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LadyPact -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/27/2011 9:56:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt
I'll crochet a Leather Pride flag and fly it from my car antenna to be sure that you spot me. [:D]


LMFAO!

There are a dozen or so folks that I would go out of My way to find.  You are definitely one of them.

I would bring you home here with Me.  If you would have us, we would be your family, always care for you and love you.  I would spend My evenings after hard days of work to enjoy the simple pleasures of just sitting together.

You can't bring reptiles, though.  I'll have enough of that.





TheHeretic -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/27/2011 9:57:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

That's great, you can tell me about your ethics when you bleed to death and I take your goods.  Bwahahaha!



No, Noctu, I will tell you that your mommy really did love you, but didn't know how to show it, and you will cry, and then we'll quietly shoot you, because broken people who kill to feel better about themselves don't have any place in the new world.




NocturnalStalker -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/27/2011 10:05:11 PM)

I could tell you're from California since you live in a delusional world!




TheHeretic -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/27/2011 10:21:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

I could tell you're from California since you live in a delusional world!




We do have all manner of freaks here, to study.




NocturnalStalker -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/27/2011 10:24:43 PM)

When the time comes, I'll give you the option to join me or face termination.  




WyldHrt -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/27/2011 10:35:44 PM)

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LMFAO!

There are a dozen or so folks that I would go out of My way to find.  You are definitely one of them.

Thankies [:D][:D][:D]
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I would bring you home here with Me.  If you would have us, we would be your family, always care for you and love you.  I would spend My evenings after hard days of work to enjoy the simple pleasures of just sitting together.
You're on! I'll also bring my medical gear, backcountry gear, solar cooker(s), cast iron, leather tools and will raid every grocery and yarn/ fabric shop on the way up. We certainly won't starve or freeze! If you are so inclined, you could also do much worse for a stable manager to take care of the horses (that I know where to find) up that way [;)]
Either way, I'll bring the graham crackers, marshmallows, and chocolate!
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You can't bring reptiles, though.  I'll have enough of that.

Hmm... not even the gecko brothers? They are awfully cute and better than bug zappers for getting rid of creepy crawlies. [8D]


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LadyPact -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/27/2011 10:56:13 PM)

We'd never starve or freeze anyways.  I was taught to shoot before I could drive a car.  As long as there are deer, there is food and warmth.  You would look pretty hot in deer skin, anyway.




GreedyTop -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/27/2011 11:12:27 PM)

~FR~

I'm sad to say that if I were to survive the inital whatever, I most likely wouldnt last long beyond that.  Aside from truck driving skills (a skill that would be limited need at best, and easily transferred to others withe additional and more relevent skills), I'd be useless...  dont know any domestic/hunting skills that could get me a pass, organizational skills? HAH! Ask anyone thats ever seen my place. Breeder is out.  POSSIBLY, I might have some value as a caregiver (secondary/tertiary..).. and I am usually good in crisis situations (as far as reaction.. I don't generally fall apart until AFTER the crisis has passed).

unless I was needed to nurture furbabies? (and dont even  start an furbabies and food needs...nobody is eating my kittehs!!)




WyldHrt -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/27/2011 11:21:12 PM)

I shot my first gun at age 6. Growing up in a cop family has its advantages. [:)]

Deer will probably never be in short supply in that area... and I would look hot in deerskin...
Still, there is something to be said for skooshy crocheted/ quilted hats, scarves and blankies in the winter. [:D]






KMsAngel -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/27/2011 11:38:56 PM)

i can bring gecko's.
i can bring quilts (and tons of material)
i can eat graham crackers voraciously [:D]
i can garden
i have a brother with goat kids to spare
i can shoot
i learn fast

any takers? [8D]




LadyPact -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/27/2011 11:41:20 PM)

I would be a very envied leader, indeed.

There would be furbabies to care for, GT.  Not cats so much, though I do think we would use them for vermin control.  There would be calves, and colts, and chicks, and lambs.  All of which would still need someone to see to their needs. 

The end of civilization is starting to sound pretty good.




GreedyTop -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/27/2011 11:46:46 PM)

ok, Lady P.. aside from the AWWWWWWWWWWWW ffactor of the babies, I know jack about caring for them (other than to shovel food into their pens? I think?.. oh and water)

of course, a few good husbandry books might eddicate this city girl.. *grins*

(and dammit, I REQUIRE a furbaby, preferably of the feline persuasion..they literally keep me sane ...um, sane-ish)




WyldHrt -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/28/2011 12:05:19 AM)

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Not cats so much, though I do think we would use them for vermin control.

We would definitely need some barn/ pantry cats if keeping livestock and storing hay/ grain is part of the plan.

I would also suggest keeping dogs. It just so happens that one of your volunteers is a trainer with years of experience in PP (personal protection) and area guard training. [:D]
 
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The end of civilization is starting to sound pretty good.

