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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/5/2011 5:58:36 PM   
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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/5/2011 6:05:22 PM   
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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/5/2011 6:18:23 PM   
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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/5/2011 6:37:08 PM   
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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/5/2011 6:43:58 PM   
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If someone sneaks alcohol into a home where it is not allowed, they are not showing "respect" to the homeowner, no matter how discreet they are.




Fair enough, Cali. Shall we call it "minimizing the disrespect" then?

I've been to enough mandatory appearances in the homes of the more religious side of my family, to own flasks in two sizes, along with a high capacity sneak-a-toke.

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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/5/2011 6:46:31 PM   
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If someone sneaks alcohol into a home where it is not allowed, they are not showing "respect" to the homeowner, no matter how discreet they are.




Fair enough, Cali. Shall we call it "minimizing the disrespect" then?

I've been to enough mandatory appearances in the homes of the more religious side of my family, to own flasks in two sizes, along with a high capacity sneak-a-toke.



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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/5/2011 6:49:14 PM   
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As evidenced by the replies above, alcohol clearly stirs strong feelings in those who don't allow it (like you).



I never said I don't allow alcohol.  I said I don't allow CLOWNS.

Some people prefer their guests do not imbibe mood-altering substances in the host's home, regardless of whether that mood-altering substance is legal or not.  Why does that concept seem so difficult to grasp?



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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/5/2011 7:04:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		i grew up with an alcoholic grandfather, to the point where when he said "go pound salt up your ass" to his grandkids our response was "love you too grandpa!"

i prefer not to have alcohol in my home. i do have limited amounts in the fridge on rare occasions. it's something some members of my family enjoy in small amounts, a beer now and then for my dad, one for the ex husband when he visits. but no one will get plastered in my home and no one will be driving immediately after consuming any alcohol. i have suffered with the results of a drunk's bad judgement for thirty years now. stopped at a light on my first car date we were hit so hard we flew a block down the street because the brake lines ruptured. thank god they did or we might have been killed. so i have reasons i live with every day for not wanting to have alcohol consumed in my home in anything more than single servings. having laws that punish people for drivng drunk is stupid? damn i wish you could live in my body for a few days and see the punishment i live with! i think they ought to be shot, but hell, i'm a bit biased on the subject.

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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/5/2011 7:05:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Jaybeee - I understand that you're looking for information ... and wanting to understand why some people do some things ... but really, you're asking questions that are kind of like "why do you like x flavor of ice cream?" - who knows? some people do, some people don't. Personally, I think it's funny on occation to go to bars and watch the drunks act stupid. One of the more amusing nights of my younger-than-25 days was spending the evening at a pub in Germany playing darts with a couple of guys who thought they were "sotally tober" ... During that trip to Germany, I also spent an evening in the company of a group of guys who had just finished their Army service. Talk about WASTED!!! I'm not sure that any of them could go more than 2 steps without staggering. Totally hysterical to watch, because they were all convinced that they were fine.

Do I want that in my house? Hell no. I have enough destruction in my life with 6 dogs and 4 cats in the house. I don't need to add drunken idiocy into the mix. If we have friends coming over and it's appropriate, them bringing alcohol is fine - within reason. As I stated before, bringing a bottle of hard liquor is going to get them raised eyebrows and a request to leave it in the car unless it's been pre-arranged and ok'ed. I'm an adult and I expect my friends to be adults when they are here - and that, to me, doesn't mean acting like a bunch of frat-boys who just hit 21 and have to prove how much they can drink before they pass out. A beer or two is fine, mixed drinks are ok - when they start slamming back shots ... that's when I draw the line. They can do that at their home where I don't have to smell it, or clean up after them.

I can't give you any other reasons for why I don't particularly care for alcohol. I did grow up in a house where there was little to no alcohol - ever. I think my parents still have the bottles of Dessauer beer that one of the exchange students brought back in the mid-90s ... they just don't drink. My brothers both do - some. Both of my sisters-in-law do, some. I have, and still do on rare occation (I'm very picky though). I already mentioned that Holly and rob both drink on occation.

I'm still going to be offended if someone brings a bottle of whiskey to my house without asking me first. I'd like to think that I'm good enough company that people don't need to be drunk to hang out with me.

