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Stank control - 4/30/2011 2:50:26 AM

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While this may prove to be humorous, it's also serious. The ever-so-taboo topic of feminine odor.

It's pretty amazing that one can spank, whip, verbally humiliate, or other wise use a female submissive from here to hell and back. However, if or when a word is mentioned about a problem going on with feminine odor...it can have them sent bonkers over the edge of the world.

As a Male Dominant, I have yet to discover any tactful way with words to subdue the over the edge reactions that tend to occur. I'm rather resolved to the fact that I'm more than likely delivering a loaded verbal bomb.

Seriously, there have been moments in my life where I was gasping for air and where the fan of fresh air was my best friend. Moments, when I myself wanted to play with gas masks being the one wearing it.

What puzzles me is that some women don't seem to notice the change in the smell of things going on. This has been a bit of an unsolved mystery?

My question is how does everybody else deal with this issue? From either side of the D/s and gender coins? Some of the TV commercials lately have been reminding me of this topic.

Some women seem to keep and stay on top of this without any question. Clearly this is an issue because a few of the Bi-Sexual women I've been with have bitched about Stank too.

I can't begin to imagine what this must be like for male subs attempting to broach this matter with a Domme partner.

Like I said, some of the feminine hygiene commercials on TV have been reminding me of this topic lately...so I thought I'd post. I'm actually very thankful for TV commercial addressing feminine odor issues, at least making this subject easier to accept, talk about and deal with.

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 3:39:15 AM

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May I add that some men have really smelly genital oder also? The solution is to take a shower together before play. It's sensual and will make sure she, and you are smelling fresh and clean.

As to those products you see on TV, many women can't use them. They cause allergic reactions in many.

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 3:48:44 AM

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Sounds like you like you don't get down and dirty too often? I would ask if your parnter has a yeast infection or something else that creates that smell? From what i understand as long as it is clean, it shouldn't smell. I've never had any complaints, but for fun there is always a little scope mouthwash!

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 4:09:37 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressHeaIs
Sounds like you like you don't get down and dirty too often? I would ask if your parnter has a yeast infection or something else that creates that smell? From what i understand as long as it is clean, it shouldn't smell. I've never had any complaints, but for fun there is always a little scope mouthwash!

At the moment, I'm not with nor own anybody. There is one specific relationship I had which this became rather problematic. This was not a problem for the longest time however grew into one.

I actually prefer to take a shower and get squeaky clean before and often after playing. If I feel my own hygiene is a little off, I'll snag a shower before hand. If somebody was into stanky balls and such I might make an exception to it. LOL

Mind you I'm an Aquarius and I simply love water.

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 4:13:04 AM

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ORIGINAL: peppermint
May I add that some men have really smelly genital oder also? The solution is to take a shower together before play. It's sensual and will make sure she, and you are smelling fresh and clean.

As to those products you see on TV, many women can't use them. They cause allergic reactions in many.

I did not realize this about allergic reactions, thanks for sharing. In regards to showers...I'm 100% with that.

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 5:25:57 AM

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Gawd... I'm just sitting here thinking WTF.
I've just started a thread on this topic?

Then again, I'm hard pressed to come up with
much of anything new and different.

Been using this message board for so long
it ain't funny. The same old same old topics
have spun by my eyes what seems like a
million times now.

Note to self - come up with something way
better next time and try to cover some aspects
which don't get mentioned nor talked about much.

I wish there was some facet, that I was interested
in knowing more about and I'm just dumb founded
in that department as well.

I'm not in the middle of any BDSM D/s relationship
issues, so yeah... not a cause for me to be seeking
out anything in the way of advice.

Perhaps I should start cranking out Erotic writings
just for the Hell of it, for wanking material. LOL

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 5:50:44 AM

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I enjoy the new topics. Thanks for starting one that was a little more serious than the wanker ones.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

Gawd... I'm just sitting here thinking WTF.
I've just started a thread on this topic?

Then again, I'm hard pressed to come up with
much of anything new and different.

Been using this message board for so long
it ain't funny. The same old same old topics
have spun by my eyes what seems like a
million times now.

Note to self - come up with something way
better next time and try to cover some aspects
which don't get mentioned nor talked about much.

I wish there was some facet, that I was interested
in knowing more about and I'm just dumb founded
in that department as well.

I'm not in the middle of any BDSM D/s relationship
issues, so yeah... not a cause for me to be seeking
out anything in the way of advice.

Perhaps I should start cranking out Erotic writings
just for the Hell of it, for wanking material. LOL

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 6:12:58 AM

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I'll preface my comments by mentioning that I have a hyper acute sense of smell. That said, twice I've had real issues with this.

Once was a gal, pretty, together, meticulous and clean, but when she really sweated her shit was rank. The second was a gal who suffered from the stinkiest pussy, the shit was just unsavory, not just the smell but the fact that it was so prevalent.
Both times I couldn't work my way around it. The first one I tried, but the B.O made us physically incompatible. And the second, I, Kana, the bad ass bitch of the my own imagination, fled for the hills where I huddled like a frightened beast and prayed for her not to call.

