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Had you done so, you would have realised I share the same position on this issue as your President, numerous US politicians on both sides, NATO, Pres Karzai and many others international figures.

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The poor little Muslims cannot be responsible for their actions? Are you KIDDING me? What, do you think they are mental defectives? Not really human?

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Im surprised no one mentioned that the burning was possibly an excuse

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The key to all this killing, is don't give those that would kill a reason to kill.

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ORIGINAL: Aneirin

Yes, just the latest excuse and an excuse amongst many, but it was reported that the riot and subsequent killings took place after prayers at the mosque, so which religious nut case stirred up that bag of shit, undoubtedly the prayer meeting leader, mullahs and priests again, those with the position in society to influence, they should be using their exhalted popsitions with responsibility not irresponsibility.

Now it could be what Jones did was elevate tensions from so called hunting down those with terrorist inclinations to a religious war, because how does it look in the countries were the Americans are fighting supposedly for their Afghani freedom when an Americam religious leader goes on tv and burns their holy book.

The key to all this killing, is don't give those that would kill a reason to kill. The west should be well aware by now the subject of religion to the muslims is a very touchy subject.

I just wonder sometimes if jones is trying to emulate the Cordoban priests.

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The poor little Muslims cannot be responsible for their actions? Are you KIDDING me? What, do you think they are mental defectives? Not really human?

Here's an interesting analysis of that line of thought, from one Claire Berlinske:

I’m sure you remember the story of Roy Horn, the Las Vegas illusionist mauled on stage by Montecore, an exquisitely beautiful seven-year-old white tiger with whom he thought he had a trusting and affectionate relationship. It was an awful story. Of course many made an obvious observation: Animals do what animals do. Tigers have instincts and a fixed nature. It would have been ridiculous to call the tiger a “savage” or a “barbarian.”

To those in the media who are suggesting, apparently in all seriousness, that Terry Jones caused the deaths of seven UN employees in Afghanistan by burning a copy of the Koran, I’ll just note that the only way that argument works is by means of a suppressed premise. The premise is that the killers had no moral agency–in other words, that they were, literally, animals.

Me, I’ll stick with “savages” and “barbarians.”

Even savages are responsible for their actions.....

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~FR

Amazing... just amazing.

The only one responsible for the murders are those who did the deed. Im surprised no one mentioned that the burning was possibly an excuse and not the impetus.

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Whereas Western democracy champions believe that all people are born with the same Western liberal democratic values, post-colonialists believe that non-Westerners are nothing more than victims of the West. They are not responsible for any of their own pathologies because they are not actors. Only Westerners (and Israelis) are actors. Non-Westerners are objects. And like all objects, they cannot be held responsible for anything they do because they are wholly controlled by forces beyond their control. http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=206121

Is more what I was going for.

Objectification or failure to allow individual moral agency is right up there with adjusting test scores for fireman promotions. It is extremely racist. It is saying, "Unless we give you some free points, you are just not going to measure up." Free points on a test or freedom of action. . . either is repugnant.

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The key to all this killing, is don't give those that would kill a reason to kill. The west should be well aware by now the subject of religion to the muslims is a very touchy subject.

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Whereas Western democracy champions believe that all people are born with the same Western liberal democratic values, post-colonialists believe that non-Westerners are nothing more than victims of the West.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


This is why I like you Aylee, youve got your head screwed on really tight, especially in matters like these.

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This is why I like you Aylee, youve got your head screwed on really tight, especially in matters like these.

Awwww! Thanks!

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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u
Shit,I would cut my own head off ...if I had received an endorsement from him.
Oh well different strokes and all that [:)]