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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/5/2011 7:10:31 PM   
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i grew up with an alcoholic grandfather, to the point where when he said "go pound salt up your ass" to his grandkids our response was "love you too grandpa!"

i prefer not to have alcohol in my home. i do have limited amounts in the fridge on rare occasions. it's something some members of my family enjoy in small amounts, a beer now and then for my dad, one for the ex husband when he visits. but no one will get plastered in my home and no one will be driving immediately after consuming any alcohol. i have suffered with the results of a drunk's bad judgement for thirty years now. stopped at a light on my first car date we were hit so hard we flew a block down the street because the brake lines ruptured. thank god they did or we might have been killed. so i have reasons i live with every day for not wanting to have alcohol consumed in my home in anything more than single servings. having laws that punish people for drivng drunk is stupid? damn i wish you could live in my body for a few days and see the punishment i live with! i think they ought to be shot, but hell, i'm a bit biased on the subject.


I don't think it was the laws that punish drunk drivers that he thinks is stupid - more the fact that home-owners who allow their guests to drive home drunk can be held responsible for their guests actions if they have an accident is stupid.

However, I'm very sorry that you were injured by a drunk driver. Personally, I think they should be put in front of a firing squad every time they get caught - maybe there is a live round, maybe there are only blanks ... let them sweat it out if they are going to die or not. That's essentially what they are doing to every person on the road every time they get behind the wheel drunk - yeah, they might not kill anyone ... or they might take out an entire family.

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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/5/2011 7:15:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am pretty good at leaving a party before it gets out of hand. I would guess most on this thread would be good too.


People in my life-  -- this is not something I have to do these days...  in my younger days- tho - I often left before all hell broke loose.

At 47- I have no interest in-  putting myself in questionable situations..  I reached a point in my life that I dont have to either.   So yay- for middle aged.  :-)

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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/6/2011 2:05:52 AM   
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As evidenced by the replies above, alcohol clearly stirs strong feelings in those who don't allow it (like you).



I never said I don't allow alcohol.  I said I don't allow CLOWNS.

Some people prefer their guests do not imbibe mood-altering substances in the host's home, regardless of whether that mood-altering substance is legal or not.  Why does that concept seem so difficult to grasp?


Because my guests and I commonly and regularly enjoy these "legal mood-altering substances", as you term them. When I go to a party, or a friend's, the offering of an alcoholic drink is a common courtesy, not a luxury. My teetotal friends ALL carry booze in their house for their guests, and sometimes I'll indulge, sometimes not. Entirely my choice. Their consideration for people of all walks of life is a sign of good breeding and THAT is why they the number and quality of their friend circle is quite high, indeed.

I'll just chalk it up to the likelihood you don't throw many parties. Thanks for your input!

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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/6/2011 2:29:15 AM   
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Jaybeee - I understand that you're looking for information ... and wanting to understand why some people do some things ... but really, you're asking questions that are kind of like "why do you like x flavor of ice cream?" - who knows?


Wrong. The choice to bar alcohol isn't as fundamental as simply not liking its taste. It's not even a whim. I said that in a post earlier. In your case, your oversensitivites in people's acceptance of you as a friend, added to the excess of your poor experiences with hard drinkers and lack of exposure to sensible ones, lead you to forbid whiskies. I often bring a bottle of Johnnie Walker to parties, a bottle of Coke Zero to mix it with, and it is very well received indeed. A group of us will sit on deckchairs out on the patio on a warm summer's evening, discussing absolutely any and every topic and putting them all to rights, and the conversation will turn from laughter, to mundane trivialities, to stories of intrigue, to romance, to confesssions. Till 4am, or until I call the caterers and order in some breakfast for my wonderful family/friends (though it should really be my host who lays on, but my guy gives me trade rates).

I am sorry for you that you keep friends whose drinks you have to vet.

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some people do, some people don't. Personally, I think it's funny on occation to go to bars and watch the drunks act stupid. One of the more amusing nights of my younger-than-25 days was spending the evening at a pub in Germany playing darts with a couple of guys who thought they were "sotally tober" ... During that trip to Germany, I also spent an evening in the company of a group of guys who had just finished their Army service. Talk about WASTED!!! I'm not sure that any of them could go more than 2 steps without staggering. Totally hysterical to watch, because they were all convinced that they were fine.