Now, to be clear, I was tactful about how I handled shit. I did NOT say, "Babe, your shit stinks like a landfill," but rather stuck to the safer, vaguer "Bad chemistry", "Not really feeling the electric connection" etc...neither of which was a lie. :-)

People talk about fetishes all the time. I have two real physical hangups. One is smell. The other is skin.
And I'm not trying to be a dick and call out anyone with bad skin or B.O. (Hell, I got B.O. everyone does), but it is the way I'm wired and I can't really help that, in the same way a gay person can't make themselves ungay, I can't really control those base likes/dislikes.

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 6:25:09 AM

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And of course, just because she smells bad to you, doesn't mean she won't smell like a sex goddess to the next guy. Smell is one of those things that is individual to us. And we can't change our reactions to smells. I wouldn't say that "bad chemistry" is a lie in this case, I would say that it is literally the truth.

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 6:35:33 AM

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This is basically a cleanliness thing and can be kept to a minimum by washing which is really the best thing to do instead of using the odor products available. Think about it, have you ever walked into a bathroom that someone just used and sprayed air freshener over the top of the smell that was there to begin with? The spray doesn't help and can actually make everything worse. Eau de lilac on top of feces is not good. Plus, you don't want the odor products being used before you are intimate with someone...would you spray your dinner plate with lysol before you sit down to eat? Whatever she's got on herself is going to end up on you. Not to mention the genital membranes will absorb any chemicals placed on or around them.

If odor is an issue find a diplomatic way to get her to wash first but please don't ask her to douche, that's not a good thing to do as it upsets the pH of the vagina. Besides, if washing the labia and outside of the vagina doesn't take care of odor, then she needs to go to the Dr. as something else is wrong. Vaginas have an odor just like the rest of our bodies but anything overwhelmingly unpleasant means there is a medical problem.

It's just like any other area of the body that is closed off to circulating air, such as an armpit. Natural body secretions and their accompanying normal smell will accumulate more in a closed area. Any area where skin touches skin tends to accumulate more odor. When my arms were broken and I couldn't move them, more secretions/smell built up on the area where my arms lay against my body, drove me crazy and made me really self-concious but there wasn't much I could do. Plus the crotch area is generally covered by clothing as well, this doesn't help. Guys can and do have odor problems as well due to the same types of conditions but their genital areas usually get more air circulation than the female variety because of the way women are made. To sum up there is always going to be a normal odor, if it bothers anyone then wash a bit more frequently or at least before getting close to your partner.

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 6:39:39 AM

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Ok... well here's the dealio.

First, women have a stronger sense of smell than guys do. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/1796447.stm

So what you are smelling, we experience at a stronger level.

There are a number of things that can change a woman's body odor - what she eats, time of the month, how much sleep she's getting, use of powders / oils / lotions, yeast infections, stress, cleanliness, sweat, fear response, allergy to soap, general cleanliness (herself AND her clothes) etc. That list is from my own personal life. I have a tremendously strong sense of smell (the stories I could tell!) and know how my body is doing based on my own odor. I've realized what I need and what I should avoid in order to smell (what I consider) good.

Also, we don't have the "air conditioning" that fellows have, particularly if a woman has thighs that rub together. This is not necessarily a weight issue, but more a body type issue. How many women actually have a space between their legs at vagina level? So even if we go commando under a dress, we would have to sit with legs apart in order to get the possibility of air conditioning. Yeah, that's gonna happen. Y'all can wear boxers (or nothing) with your shorts.

I've certainly worked with plenty of women who deliberately allowed that part of their body to collect odor rather than deal with their sexuality.

I expect age and hormonal level has something to do with it as well. This one I don't know... I haven't the experience in this area, but the others I've listed are things I've realized over the years about my own body.

Finally, sometimes someone just plain smells bad to you. It's not that they stink, it's that their scent does not have a positive connotation (Kanatation?) to you. That's just pheromones.

The other thing is, I think that our society has turned oder of any kind into a phobia. People are scared to death to not smell like strawberries, vanilla, lemon, cucumbers, etc. It's like we have a kitchen in our soap. If it's not the kitchen, then it's flowers - lavendar, jasmine, cherry blossoms, etc. Why can't we just smell like... you know ... PEOPLE.

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 6:43:16 AM

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May I add that some men have really smelly genital oder also?

So glad someone else has noticed this. When I've mentioned to men that giving oral is a real problem if a man's "area" stinks, there is usually an astounded reaction to the idea that men, unlike women, aren't always yummy.

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 6:44:25 AM

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There is also, as was said before, the issue of a possible yeast infection. Some women are more prone to it than others (I am thankful I havent had to deal with that).

Diet can also have an impact (remember that certain foods can make sperm taste different..). People process dietary intake differently (lactose intolerant for instance).

although I don't have any cites for this, I dont see that dietary-to-scent issues with some foods would be strictly a MALE thing.. and that it may manifest in many ways, including malodor in intimate places.. male or female..

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 6:44:54 AM

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And... if you have to say... Honey, that's a yeast infection... You need to go get some athlete's foot medicine. (Vagisil actually works really well)....

