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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Its unrealistic to pretend that we can do without our military in times like these, or that Dems dont like to play world cop. These defense expenses are more likely saving us money than costing us because its far cheaper to have a deterrence than to have to go to war for a lack of deterrence.

Again, it would be nice to see our allies shoulder their fair share of the defense load for a change.

What does the military and 'world cop' even have to do with the frakking topic, Sanity? Is that your best attempt at a rebuttal on why the USA shouldn't cut medicare and medicaid? Or reduce Social Security further?

Even though your arguements are generally mindless and irrelvent, stick to the topic.

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Would you rather be called a dim libtard, or a repuke rethug neocon warmongering baby killing granny basher who hates the environment, black people, gays, veterans, as well as science, Muslims, and the handicapped...

You forgot ignorant.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Just raise revenues?

Take money from people / businesses?

Why do you think the government (Obama) tried spending trillions on 'stimulus programs' to put more money in peoples and businesses hands during the recession.

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Pretty simple from where I sit. Raise revenues.....Never ever, EVER going to cut your way to prosperity. Cut the Bush tax cuts out for the wealthy. Impose a sales tax on all stock transactions. Impose a 30% export fee on foodstuffs leaving this country........

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Its unrealistic to pretend that we can do without our military in times like these, or that Dems dont like to play world cop. These defense expenses are more likely saving us money than costing us because its far cheaper to have a deterrence than to have to go to war for a lack of deterrence.

Again, it would be nice to see our allies shoulder their fair share of the defense load for a change.

What does the military and 'world cop' even have to do with the frakking topic, Sanity? Is that your best attempt at a rebuttal on why the USA shouldn't cut medicare and medicaid? Or reduce Social Security further?

Even though your arguements are generally mindless and irrelvent, stick to the topic.

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk
And how about the question about grandma.....you pushing her to the street after her benefits run out?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Try reading the thread, and youll realize I was replying to a point raised by jfl. There is a little thing called context that you may find truly amazing...

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Its unrealistic to pretend that we can do without our military in times like these, or that Dems dont like to play world cop. These defense expenses are more likely saving us money than costing us because its far cheaper to have a deterrence than to have to go to war for a lack of deterrence.

Again, it would be nice to see our allies shoulder their fair share of the defense load for a change.

What does the military and 'world cop' even have to do with the frakking topic, Sanity? Is that your best attempt at a rebuttal on why the USA shouldn't cut medicare and medicaid? Or reduce Social Security further?

Even though your arguements are generally mindless and irrelvent, stick to the topic.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Did you lose anything other than your funny bone in that accident

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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Would you rather be called a dim libtard, or a repuke rethug neocon warmongering baby killing granny basher who hates the environment, black people, gays, veterans, as well as science, Muslims, and the handicapped...

You forgot ignorant.

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Trillions spent on on the 'stimulus programs', eh? There was more than one Recovery and Reinvestment Act? And that the R&RA was worth 'trillions'? Maybe you should get your FACTS STRAIGHT! That was the only bill passed under what conservatives dubbed 'stimulus' for a total of $787 Billion. Now, last I checked my mathematics, $787 Billion is LESS then 'Trillions'.

You do know why that bill was enacted, right, Sanity? Oh, forgot, you failed at 'Recent US History', didnt you? It was to keep the country from plunging into a Depression, similar to the Great Depression. Since we are currently not in a Depression, I would have to say it was money well spent. We could have listen to Republicans (like we did for years before) and be in a Depression right now. Would you prefer the nation in a Depression, Sanity? 'Yes' or 'No'?

Just removing the Bush era tax cuts, would solve about 80% of the current deficit problems immediately. From there, raising taxes would bring the budget in to balanced mode. Then, we could start paying down the US Debt. Once the economy is good (and it will be), and that debt is down to a pokey $2 Trillion, we could entertain the idea of reducing taxes.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Try reading the thread, and youll realize I was replying to a point raised by jfl. There is a little thing called context that you may find truly amazing...

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ORIGINAL: joether

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Its unrealistic to pretend that we can do without our military in times like these, or that Dems dont like to play world cop. These defense expenses are more likely saving us money than costing us because its far cheaper to have a deterrence than to have to go to war for a lack of deterrence.

Again, it would be nice to see our allies shoulder their fair share of the defense load for a change.

What does the military and 'world cop' even have to do with the frakking topic, Sanity? Is that your best attempt at a rebuttal on why the USA shouldn't cut medicare and medicaid? Or reduce Social Security further?

Even though your arguements are generally mindless and irrelvent, stick to the topic.

Please show us where in Post # 71 (that's your post, to which I'm blasting you on) states that you are rebutting jfl? If you were replying to him, wouldn't it make sense to put that into your post? That way, it tells all of us, your are objecting to something specific, rather then (as I noted) something 'out in left field' of an arguement.

Jfl's arguement is that in each and every Republican budget plan, cuts are made into typical things (healthcare, education, etc) and not a penny into the defense budget. He noted in some examples, the Republican's budgets INCREASE funding. Which he (and I too) thought was odd, coming from a group bitching that Democrats dont want to cut spending, but increase it.

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This from arizona. Enjoy eating the fucking cactus. And, mind, when that group of young hispanics grow up in 10 years and starts to vote....say goodbye to your "benefits"

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So, you aren't going to answer the question then......are you that much of a coward that you can't stand up and say what you are for or not for?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Again, dyb - its the Dems who are being vicious to grandma, by spending more than we take in at outrageous levels, thereby raising the national debt so incredibly high that soon we will owe more on interest than we can possibly pay.

Ever heard of the word 'default'? If we fail to cut spending in a meaningful way, at some point in the near future the Dems chickens will come home to roost and the cuts will be deeper, and they wont be nearly as pretty.

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And how about the question about grandma.....you pushing her to the street after her benefits run out?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Again, dyb - its the Dems who are being vicious to grandma, by spending more than we take in at outrageous levels, thereby raising the national debt so incredibly high that soon we will owe more on interest than we can possibly pay.

Ever heard of the word 'default'? If we fail to cut spending in a meaningful way, at some point in the near future the Dems chickens will come home to roost and the cuts will be deeper, and they wont be nearly as pretty.

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk
And how about the question about grandma.....you pushing her to the street after her benefits run out?