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Sanity -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 9:58:12 AM)


I am consistently in far better company that your peers are domi




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 9:59:15 AM)

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In fact, sometimes it seems that being insulting is all that leftists have to offer

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

As much as I love our current president........ being ahead of anything the Republicans have come up with isn't anything to brag about...[:D]


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

LOL... I so agree, LT... its a rather pathetic field.



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RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers - 5/8/2011 9:05:27 AM


Now, now, don't be an absolutist. There are two left leaning posters who actually offer more, and thats just off the top of my head...there are probably one or two more.




Louve00 -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 10:02:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Scroll back a page or so, then look in the mirror Louve. You accused me of being insulting when between you and I only you were being insulting.



Again, there is a difference between an insult and saying something that offends you.  I apologized for saying you were confused.  I didn't "call you'' confused.  It wasn't a name, or the label you said I pasted on you.  It was a response to what ''win'' you thought the birther's had when I thought it was far from a ''win'' of any kind.  You were free to counter that, but you instead chose to say I insulted you, so I apologized.

If you think a rant is an insult to you, then I'm not sure how to explain a rant other than its a constant, nagging bicker to bring about a point to someone who either isn't listening or won't indulge it.  I rant too, Sanity.  I rant about birthers, I rant about people who twist a living will into a death panel.  But if anyone wanted to accuse me of ranting on those things I would not take them as insults...it would just be what it is.  A disagreement.  Calling you names would be insulting.  I don't recall calling you a name.  And I even conceded when you thought being confused was an insult.  If you're that senstive (again, not an insult, but this time an observation of how you feel to a response), then I best just treat you with kidd gloves and leave you alone.

Have a great day, Sanity.  Enjoy that coffee and I'm glad you're happy today!! [:)]




DomKen -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 11:32:17 AM)


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It is a Constitutional requirement that the president be a citizen Louve, so why did the most transparent administration ever resist disclosing it.

I am guessing that they wanted the distraction. They wanted the divisiveness... to be divisive.

They liked being able to play the race card over, and over, and over again...


Actually in the real world Obama proved his citizenship within weeks of it becoming an issue. The bigots clutched at straws to keep one of their only even marginally not about the melanin content of his skin issues alive.




Sanity -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 11:34:24 AM)


According to the racers, at least.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Actually in the real world Obama proved his citizenship within weeks of it becoming an issue. The bigots clutched at straws to keep one of their only even marginally not about the melanin content of his skin issues alive.




DomKen -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 11:34:42 AM)


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never challenged McCain status so most of the above is a non sequitur.

As to the rest a Senate resolution is not hearings. There were no hearings on the issue. To prove me wrong you still have to provide the dates of the hearings and which comittee(s) they were in front of.


First, I never said, or even implied, that you challenged his status.

Second, learn the difference betwee providing information and trying to "prove" you "wrong".

Third, I said a Congressional Inquiry... not hearing. I had forgotten about the Judge's decision on this matter.

And, actually, the Senate Judicial Committee got the issue.

At a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing last week, panel Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.) asked Chertoff whether he had any question that McCain could be president.

"My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen," Chertoff answered.

"That is mine, too," said Leahy.

So everyone appears to agree. Let's see if any legislation gets passed.


http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2008/04/citizen_mccain_contd.html

So, yes, its in a Senate Comittee... and its had a hearing.

Happy now?

That is one question in an unrelated hearing. It is not hearings on McCain's citizenship. Please stop contributing to the spread of the urban myth.




DomKen -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 11:36:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


According to the racers, at least.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Actually in the real world Obama proved his citizenship within weeks of it becoming an issue. The bigots clutched at straws to keep one of their only even marginally not about the melanin content of his skin issues alive.


According to every law and government regulation about the issue liar.




Sanity -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 11:41:12 AM)


No need to get all flustered ken... [:D]

Yeah, some of you racers are really wound up tight




DomKen -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 11:44:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


No need to get all flustered ken... [:D]

Yeah, some of you racers are really wound up tight


So you won't defend your lie?




