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TreasureKY -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/29/2011 10:10:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: outhere69 I think we'd need some sheep, spinning wheels or spindles, and some looms for when we run out of fabric. Churro sheep need very little vet car and have good wool for yarn. I suspect there's enough scavenge-able fabric out there to last a reduced population for quite some time. Heck, I probably have enough on hand right now to keep Firm and I clothed for the rest of our lives. Not to mention all the vacant houses with full closets to shop from. Of course, I suppose there's something to be said for maintaining skills and knowledge for posterity. Thing is, how many people do you personally know that know how and have experience in spinning and weaving? And just what do you think the chances are for one or more of them to survive in the first place? Speaking as someone who does know how and has spun thread and woven cloth... I'll be damned if I'm going to bother doing it when there are an abundant number of abandoned fabric stores, cloth factories, and stores and closets full of ready-made clothes there for the taking. [;)]

outhere69 -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/30/2011 3:54:29 AM)
Yeah, but how long will the material last when it's hard to store them properly? For instance, fabric shops will be in bad shape after the power and air conditioning go down, or the roof leaks. A little extra moisture and poof there be mildew.

Hippiekinkster -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/30/2011 4:06:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: outhere69 Yeah, but how long will the material last when it's hard to store them properly? For instance, fabric shops will be in bad shape after the power and air conditioning go down, or the roof leaks. A little extra moisture and poof there be mildew. Well, there are plenty of shops where there ie no AC. Furthermore, people like me ahve the foresight to scavenge tanks of industrial gasses, such as nitrogen. One can store many things under N2 almost indefinitely, if sealed properly. Such as tetracycline, Cipro, dried herbs, whole coffee, teas and tisanes, rare books, to name but a few.

TreasureKY -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/30/2011 4:32:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: outhere69 Yeah, but how long will the material last when it's hard to store them properly? For instance, fabric shops will be in bad shape after the power and air conditioning go down, or the roof leaks. A little extra moisture and poof there be mildew. If I remember correctly (an ex-brother-in-law used to work in a fabric warehouse), most new fabric (and off-the-rack garments) are treated with formaldehyde. Whether it is formaldehyde or some other chemical protectant, I can tell you from my forty years of sewing experience that one of the first rules of thumb is to always clean a newly made garment before wearing. Actually, you should clean the fabric before cutting out your pattern, but that is for another reason. The composition of the fabric is going to make a difference on how well it holds up to exposure, too. I suspect that natural fabrics are going to be the first to deteriorate. Some of the modern fabrics are pretty much made of plastic and, if the ecologists are to be believed, will last forever. [;)]

hlen5 -> RE: It's the End of the World as We Know It... (3/30/2011 9:17:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster ........rare books, to name but a few. One bad thing about relying on the web to get information. No hardcopy.

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