maybemaybenot
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FR to those of you who think this is a human thing vs a Middle Eastern/Islamic thing : I will preface with: Rape occurs everywhere by any and all humans. The problem is in how Government, Religion, Courts handle rapists. To deny that rape in the Middle East is not a huge problem is to put your head in the sand. To deny that rape as a crime is no different here than in the Middle East is putting your head in the sand. Have you really done any research on this topic ? < Rape in the Middle East > Because if you have, you would know that the Arab countries will not comply with the Human Rights groups in reporting rape. You would also know that rape is severely underreported due to the fact that the rape victim gets the punishment, often death. Think of the little girl who was recently raped in Pakastan and was beaten to death. That is commonplace, people. This happens at alarming frequency. The victim is punished for promiscuity, often banished by her husband, family and friends. the prevailing thought is that no Arab male would actually rape a woman, as it is a sin, so the woman must have enticed him. All you need do is Google : woman stoned for being raped. I think that is a pretty good enough reason to keep your mouth shut if you were to be raped. Please tell me where else in the world rape victims are punished for crime or killed for being a victim of crime The answer is in Islamic countries. You can say what you want, call me an Islamaphobe but the facts remain the facts and you saying it isn't so, doesn't make it not so. Find me some data to support your POV. What outrages me the most is the many people in this this thread who are trying to deny the problem. If it was happening in your own back yard or to you, you wouldn't be tossing out the.. ohhh it's just a human thing. If the US government or UK government adopted Middle Eastern policy/Law on rape you wouldn't be whistling that tune. If you lived in Sri Lanka and your daughter traveled to the Middle East to get a job as a domestic worker and was raped, beaten and tossed out a third floor window to her death, you wouldn't be whisling that tune. Popeye called them animals, what would you call some one who raped your daughter, mother or you ? Can you tell me why the rapists of this reporter are not animals, yet if someone called a rapist here an animal, no one would bat an eyelash ? Here's a little Q&A from one of the top Imams in Iran, what would you think if Bush or Blair or the Pope spewed this nonsense ? What if our Presidents Spiritual Advisor condoned the rape. Would you live in a society where rape was condoned and embraced by it's leaders ? The difference between it being a human thing and a cultural/religious thing is you will not find leaders of countries or religions or Courts sanctifying rape or giving sound reasons as to why and when it is acceptable. Q:Can interrogator rape the prisoner in order to obtain confession? A: The necessary caution is for the interrogator to perform the ‘Vozoo’ (ablution: the act of cleansing mandated by Islam before praying) first and say prayers while raping the prisoner.If the prisoner is female, it is OK to rape through vagina or anus. It is better not to have a witness present. If it is a male prisoner, then it’s OK for someone else to watch while the rape is committed. Q: Is raping of men and young boys considered sodomy? A: No, because it is not consensual. Of course, if the prisoner is aroused and enjoys the rape, then caution must be taken not to repeat the rape Yes, this is an extermist Iman, but he speaks for a whole lot of people in his country and religion. Are you aware of the problem that exists for migrant workers who go to the Middle East ? The rape of domestic workers in the Middle East has become commonplace. Let alone death or suicide due to the horrific conditions. In Lebanaon alone female domestic workers are dying or comitting suicide at a rate of more than one a week. Rape is a human thing ? That may be so, but if you are a rapist and your government/religion punishes/kills/ostracizes your victim, what's to stop you from continuing ? If you suffer no punishment or consequence why not continue ? If your government, Courts or Religion whether openly or silently endorses your crime, there is no deterent to stop.If you can avoid rape charges by marrying your victim, whether she agrees or not, why not do it ? http://zanarama.wordpress.com/2011/03/28/the-middle-easts-secret-taboo/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jan/29/dubai-rape-women-middle-east http://www.migrant-rights.org/2010/02/03/the-invisible-majority-female-migrant-workers/ http://books.google.com/books?id=E-SlpBF145UC&pg=PA22&lpg=PA22&dq=rape+underreported+in+the+middle+east&source=bl&ots=70b0lEEAYE&sig=2apk3n0zdT6eks8K7CicjX9AN0Y&hl=en&ei=GzO8TZrfCcO2tgfz4ojdBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q&f=false mbmbn
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Tolerance of evil is suicide.- NYC Firefighter When tolerance is not reciprocated, tolerance becomes surrender.
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