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 6:47:01 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressHeaIs
Sounds like you like you don't get down and dirty too often? I would ask if your parnter has a yeast infection or something else that creates that smell? From what i understand as long as it is clean, it shouldn't smell. I've never had any complaints, but for fun there is always a little scope mouthwash!

At the moment, I'm not with nor own anybody. There is one specific relationship I had which this became rather problematic. This was not a problem for the longest time however grew into one.

I actually prefer to take a shower and get squeaky clean before and often after playing. If I feel my own hygiene is a little off, I'll snag a shower before hand. If somebody was into stanky balls and such I might make an exception to it. LOL

Mind you I'm an Aquarius and I simply love water.

First, I will say that if a man doesnt shower before hand, Im not dipping low. Just how Im wired.

Second, I want to shower before hand too! A few exes remarked that I was always horniest after a bath. They never realized I bathed/showered because I was horny.

Third, I dont see why a man cant just up and say... baby? no offence, but your scent is a bit strong.... A woman would take that information and do something about it. A child will stomp her feet and demand to know why you think she stinks. A good weeding tool, if you ask me.

And fourth, thank you for the thread. Its something couples never talk about (from experience) and some who read may realize they need to take their own health and cleanliness into consideration.

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 6:58:27 AM

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It isn't always a "cleanliness" thing.

Generally speaking if a woman has a strong "fishy" smell she has BV. Bacterial Vaginosis.
It is similar to the misnomered yeast "infection".
There is no real infection in either case, just something is out of whack: an overgrowth of flora or normal bacteria that are already naturally present but now are out of balance.

And for me, if I am coming down with or have some sort of acute illness I get horrendous B.O. .

Some people something fungal under their arms that make them smell funky, but don't give them the typical itchy rashes.

If it is someone you like and care about then the thing to do would be mention it and suggest they see their doctor and not just blow them off or put up with it.

(Oh, if someone has kidney or liver disease, the odor of their sweat can reflect that as well, as those organs aren't processing the toxins and they aren't being excreted through normal means.)

edit to clarify it's fast response

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 7:00:57 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

And of course, just because she smells bad to you, doesn't mean she won't smell like a sex goddess to the next guy. Smell is one of those things that is individual to us. And we can't change our reactions to smells. I wouldn't say that "bad chemistry" is a lie in this case, I would say that it is literally the truth.

Well said. As we were made aware at school during my 2nd qualification, the phrase (not sure if it is common in the US but it is a common one in Germany) "I cant smell him/you" has a reason and does not only have the meaning "I don't like him/you" but actually that it is sometimes exactly that meaning. Sometimes it simply isn't a fit, also at other times (e. g. at a workplace) we also might overreact to others body odour as we are already not keen on that particular person and so are more likely to notice anything negative on that person to put that person down again, which might not necessarily be taken in such a way by another person.

Last but not least at a previous workplace many years ago a colleague kept moaning about the body odour from a colleague (which had not bothered me) and later she concluded that this might be related to the diabetes that colleague has. (I don't know if that is true for people who have diabetes, but that was her conclusion).

So sometimes just the word "shower" is not the answer or not the only answer.

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 8:02:40 AM

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How accurate is yogurt thing w/regards to pH? I don't mind a strong smell, short of a yeast infection, but my ex's body chemistry and mine just did not mesh - if I didn't wash off immediately, the skin under my pubes would itch furiously and maddeningly - it wasn't jock itch, which I used to get when I lived in more humid climes, this really didn't have any of the other dermatological symptoms of jock itch, just that constant itching.

It might have been some skin fungus, I dunno, I think it was a pH issue, but it was an issue.

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 8:46:51 AM

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Masturbation is another important means of getting things clean down there.

Women produce some vaginal fluid all the time, it dries up and gets nasty.

Masturbation is like natural douching, and an oil change simultaneously.

That, a good shower, and regularly trimming keeps things nice down there.

Eating less meat and a lot of fresh foods also helps.

Also wearing cotton undies ;)

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RE: Stank control - 4/30/2011 11:00:04 AM

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I do all the things you aren't supposed to and I am not going to change. Imagine that.

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I douche twice a month with a vinegar and water usually, and I love it, makes me feel superfresh. I have never ever had a yeast infection and I have been doing this for over 20 years.

I also use deadorant soaps down there, and I know we are "supposed" to do that either, but I like the squeaky clean feeling. I take two showers a day and drink tons of water, and fresh produce and I can tell in an instant just by the color of my urine if I need more hydration or fruits, etc.

Smelling bad is not an option for me, I am a bit obessesed about it, I carry wet wipes in my purse and I use them frequently to wipe, they are so awesome for that especially if you are out to dinner or something and want to get really fresh/clean for a lttle impromptu make out session ;-) I don't know, I just like to know that I am always on top of that "situation."

If my man smelled off I would not hesistate to tell him, I have told him in the past he needs to go shower off some of that funk in a playful way after mowing the lawn or something for example, I know long before I get to ball-town if he needs some scrub time.

Yeah I know, I am going to hear about the bad douching thing, but I am still going to continue doing it, sorry ladies.

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