At least in our little corner of California... [;)]




WyldHrt -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/28/2011 12:07:02 AM)

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ok, Lady P.. aside from the AWWWWWWWWWWWW ffactor of the babies, I know jack about caring for them (other than to shovel food into their pens? I think?.. oh and water)

If LP allows, I can teach ya what to do, Greedy. [:)]




sunshinemiss -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/28/2011 6:25:56 AM)

Sunny
Quote of the Day
goes to
Hippiekinkster
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for
Yet another reason why
the preservation of books is imperative.




Rule -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/28/2011 6:37:25 AM)

FR

What about beggars?




StrangerThan -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/28/2011 7:01:33 AM)

I lived with grandparents most of my childhood who had never emerged from the lessons of the Great Depression. Much of what might be considered survival strategies were second nature. We grew most of our food, plant and animal, and up until I was maybe 10, did our own butchering. Stretching crops through a good part of the winter was second nature as well. Some we canned, some we dug up, then put right back in the ground, some were dried, meat was salted and/or smoked. Hell, I plowed with mules up to about 14.

If you are one of the few survivors, you'll have a massive pool of resources. There's no reason you can't just survive, but do relatively well. Where you're going to hurt is with medical supplies. No matter how much you scavenge, once they start losing potency, you're screwed. My grandmother can still tell you which weeds, trees, shrubs, and the like to use for what malady, but truth is before antibiotics, many diseases were killers and maimers. The won't go away.

Crops I can grow. Animals I can raise and butcher. Fuel and electricity I can make. Other than a few plants that have mild medical applications though, I'd not have a clue. My wife is a nurse, but that doesn't mean she knows how to make drugs. So when it comes to scavenging, the people would probably be as important as the raw resources. Anyone who had worked with electricity, a doctor, anyone who either lived on a farm or had lived a farm life before, and like you, I would most likely reject a power structure where one person ran things. Pretty much, if I'm going to waste my time keeping someone else's ass alive, they better be out in the field with me.




Hippiekinkster -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/28/2011 10:15:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: StrangerThan

I lived with grandparents most of my childhood who had never emerged from the lessons of the Great Depression. Much of what might be considered survival strategies were second nature. We grew most of our food, plant and animal, and up until I was maybe 10, did our own butchering. Stretching crops through a good part of the winter was second nature as well. Some we canned, some we dug up, then put right back in the ground, some were dried, meat was salted and/or smoked. Hell, I plowed with mules up to about 14.

If you are one of the few survivors, you'll have a massive pool of resources. There's no reason you can't just survive, but do relatively well. Where you're going to hurt is with medical supplies. No matter how much you scavenge, once they start losing potency, you're screwed. My grandmother can still tell you which weeds, trees, shrubs, and the like to use for what malady, but truth is before antibiotics, many diseases were killers and maimers. The won't go away.

Crops I can grow. Animals I can raise and butcher. Fuel and electricity I can make. Other than a few plants that have mild medical applications though, I'd not have a clue. My wife is a nurse, but that doesn't mean she knows how to make drugs. So when it comes to scavenging, the people would probably be as important as the raw resources. Anyone who had worked with electricity, a doctor, anyone who either lived on a farm or had lived a farm life before, and like you, I would most likely reject a power structure where one person ran things. Pretty much, if I'm going to waste my time keeping someone else's ass alive, they better be out in the field with me.
Good post. One of my "odd" skillsets is being able to read stuff, then figure out how to do it. That, combined with my background in chemistry (mostly analytical, but I've synthesized some stuff), would best be used doing stuff other than building or plowing. I'm too frakkin' old for manual labour anyway. I also have access to a high-morphine strain of poppyseeds. Easy enough to extract M and codeine from poppystraw, and oxycodone is only a two-step synthesis from thebaine. Antibiotics would be harder, but penicillin was first isolated from a mold. I'd either have to learn microbiology or find someone with those skills, who can grow and isolate the correct mold. BTW, many drugs can last way past their shelf life. I found the following quite interesting. http://www.upmc-biosecurity.org/website/resources/publications/2009/2009-03-27-max_st_local_med_cntr.html Note how much money is saved with this program, which protects Americans. Probably one of the programs that far-rightards want to cut. Dumbfucks.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/28/2011 10:32:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hlen5

I KNEW Panda would have a kick-ass plan!!!


Yeah; if only I knew how to devise an equally effective plan for the life that I actually am living. Story of my life - always in the wrong place at the wrong time, and prepared for the wrong thing.




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/28/2011 10:37:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster
Something that just occured to me - solar calculators. Nearly everything that is done, from making soaps to building a cabin, requires calculation. In my foraging I would also hit up HS and college labs for reagents, glassware, and other labware. It'll be needed eventually.


Oh, good idea. That's one that hadn't occurred to me.

To your book list, I'd also add historical novels. It's amazing how much you can learn about the way people lived their lives in the olden days by reading a well-written novel about their era. The complete works of Michener would be a graduate-level course in how to solve day-to-day problems in a primitive existence. I still find myself using some of the engineering tricks he wrote about in "The Source," for example, and it's been 30 years since I read that.




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