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jlf1961 -> Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 1:30:09 PM)
quote: WASHINGTON – The government's hunt for Osama bin Laden has left the country questioning whether the tactics used to interrogate suspected terrorists were successful and lawful. With his death, both sides of the debate have regrouped along familiar lines, claiming they were right all along. But America's greatest counterterrorism success does not represent a victory for either camp. Rather, it paints a clearer picture of the CIA's interrogation and detention program, revealing where it was successful and where its successes have been overstated. Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics This brings up an interesting point. The US will scream bloody murder if there is even a suspicion of American prisoners being tortured, but it is perfectly okay for America to torture prisoners.

ashjor911 -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 1:42:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 This brings up an interesting point. The US will scream bloody murder if there is even a suspicion of American prisoners being tortured, but it is perfectly okay for America to torture prisoners. Al-Jazeerah show Top Secret, one of people was arrested in the war on terror, UK citizen Originally from Ethiopia , was send to Morroco, & there he was tortured for three monthes, they skin his penis & put acide on it. Others where send to jordan, Pakistan, & Eygpt.

Rule -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 1:42:52 PM)
Of course the CIA tactics were successful - for them. How else to satisfy their need to torture people? Personally it is my opinion that no suspect ought ever to be questioned. Any confession by a suspect ought to be in-admissable: it will at least reduce somewhat the motivation to torture suspects.

Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 3:03:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 quote: WASHINGTON – The government's hunt for Osama bin Laden has left the country questioning whether the tactics used to interrogate suspected terrorists were successful and lawful. With his death, both sides of the debate have regrouped along familiar lines, claiming they were right all along. But America's greatest counterterrorism success does not represent a victory for either camp. Rather, it paints a clearer picture of the CIA's interrogation and detention program, revealing where it was successful and where its successes have been overstated. Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics This brings up an interesting point. The US will scream bloody murder if there is even a suspicion of American prisoners being tortured, but it is perfectly okay for America to torture prisoners. well the american guv had no problems screaming about tinneman square while at the same time they burned a 100 men women and children alive at waco. and spare me the bullshit story you like to tell about them torching themselves because we have the flir photos and we seen the guv torch the place fire upon them and then turn right around and lie about it like they do with everything.

Rule -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 3:08:07 PM)
I wonder why the whole Waco group had to be exterminated. Are all that got out alive accounted for, or were some after interrogation and / or torture offed in some basement? What did one or more of them know that most of them had to be killed? Even 'licensed to kill' 009 Timmy was involved.

DomKen -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 3:20:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 This brings up an interesting point. The US will scream bloody murder if there is even a suspicion of American prisoners being tortured, but it is perfectly okay for America to torture prisoners. It is not perfectly ok for anyone to nonconsensually torture anyone.

rulemylife -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 3:27:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule I wonder why the whole Waco group had to be exterminated. Are all that got out alive accounted for, or were some after interrogation and / or torture offed in some basement? What did one or more of them know that most of them had to be killed? Even 'licensed to kill' 009 Timmy was involved. The ones that got out confirmed that Koresh ordered the fires. But don't let me interrupt the "government is evil" circle jerk.

ashjor911 -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 3:29:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen It is not perfectly ok for anyone to nonconsensually torture anyone. Let me see if I got it the right way: its ok but not perfectly ok for anyone to nonconsensually torture anyone? Is it ok to let some Egyptian asylem seeker in Italy Back to Eygpt just to give US information about Osama? one of my frinds he was arrested, he toke only 2 whips, before they know that he was someone else, he told me if the got the third one he would confess about whatever they want. is that ok?

Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 3:30:29 PM)
David Koresh Tells The Truth About Waco

rulemylife -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 3:40:01 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne David Koresh Tells The Truth About Waco Yeah, he was bat shit crazy. Did you have any other point?

Rule -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 3:40:33 PM)
It does not solve the mystery.

rulemylife -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 3:44:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule It does not solve the mystery. That's because it's far too mysterious. It really had nothing at all to do with a crazy cult leader and his equally insane followers.

Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 3:45:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne David Koresh Tells The Truth About Waco Yeah, he was bat shit crazy. Did you have any other point? only a complete scumbag asshole would make statements without even listening to the video. aint that right.

Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 3:46:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule It does not solve the mystery. well jlf just had a waco thread I will post it there

rulemylife -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 3:53:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne David Koresh Tells The Truth About Waco Yeah, he was bat shit crazy. Did you have any other point? only a complete scumbag asshole would make statements without even listening to the video. aint that right. Why would I comment on something I had not listened to? I don't take calling anyone bat shit crazy lightly. It's reserved for those who are bat shit crazy, like Koresh. And I don't think I am going to say anything more about being bat shit crazy. [sm=modxiiswatching.gif]

Rule -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 3:54:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 it is perfectly okay for America to torture prisoners. Dr. Phil used to say that the best predictor for future behavior is past behavior. In that light, considering that the USA has always tortured and even sent torture specialists abroad to teach dictatorial regimes to do the same, if I recall correctly, it is to be expected that the USA will continue to torture.

rulemylife -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 3:58:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 it is perfectly okay for America to torture prisoners. Dr. Phil used to say that the best predictor for future behavior is past behavior. In that light, considering that the USA has always tortured and even sent torture specialists abroad to teach dictatorial regimes to do the same, if I recall correctly, it is to be expected that the USA will continue to torture. Thank God for serious intellectuals like Dr. Phil.

Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 4:15:09 PM)
here it is on waco http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=3663449 no mystery at all. just a tribute to tards fraud treason and those who sanction it.

Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 4:25:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife Why would I comment on something I had not listened to? I don't take calling anyone bat shit crazy lightly. It's reserved for those who are bat shit crazy, like Koresh. And I don't think I am going to say anything more about being bat shit crazy. [sm=modxiiswatching.gif] because it is impossible to come to that conclusion based on what was said without a gargantuous leap of imagination. (YOURS) If you want to quote how you came to that conclusion I am all ears. If you do not I accept your concession and conclude you are the one who is bat shit crazy..

bighappygoth39 -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 4:34:05 PM)
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