Sanity -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 12:26:08 PM)


The only lie, that it was entirely about his skin color, is yours ken.

Which that is what defines racers. Any criticism of Islam, or of Obama, or anything leftists want treated as sacred... is blamed directly on nonexistant racism.

Youre far worse than birthers in my opinion




DomKen -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 12:53:42 PM)


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The only lie, that it was entirely about his skin color, is yours ken.

You deny that refusing to accept a completely legal BC was about race? What precisely do you think it was about? It couldn't have been about the validity of the document since it was validated by the Hawaiian state government and was in the form accepted by every organization that requires proof of birthplace/citizenship.




Lucylastic -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 12:59:34 PM)

Considering you have  only used the word racers, this week, your opinion about them is moot.
Being a ditto head and malkinite gives you as much credibility as ohhh whats that chaps name, glennn something






RacerJim -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 1:37:10 PM)


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Colin Powell just blew away any respect I once had for him. From mid-2008 through last week, Obama has released five, FIVE, visually disparate, computer-generated, online images proclaiming each one in succession as his authentic birth certificate.

That's a lie. prior to last week there was a single document released. A fully legal BC.
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Now, I don't about Colin Powell, Obama or anyone else but I've only got ONE authentic birth certificate! In addition, not one of Obama's so-called authentic birth certificates has had the embossed seal of the State of Hawaii Department of Health on it as required by the Hawaii Department of Health.

Another lie. There are photos of the seal from when the fact checker websites examined the BC.
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Lastly, Obama's latest so-called authentic birth certificate shows a different attending physician than the one Obama et al have been claiming from day one. Tsk, tsk Colin...you've been had too.

Shockingly another lie. No one associated with Obama has ever stated what doctor attended the birth.


You LIE.

Here, in chronological order of their appearance on the internet, are links to each of the five, FIVE, visually disparate, computer-generated, online images which Obama/White House et al proclaimed upon release as his authentic birth certificate:

2008
1) Daily Kos short-form COLB; http://palabre.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/bo_birth_certificate-kos.jpg
2) Organizing For America/Fight The Smears short-form COLB; http://www.fightthesmears.com/images/28.jpg
3) Factcheck.org short-form COLB without seal; http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg
4) Factcheck.org short-form COLB with seal; http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg

2011
5) White House long-form COLB without seal; http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

While the first two appear to be the same image they are not -- the second one is a smaller and lower resolution version of the first one.

The first three have no visable seal, but they do have have what appears to be a date-stamp showing through from the back side -- JUN 06 2007.

The fourth one has what Obots allege is the embossed seal of the State of Hawaii Department of Health but that it's a piss-poor imitation (forgery) of what's supposed to be there is all too obvious in this side-by-side comparison: http://www.theobamafile.com/_images/COLBOfficialVsObama.bmp

The fifth one has no visable seal but if you magnify it 300-400% then scroll down to the bottom there are two concentric-circles of white artifacts centered directly below item "21" with the top of the circles passing through the right-facing arrow graphic -- an all too obvious indication that something circular originally there was digitally "whited out" with computer graphics software.

The White House says the Obama campaign requested a copy of his birth certificate in 2008: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate. If the Obama campaign didn't request a copy of his birth certificate until 2008, how/why then the JUN 06 2007 date-stamp on the back side of the first three?

No one associated with the birth of the first African-American POTUS in history has ever stated what doctor attended the birth? "In January 2009, a teacher at the Honolulu prep school attended by Barack Obama recalled discussing his birth with an obstetrician in Honolulu:": http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Note: snopes included that discussion as evidence that Obama was born in Honolulu so it's also evidence that Dr. West was the attending physican.

Amazing, the first African-American POTUS in history, and no one has ever publically stated they were present at his birth in Honolulu and no medical facility in Honolulu has publically claimed he was born there. Ooops, one hospital in Honolulu posted what it alleged was a letter from Obama on White House stationery saying he was born there but removed it a day or two later after White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs refused to verify the letter during a Press Conference. Interesting.

Facts are funny things. You can ignore, obfuscate and/or deny them but you can't refute them.





