:52:50 AM)
I always shake my head when this thought comes to my mind, and why I sometimes am afraid my picture will be taken as I go to vote at the Republican poll in the primary: You have the folks who insist that every child be born, because they are pro-life, it's murder, etc. That life begins with conception. Okay, I can buy that. What I can't buy is this: Life doesn't END with the birth. You want all them babies being born? You better be willing to feed, educate, clothe, protect and nourish not only them, but the mom also. Just my two pennies.

tazzygirl -> RE: Women and children first. (2/26/2011 6:57:38 AM)
John Stewart made a great point with that. It's like the Republican Congress is saying, "You can't prevent an unwanted child. You can't get care if you do get pregnant, and you can't get any help after the baby is born. But -- for those two minutes when the skull is crowning your baby is the most precious thing on Earth."

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