If murdering innocent people on command was my only remaining career choice, I'd probably drink to excess every free minute, too.

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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/6/2011 3:36:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		This question just seems odd to me. I have been invited to homes where shoes must be left outside the door (or just inside), and never thought anything about it, other than it was what the host requested. I have been to dinner parties where the pets either have their own chairs near the table, or are allowed to lurk under the table in the hopes that some sucker (usually me) slips them some yummy stuff.  I am a smoker, and have no issue with stepping outside to indulge when visiting a non smoking home. I really don't have a problem following the 'house rules' when visiting friends or family. If a rule is a problem, I just don't visit.

More to the topic, I do not bring wine to dinners, because I cannot drink it (allergies) and therefore know nothing about it. I will bring beer, or hard alcohol and mixers, to a BYOB BBQ or party; but I wouldn't even think about it if I was just going to visit a friend or family member. That said, unless a gathering is a 'sleep over' affair (most of the parties I attend are), I'm unlikely to have more than one or two drinks before switching to Diet Pepsi and/or water for the rest of the evening.


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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/6/2011 5:31:06 AM   
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Sounds like you have no clue what life is like over here. But if it were true, why would you care? 


Oh I have more than a clue, dear boy. As for your question, why do you ask? :)


You have more than a clue about what? From the responses to the op, I doubt it is about how things operate over here. And I doubt you meant you have more than a clue about me, because you called me a boy. So what do you have a clue about?

Oh and I asked the question because I was curious as to why you are so concerned with whether or not people allow alcohol in their houses in a country on the other side of the world. Planning a trip?


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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/6/2011 6:43:41 AM   
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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/6/2011 7:07:29 AM   
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Sounds like you have no clue what life is like over here. But if it were true, why would you care? 


Oh I have more than a clue, dear boy. As for your question, why do you ask? :)


You have more than a clue about what? From the responses to the op, I doubt it is about how things operate over here. And I doubt you meant you have more than a clue about me, because you called me a boy. So what do you have a clue about?

Oh and I asked the question because I was curious as to why you are so concerned with whether or not people allow alcohol in their houses in a country on the other side of the world. Planning a trip?


Actually I am, but that's not why I asked. I've visited your nation several times both on business and holiday, during which time I have talked with hundreds of your compatriots, and only once did I notice just the vaguest hint (and trust me, it was very vague) of anti-alcohol sentiment. But I've seen it online several times.

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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/6/2011 7:45:19 AM   
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Personally I would find it rather odd if one of my friends showed up for dinner or to hang out with hard alchohol or beer for that matter. Even during the summer when we do "family" bbqs people don't bring beer or hard alchohol. The ONLY time that hard alchohol or beer  may be present or approriate is at a party or if we are doing something like watching a sports event and no children are present.  

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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/6/2011 8:10:01 AM   
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..and nearly EVERY house in this town has controlled RXs in them.   You cant buy booze on Sunday- but you can get your narcotic RX filled on a Sunday.  STOMP



PA:

You do realize that many people take controlled substances to treat a condition vs abuse the drug, right ? < more people take it responsibly than abuse it >

How would you like it if you broke your arm at 1AM Sunday, went tot he ER, got it " patched up " until you could see your ortho on Monday, and have no means to get your pain meds filled ?

I don't see the correlation.

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RE: Why the "No-Alcohol in my house policy" w... - 3/6/2011 8:23:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just off the top of my head why people don't allow alcohol in their home not related to children or religious objections:

They don't like being around drunks?
They don't like dealing with the sobbing and bawling that some drunk people invariably burst into.
They don't like having their possessions broken by someone who is stumbling around intoxicated.
They prefer to enjoy a visit without some drunken idiot spewing stupidity from his addled brained mouth, because he's convinced (in his drunken state) of his superior wisdom.
Because there always seems to be one jackass who can't hold his/her liquor and invariably ends up turning a great time into a massively fucked up beyond all recognition hassle.

Some people prefer to avoid situations that ruin their good time.

Sompe people just don't like turning their socializing into a spin the wheel game of chance - by adding an intoxicating element into the equation.

Just off the top of my head. Personally, I allow alcohol (and drinking) in my home - but its a rare instance that there's ever any here.

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