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barelynangel -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 5:15:41 AM)

I was going to edit my post with this but time's expired.  I was telling a friend of mine about the turn of this thread and he suddenly goes --

One person's bully is another person's HELL YEAH!





LadyPact -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 5:18:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt
Let's see, a disruptive kid gets called into the office and returns a short time later. No way the other kids laughed simply because he got in trouble with the teacher, cause that never happens. If they did see it, I'm betting rick1283 is right.

Speaking of 'humiliation' and 'trauma', exactly how much did Mom improve the situation by taking it to the media? I hope she plans to home school, because this kid is gonna catch no end of shit from all the other kids now, no matter what school she transfers him to. His last name will absolutely guarantee that. Will that be because a teacher pinned a note to his shirt in second grade? No, it will be because Mom threw a very public shit fit about something pretty damn minor.


That's the second time that you've saved Me keystrokes on this thread.  Thank you.

Mom totally set this kid up for the way other kids will treat him now.  I can hear it all ready.  "Run home and tell Mommy so you can be on the news again."

Funny, because the first article mentions that Mom had received the prior notes.  There's not a single mention of how she responded when she got the others that were sent or a single word about how she was correcting the child on his behavior at school.  All of that got forgotten so the victim card could be played.  Does the woman really think that going to the media did her son any favors about how kids will pick on him now?




barelynangel -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 5:26:15 AM)

She wasn't thinking of her kid at all, she was thinking HEY i can get on the news, the school did something i don't like so i can exploit it and sue them and get som non-earned money cause they will pay me just to shut me up. 

What this mother did was nothing about the kid, the kid was just a tool who provided her with an opportunity.  Unfortunately, she is teaching her child to be a victim.

angel




IrishMist -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 5:37:10 AM)

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Apologies to the under 25's here but how many of you have school age children!!!!!

I raised 4 children, and am still raising one more. I applaud the teacher for taking the steps she did.

What's more, I raised ALL of my children to be respectful to those in authority; especially those who had care of them during times that I did not...and that included the SCHOOL SYSTEM, not just teachers. If a teacher told my child to be quiet, and they did not...I not only expected them to discipline them according to their own rules, but to also inform me of the disrespctful behavior, in whatever manner they deemed fit.

The only thing children are learning now a days from their parents is 'if you don't like it, raise a fuss so that I CAN RAISE A FUSS."

Yea, wonderful way to raise a child. Good luck with that.




tazzygirl -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 5:55:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CherryNeko

I didn't survive being a kid, my mom was on my side.


I dont believe I mentioned the word survive in any of my posts.




Icarys -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 10:49:42 AM)

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Apparently being honest and telling the truth is being a bully.

Yeah it is these days..You aren't saying what she wants to hear..She'd rather have a pity party.




tazzygirl -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 11:16:41 AM)

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I accept full responsibility for not becoming a bully so I can be a big girl just like you.


Kudos for you not becomming a bully. You have also not become a big enough girl to take constructive criticism. There is a world of difference between the two.

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I'm sorry you don't understand the difference between living in the past and someone speaking out against others having to go through the same thing. Didn't you see the posts where people were saying children should be humiliated because it builds character?


It was very difficult to see those posts in between yours complaining about how being called a liar had ruined your life forever.

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I stated very clearly that once the teacher made me a target, the bullying lasted for years. In other words, the teacher was only the beginning. If you had read my posts, you would know that. I'm sorry you were molested. I was raped when I was 12. The rape took less time to get over than the bullying because the rape only happened once. The thought of other children being bullied infuriates me because I remember how it felt. That doesn't mean I'm not over it.


The teacher targeted you, your family allowed it to continue. There was more than enough blame to go around... and yet you still continue to target the teacher. Now, your view of any situation regarding a teacher is clouded by your own experience.

You completey, and repeatedly, discount the fact that the teacher did her best to hide the note from everyone else. The mother displays a victim mentality, as evidenced by her running to the media. The mother is also teaching her child to be a victim as well.

Now, if this had been the OP

Last Updated On: 10/12/2007 9:40:08 AM
An Indiana teacher's aide has been fired after stapling a Post-it note to a fourth grader's head.

On Monday, the 9-year-old student at Jefferson Elementary went to the nurse's office complaining that her head hurt.

The school says the girl stuck a Post-it note to her forehead and, when she was ordered to remove it and did not, the aide stapled it to her head.

The aide was fired that afternoon.

"I don't believe it was a malicious act but anytime a student is injured our number one concern at school is the safety of the students, and that trust was broken and that person is no longer employed with us," says Principal Bob Remenih at Jefferson Elementary.

The fourth grader is back in school.

Her parents say she received a tetanus shot as a precaution.


Yep, fry the bitch.




TheShrew -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 11:41:57 AM)

When my son was a child, no teacher ever stapled a note to his shirt, but he came home  many times with a note safety pinned to his shirt. His teacher did not do this to humiliate, shame, demean or degrade him. She simply realized that, between the ages 5-7, the little fellas have the attention span of a chipmunk on crack, and do well to make it back home with their shoes.
 
His teacher and I knew the he chances of him remembering where he put her note to be able to give it to me, were slim to none. No one duct taped him to the wall and beat him with a stick ..just made sure Mom received information about her child. I don't see that as a bad thing.
 
There were several reasons she sent home notes and they weren't bad ..  losing the check to pay his lunch fee for the month and me needing to send another, being given a part in a Christmas play, info regarding "picture day, the classes valiant attempt to find a hoodie, an additional immunization, etc 

The 2 tiny holes the safety pin left behind disappeared with one pass through the laundry. If holes later expanded, {would have taken months}, it simply became a play shirt.
 
