Edwynn
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Republicans are not thrilled however because these people these people mostly vote for Democrats.
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I am thrilled that the US is getting more diverse and less white. I am thrilled that different cultures are being absorbed into the whole that is the US, creating a new whole.
I do understand the point Aylee is making. Celebrating differences can be a two edged sword with many.
Addressing two things here;
I would most certainly be thrilled if it were the case "that different cultures are being absorbed into the whole that is the US, creating a new whole."
in which case the white bread Americans, i.e. those outside of the Southeast US and the large cities elsewhere could finally experience this diversity firsthand, being as that some number of them seem unable to keep all their curiosity and conjecture concerning something they know nothing at all about to themselves and quit driving everybody bonkers with stupid statements and questions. MOST welcome that would be to have such curiosity quenched by r/l experience for a change.
OTOH, I'm not really counting on that. The immigrants have been and will be moving to the same locations they have been for years, the SW US and the big cities, but this latest influx spreading into the SE US more and more. It is also demonstrated that these people have some modicum of good sense as to where to relocate, which is why places like Iowa and Idaho will still not be seeing much of this wonderful diversity anytime soon. If you really hate immigrants, tell them to move to Boston or Rochester, the really "progressive" places when it comes to diversity. I myself do not hate them enough to do such a thing.
Message to white bread America; this is actually fun. You take one semester of Spanish, buy a small dictionary and the basic grammar book and be done with it. After that you can play or talk with the young kids at the grocery store. Point to something and say "qué is eso?" , "sustantivo!", qué is eso? "leche!", etc. They soon start asking you what it's called, and you say "cookie", "milk", etc. My own Spanish class was 8 years ago and I don't remember any of it except for the standard lines, but it doesn't matter to recent immigrants, they just appreciate any help they can get until their kids can learn the language well enough for mom and dad to find their way in this new world.
Item two:
"Republicans are not thrilled however because these people these people mostly vote for Democrats."
Haven't been to Miami, have you?
Aside from that, the large group of immigrants I worked with some years ago were fun to work with, we could hardly understand each other, and great comedy ensued from our fumbling efforts at each others language, etc. but when I asked any of them why/how they came here, the response was "mi Iglesia," "my church."
The borders are open for a reason, one that large corporations are quite fond of: keeping wages low in the US.
That one never sprung to your politico-limited head, did it?
What a tool.
They are trying their best to bus as many as possible into the country from evangelical style church groups, "mi Iglesia".
That's news from an "on the ground" source, not a "hooray for my side!" political rag, so I know that what I say has no value in comparison.
Developmental economics has much empirical evidence and analysis to explain that poor countries have excess labor, in which case the marginal product of labor is zero (the next unit of labor adds nothing to total output), whereas in the more developed country with fully developed capital inputs (machines, computers, etc.) the marginal product of labor is much higher. The going price of labor, the wage, is set by marginal product of labor, that's it. For a given amount of labor, increased productivity means higher wages in this situation of a set amount of labor. How do we keep wages from going up as to relate the economic worth so obtained? The answer is to keep adding to the left side of the equation by adding more labor so as to keep the price on the right side of the equation from going up.
Wages remain flat! Yay!
"Republicans are not thrilled however because these people these people mostly vote for Democrats."
Can somebody please just shoot this guy?
~ sigh ~
OK, I guess not. Sorry to have mentioned it.
Who cares what Republicans think, who cares what Democrats think, the largest corporations certainly don't. They have their way regardless, provide proof to the contrary if you can.
< Message edited by Edwynn -- 3/26/2011 6:19:16 AM >
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