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imperatrixx -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 9:52:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Its the far left feminist / ultra pc "government is god, Obama the messiah" crowd enacting mandatory minimums and must prosecute laws for spousal abuse (etc) that are putting the real damper on the BDSM lfestyle. I'm afraid I don't see how laws preventing women being abused by their partners and other forms of domestic violence impact on consensual BDSM/sexual activities, Sanity. And I'm unclear what the etc stands for. Could you be a little more specific for me please? Like to hold my hand and take me through your reasoning for same please? Is this the kind of thing you approve of? I'm guessing by "far left feminists" he means radical feminists. The "all sex is rape" crowd.

slvemike4u -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 10:00:14 AM)
Wow,that is one fucked(or not)up "crowd".[:D]

Hillwilliam -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 10:30:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LaTigresse The ultra religious right would probably want to lock him up, cast him out....call him the eeeeeeeeeebiiiiiiiiillllllllll debil! You are probably correct. It seems the ultra religious Right of 2000 years ago wasn't exactly jumping up and down in agreement when Pilate offered to free him. Possibly they saw him as a threat to their power?

slvemike4u -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 10:37:15 AM)
Born and raised a Catholic....it is the faith of my mother and my father,it is,in the final analysis ,my faith...yet I find at times that it asks me far too often to think as a child thinks....and call this thinking "faith".So over the years my beliefs,and lack thereof,has ebbed and flowed.The one constant thru all of the years,and all of the questions is the historical belief that a radical preacher walked the earth a long time ago(it's the whole "son of god" thing that comes and goes)a man whose teaching were so radical,and yes liberal,that the powers that be demanded his death. Challenging the existing power structure has never been a safe proposition.

thishereboi -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 11:12:02 AM)
ok, just checkin'

Hillwilliam -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 11:25:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi ok, just checkin' No worries boi. Hard core Agnostic here. Just because I'm agnostic, though, doesn't mean I cant look at the man's life story and decide that he REALLY had some great ideas about how a person should live their life and he is a great role model.

Aneirin -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 7:08:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam You hit it on the head anerin. In Matthew, Jesus tells his followers NOT to go to a 'church' but rather to worship in your own room away from others. quote: ORIGINAL: Aneirin quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne yeh but religions are huge informal democracy;s and easy to put a finger on. But here I have a problem with christianity if the teachings of Jesus are correct, for he it is reported was against religion and that because of the immoral system that had attached itself or grown out of oranisation of belief, yet after his death what happens, but a religion is created in his name, I wonder if he is spinning in his grave, for that could well be the greatest insult to Jesus and his teachings. I understand of the teachings of Jesus, he was trying to tell people the god was not in the church, but in the self , others and the enviroment. And the two of you are suggesting others follow his words because you think he was the son of god or because he was a carpenter? I'm suggesting his words be followed because he preached a LOT of good advice. Loving your neighbor. "the golden rule". Caring for the sick and disenfranchised. His rejection of misogyny. His rejection of "organized religion". His teachings that just because someone is foreign doesn't make them evil. Whether he was truly the son of God or what isn't as important as his teachings. Jesus was (I'm gonna start a shitstorm here) quite the liberal in his day. A lot of his teachings are considered 'liberal' even today. I agree with all that you have said here as you have said much of what I would say in answer and particularly about Jesus possibly not being the son of god, for I think Islam have a better angle on this, he was a prophet, one amongst many, who were I suspect natural leaders and teachers and used their gift to observe well and inspire others. Yeah and I agree with your reference to shitstorm, because I am going to add to it, I have referred to Jesus as a hippie before now, for his reported approach of peace and understanding to me says hippy. The church, well it is known hippies aren't hot on authority.

tweakabelle -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 7:48:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: imperatrixx quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Its the far left feminist / ultra pc "government is god, Obama the messiah" crowd enacting mandatory minimums and must prosecute laws for spousal abuse (etc) that are putting the real damper on the BDSM lfestyle. I'm afraid I don't see how laws preventing women being abused by their partners and other forms of domestic violence impact on consensual BDSM/sexual activities, Sanity. And I'm unclear what the etc stands for. Could you be a little more specific for me please? Like to hold my hand and take me through your reasoning for same please? Is this the kind of thing you approve of? I'm guessing by "far left feminists" he means radical feminists. The "all sex is rape" crowd. Thanks for your suggestion. The school of thought you are mentioning - the 'feminism' of Dworkin, Ryan, Raymond et al - is about as relevant to most feminists as Phelps and WBC is to Christians nowadays. It was an embarrassing dead end that has been dying off since the 1980s and is utterly discredited today. Sanity mentioned a few other qualifications too - even dragging Obama into it - so I'd really like to hear from him whom he had in mind. I'm sure Sanity would like to eliminate the suspicion that he was just airing a personal hate list. So I am hoping to hear from him soon. I'd hate to be forced to conclude that Sanity was (yet again) just advertising his ignorance of feminism, venting his prejudices and waffling on about things he knows nothing about.

slvemike4u -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 8:28:46 PM)
I wouldn't hold my breath,he has a way of being scarce when asked to expound on some remark or other.