Sanity -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 1:58:12 PM)


There would have been no need for Obama to have recently released his birth certificate if your allegations had any merit

By releasing his birth certificate he was admitting that the birthers had legitimate grievances, and that he was losing the PR battle

It was all about the presidents keeping the bitter partisanship stirred up, stirring the pot, fomenting hate. When he saw that it was beginning to hurt him more than help him he finally decided to put a long overdue end to the controversy

As only he could do

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


The only lie, that it was entirely about his skin color, is yours ken.

You deny that refusing to accept a completely legal BC was about race? What precisely do you think it was about? It couldn't have been about the validity of the document since it was validated by the Hawaiian state government and was in the form accepted by every organization that requires proof of birthplace/citizenship.




Sanity -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 2:01:09 PM)


Just because youre unaware of the terms usage  doesnt make your perception of its usage a reality lucy

Racers is a fitting term for leftist ideologues such as domken and musicalmysery who try to smear anyone who disagrees with their (and your) extremist positions as racists

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Considering you have  only used the word racers, this week, your opinion about them is moot.
Being a ditto head and malkinite gives you as much credibility as ohhh whats that chaps name, glennn something







DomKen -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 2:19:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: RacerJim
You LIE.

Here, in chronological order of their appearance on the internet, are links to each of the five, FIVE, visually disparate, computer-generated, online images which Obama/White House et al proclaimed upon release as his authentic birth certificate:

2008
1) Daily Kos short-form COLB; http://palabre.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/bo_birth_certificate-kos.jpg
2) Organizing For America/Fight The Smears short-form COLB; http://www.fightthesmears.com/images/28.jpg
3) Factcheck.org short-form COLB without seal; http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg
4) Factcheck.org short-form COLB with seal; http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg

Those are different images of the same document.
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No one associated with the birth of the first African-American POTUS in history has ever stated what doctor attended the birth? "In January 2009, a teacher at the Honolulu prep school attended by Barack Obama recalled discussing his birth with an obstetrician in Honolulu:": http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp Note: snopes included that discussion as evidence that Obama was born in Honolulu so it's also evidence that Dr. West was the attending physican.

No where does anyone but you claim Dr. West was the attending OB. You need to learn to read.




DomKen -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 2:21:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


There would have been no need for Obama to have recently released his birth certificate if your allegations had any merit

By releasing his birth certificate he was admitting that the birthers had legitimate grievances, and that he was losing the PR battle

Untrue. He released a second version to completely discredit the bigots who were pushing this nonsense.

Although I do note that your response was an evasion to avoid having to lie or admit defeat on the issue of whether the first BC released by his campaign was legal proof of his citizenship.




tazzygirl -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 2:35:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


In fact, sometimes it seems that being insulting is all that leftists have to offer

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

As much as I love our current president........ being ahead of anything the Republicans have come up with isn't anything to brag about...[:D]


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

LOL... I so agree, LT... its a rather pathetic field.




Personal insults with you, I do not do. However, Politicians are fare game. And at least I have enough respect for most of them to spell their names correctly.




tazzygirl -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 2:37:41 PM)

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That is one question in an unrelated hearing. It is not hearings on McCain's citizenship. Please stop contributing to the spread of the urban myth.


The actual bill is sitting in the committee still. Now, dispute that fact as an urban myth. You asked for when the hearing was, I gave you the hearing date that the issue was brought up.




Lucylastic -> RE: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers (5/8/2011 2:41:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Just because youre unaware of the terms usage  doesnt make your perception of its usage a reality lucy

Racers is a fitting term for leftist ideologues such as domken and musicalmysery who try to smear anyone who disagrees with their (and your) extremist positions as racists



No dear boy, I checked the history of the useage of that word and you are just a dittohead. you have only used it  since Obama authorised killing Bin Laden,
AND Its to call non racists ....race baiters? WHAT a fucking joke you poor scared white boy
You have proved to be unable to tell the difference between exaggeration and the facts and truth more times than Bush failed to catch OBL
Dont pull BS on me,
No Baiting either,
so I guess its good bye





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