Thankfully, in adulthood, his life has not fallen into utter ruin or a vicious cycle or drugs/alcohol/self-loathing .. due a note being pinned to his shirt in kindergarten/1st/2nd grade .. {neither he nor his peers knew the content of said notes. Yet, he experienced no negative effects. Weird!}




Aylee -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 12:19:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

However, in the case of this particular poster, DBG, she has one sob story after another about the insurmountable obstacles in her life.

She is responsible for NONE of the situations in her life. She is never the star of her own story. She is never the actor. She is only acted upon. This is what and who she has chosen to be. Yet she whinges about it with out doing ANY of the work to change it.


This coming from someone with the title of "heartless bitch" under the collarme name. Why am I not surprised? I believe the word you're looking for is whines, not "whinges." And I did accept as much responsibility as a child could. I learned to keep my mouth shut like a good little girl and not show any intelligence whatsoever to try to avoid humiliation. When the school tested me and found out how advanced I was, they griped me out for not showing my intelligence. At that point, I decided I couldn't make them happy no matter what I did (catch 22).



whinge/(h)winj/
Verb: Complain persistently and in a peevish or irritating way.
Noun: An act of complaining in such a way.

Nope, I have it correct, ya twit.

twit/twit/
Noun: A mentally deficient or self-defeating person

You are STILL crying about things that happened over a decade ago. You are now an adult and it is time for you to act like one. "Take your life in your own hands and what happens? A terrible thing: no one to blame." -- Erica Jong

Or you could get a Live Journal account and cry about it there.

Yes, I do get called a bitch quite often. What I do NOT get called is pushover, stupid, sweetheart, dear or doormat. Works for me.




Aylee -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 12:25:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: lazarus1983

A forum bully? How is that even possible?

'Gimme all your emoticons! And don't you dare quote my post to the mod!'


But. . . but. . . Holly already stole my lunch emoticons!




VideoAdminTheta -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 12:29:04 PM)

Sharing your experiences is wonderful and encouraged. However, let's not make the thread about any one person. Remain on topic and remind yourselves not to attack the person, but feel free to express how you feel about a post.

Thank you




rick1283 -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 2:32:30 PM)

Ok, can we get one thing clear here? Something that I thought was clear in the beginning, but now seems like it came from the air in NYC?

It doesn't matter if the kid understands WHY what he/she did was wrong, but rather, ACCEPTS that it is so. Understanding will come later if it does at all. Otherwise he/she will just have to continue accepting it as such.
Maybe they actually CAN'T understand it, but that doesn't mean the reasons aren't there.

The best example I can come up with is the 'gimmies', when little kids seem to want everything in sight. The parents may get them a few things or say "No" outright (what terrible people![8|]), but eventually the child will understand that he CAN'T have every toy or game he wants if he wants to go to bed with a full belly.




lazarus1983 -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 3:01:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


quote:

ORIGINAL: lazarus1983

A forum bully? How is that even possible?

'Gimme all your emoticons! And don't you dare quote my post to the mod!'


But. . . but. . . Holly already stole my lunch emoticons!


Now now, nobody likes a tattletale.




tazzygirl -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 3:12:32 PM)

Aylee is a tattletale... Aylee is a tattletale!!!




lazarus1983 -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 3:20:29 PM)

No running in the hall!




tazzygirl -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 3:25:38 PM)

Awww man!!!




rick1283 -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 3:40:22 PM)

Ksst! Tazzy! We should start a food fight at lunch!




tazzygirl -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/10/2011 3:56:25 PM)

OOOOOOO then we can go on the playground and whisper about the new kid!




CherryNeko -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/11/2011 2:04:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: CherryNeko

I didn't survive being a kid, my mom was on my side.


I dont believe I mentioned the word survive in any of my posts.


*Does not understand*
Pardon?
I wrote survive cause it's in the title, you know...




tiggerspoohbear -> RE: OMG -- How did we ever survive being a kid (3/11/2011 6:21:13 AM)

My sister has now been a teacher for over 22 years, kindergarten.  When she first started out she had help from a teacher with more experience.  Over the course of all these years she's taken every "class", lecture, whatever is available to help her become a better teacher.  She now helps new teachers remembering how nerve-wracking it was for her.

She's had a student pull a switchblade on her, she's had kids who did nothing but disrupt for what seemed like forever.  She's had kids tell her with a smirk that "she can't touch them or she'll be sent to jail cuz that's what their parents told them".  She doesn't lose her temper, she realized they're kids.  Young ones at that.  But she doesn't take crap either and is firm.  They know this and for the most part behave. 

She spends evenings calling parents about their children, she's always available to the parents.  Most of the parents are willing to work with her, and want their kids to start off on the right foot.  Then there's the parents who think she's a glorified babysitter, should be bringing up THEIR kids and just don't give a damn.  She's involved the principle in some cases where she felt it was necessary.  The kids that cause the most and consistent problems are the ones who's parents just don't give a damn.

So, yeah, she's been lucky so far that she hasn't been sued for some infraction a parent could have blown out of proportion because their little darling was told to sit down and be quiet.  I once spent a day with her and saw how hard she worked.  Add to that, she's teaching her students French immersion, children who've never spoken a word of French.  She still loves it because of the good kids she sees every year.  And they're in the majority.

And i really believe that nothing has been said by the teacher in this case because the school board has implemented a moratorium on any statements being made.  In case it ends up in court, which it most likely will.




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