Charles6682 -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 10:56:53 PM)
Sarah Palin and anyone who supports her would have people who are into the BDSM Lifestyle thrown in jail.She is a lunatic who on the far right fringe.The guys who support her only think with one head!

BBWinTucson -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 11:01:44 PM)
Well, now, that cannot possibly be true, since she was voted into office in Alaska, and, the majority of Alaskans are filthy perverts, who are very into bdsm and /or bdsm'esque activities. Can't throw a joint, in Alaska, without someone snapping out of the air with their whip, in fact.

Charles6682 -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 11:02:23 PM)
That is very interesting Insanity.NOT!!!!! Its the far left feminist / ultra pc "government is god, Obama the messiah" crowd enacting mandatory minimums and must prosecute laws for spousal abuse (etc) that are putting the real damper on the BDSM lfestyle. Only fools fear Christianity because among other reasons, Christianity is fading away. A person is not safe walking down a lot of streets these days, unfortunately. Used to be people were afraid of god and the devil and now people are devils with no fear at all.

Charles6682 -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 11:04:28 PM)
Why would Alaska vote for her?!I mean,I think they suffer from way too much cold and darkness.Global Warming can't happen fast enough for them in those igloos up there!

Charles6682 -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 11:06:57 PM)
No wonder Sarah Palins recent kid came out the way he did.His mother is Sarah Palin,enough said!!They have so much in common.Poor guy.

tweakabelle -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 11:10:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u I wouldn't hold my breath,he has a way of being scarce when asked to expound on some remark or other. Your policy of putting Sanity on ignore seems to be more and more appealing with each passing day mike! [:D]

Hippiekinkster -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 11:16:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u I wouldn't hold my breath,he has a way of being scarce when asked to expound on some remark or other. Your policy of putting Sanity on ignore seems to be more and more appealing with each passing day mike! [:D] It has worked marvelously for me, Tweaky!

Charles6682 -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 11:19:18 PM)
One must understand that Insanity comes from Idaho.Also the home of Larry "Tap my shoes" Craig.The same Larry Craig who likes to hang out at airport bathroom and play footsie with guys in the mens bathroom.Then when he gets asked about this,he denys he is gay.Its another problem with far right wing nutjobs like Larry Craig.Its only okay as long as no one knows about it!!

luckydawg -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/6/2011 11:49:37 PM)
are you refering to the violence against women act, that Bush signed into law? It in no way refers to "must prosecute" laws. VAWA makes crossing state lines and/or using guns in order to stalk, harrass, or commit violence against a partner into Federal Crimes. http://www.justice.gov/usao/gan/documents/federallaws.pdf Domestic violence is a state and local matter for the most part.

tweakabelle -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/7/2011 12:05:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: ORIGINAL: slvemike4u I wouldn't hold my breath,he has a way of being scarce when asked to expound on some remark or other. Your policy of putting Sanity on ignore seems to be more and more appealing with each passing day mike! [:D] It has worked marvelously for me, Tweaky! All these enthusiastic endorsements are harder and harder to ignore ....... [:D]

isoLadyOwner -> RE: Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this. (4/7/2011 12:10:26 AM)
Its obvious who the DNC loyalists want Obama to run against. Obama can't run on his record. "Extremist like Palen jeopardizes the BDSM community and sites like this" (sic). The USA has seen how Obama will govern and it looks like the President's so desperate he's sucking up to Al Sharpton for support. Obamacare is an entitlement plan for private Insurers. Guantanamo is still open. No child left behind is supported by Obama. Obama maintains the war in Iraq (he just renamed it), Obama expanded the war in Afghanistan. Obama is supporting Muslim Insurgents in Libya ($550,000,000 + so far to assist armed Muslims Rebels), Obama renewed the Patriot Act. Warrantless wiretaps and domestic surveillance were also pushed by Obama. The only change Obama brought was a third war and higher unemployment. A possum equipped with "yes" or "no" buttons to randomly decide policy would be a better President. Palin might be as awful as Obama but she might be better. Obama makes the "Decider" look good. The hypocrisy of Obama and his loyalists/apologists knows no bounds.

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