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rulemylife -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 4:34:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Why would I comment on something I had not listened to?

I don't take calling anyone bat shit crazy lightly.

It's reserved for those who are bat shit crazy, like Koresh.

And I don't think I am going to say anything more about being bat shit crazy.  [sm=modxiiswatching.gif]



because it is impossible to come to that conclusion based on what was said without a gargantuous leap of imagination.  (YOURS)

If you want to quote how you came to that conclusion I am all ears.  If you do not I accept your concession and conclude you are the one who is bat shit crazy..


No, I don't think you are all ears.

In fact, I'm not even sure you have ears.

Just a lot of fuzziness and those bug eyes.




Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 4:35:57 PM)

I accept your concession.




rulemylife -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 4:40:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I accept your concession.


You can't accept what wasn't offered.

But you are really a cute little fuzzball.




Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 5:02:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

I accept your concession.


You can't accept what wasn't offered.

But you are really a cute little fuzzball.



thats called concession by tacit admission or acquiescence.  go to court one time and you will figure it out real quick.




kdsub -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 7:23:25 PM)

What is done is done...it would have been foolish not to use the information gained.

That said we can only hope we as a nation have learned from our recent mistakes and assure it will not happen again... What else can we do?

Butch




lickenforyou -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 7:58:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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WASHINGTON – The government's hunt for Osama bin Laden has left the country questioning whether the tactics used to interrogate suspected terrorists were successful and lawful. With his death, both sides of the debate have regrouped along familiar lines, claiming they were right all along.

But America's greatest counterterrorism success does not represent a victory for either camp. Rather, it paints a clearer picture of the CIA's interrogation and detention program, revealing where it was successful and where its successes have been overstated.

Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics


This brings up an interesting point. The US will scream bloody murder if there is even a suspicion of American prisoners being tortured, but it is perfectly okay for America to torture prisoners.



well the american guv had no problems screaming about tinneman square while at the same time they burned a 100 men women and children alive at waco.    and spare me the bullshit story you like to tell about them torching themselves because we have the flir photos and we seen the guv torch the place fire upon them and then turn right around and lie about it like they do with everything.





The religious nuts at Waco shouldn't have fired on the ATF. Then, the ATF wouldn't have shot tear gas into the compound. So, fuck em




Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 9:17:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lickenforyou

The religious nuts at Waco shouldn't have fired on the ATF. Then, the ATF wouldn't have shot tear gas into the compound. So, fuck em



burn women and little children alive, and all you can say is fuck em?   you are one twisted low life scum of the earth pal




Rhodes85 -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 9:22:02 PM)

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This brings up an interesting point. The US will scream bloody murder if there is even a suspicion of American prisoners being tortured, but it is perfectly okay for America to torture prisoners.


Thats exactly why when the US takes prisoners they violate the Geneva and Hague conventions and never refer to them as prisoners. They call them 'disarmed enemy combatants' and try to claim it means they aren't protected under the same rights. They did the same thing to German and Japanese POW's




Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 9:34:12 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rhodes85

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This brings up an interesting point. The US will scream bloody murder if there is even a suspicion of American prisoners being tortured, but it is perfectly okay for America to torture prisoners.


Thats exactly why when the US takes prisoners they violate the Geneva and Hague conventions and never refer to them as prisoners. They call them 'disarmed enemy combatants' and try to claim it means they aren't protected under the same rights. They did the same thing to German and Japanese POW's



and that is precisely the problem with having the judicial as part of a "gubbermint".

They do the same syntax terrorism as the kings have done since the beginning of time with the law to insure they stay in power and enforce it with guns.

We the dummies establish and ordain LOL






lickenforyou -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 9:34:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: lickenforyou

The religious nuts at Waco shouldn't have fired on the ATF. Then, the ATF wouldn't have shot tear gas into the compound. So, fuck em



burn women and little children alive, and all you can say is fuck em?   you are one twisted low life scum of the earth pal



The women followed Koresh willingly and wouldn't come out of the compound after their fellow nut jobs fired on the ATF. So yeah, fuck em.

Some of the reasons authorities took notice of Koresh was because of the rumors of weapon stockpiling AND he was raping girls as young as 13. Which you seem to be OK with you scumbag piece of shit.

You want to blame someone for the deaths of those children, then blame the nut jobs who kept them in that compound. Blame the nut jobs who fired on ATF agents while they had children with them. But, then I guess that you would be blaming people who are as insane as you are.




Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 9:42:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: lickenforyou

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: lickenforyou

The religious nuts at Waco shouldn't have fired on the ATF. Then, the ATF wouldn't have shot tear gas into the compound. So, fuck em



burn women and little children alive, and all you can say is fuck em?   you are one twisted low life scum of the earth pal



The women followed Koresh willingly and wouldn't come out of the compound after their fellow nut jobs fired on the ATF. So yeah, fuck em.

Some of the reasons authorities took notice of Koresh was because of the rumors of weapon stockpiling AND he was raping girls as young as 13. Which you seem to be OK with you scumbag piece of shit.

RUMORS are NOT probable cause.


You want to blame someone for the deaths of those children, then blame the nut jobs who kept them in that compound. Blame the nut jobs who fired on ATF agents while they had children with them. But, then I guess that you would be blaming people who are as insane as you are.



Your lack of knowledge on the matter is fucking appalling and  completely fucked up!  Koresh invited them into inspect the place.

Well there you go that justifies MURDERING them all now doesnt it.

Face it pal you are a fucking psychopath.




lickenforyou -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 10:08:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: lickenforyou

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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ORIGINAL: lickenforyou

The religious nuts at Waco shouldn't have fired on the ATF. Then, the ATF wouldn't have shot tear gas into the compound. So, fuck em



burn women and little children alive, and all you can say is fuck em?   you are one twisted low life scum of the earth pal



The women followed Koresh willingly and wouldn't come out of the compound after their fellow nut jobs fired on the ATF. So yeah, fuck em.

Some of the reasons authorities took notice of Koresh was because of the rumors of weapon stockpiling AND he was raping girls as young as 13. Which you seem to be OK with you scumbag piece of shit.

RUMORS are NOT probable cause.


You want to blame someone for the deaths of those children, then blame the nut jobs who kept them in that compound. Blame the nut jobs who fired on ATF agents while they had children with them. But, then I guess that you would be blaming people who are as insane as you are.



Your lack of knowledge on the matter is fucking appalling and  completely fucked up!  Koresh invited them into inspect the place.

Well there you go that justifies MURDERING them all now doesnt it.

Face it pal you are a fucking psychopath.


He invited them to inspect his guns 6 months before they arrived to execute a LEGAL search warrant. Gee, a criminal wouldn't hide what he didn't want the ATF to see would he? You fucking idiot.

And, I notice you didn't mention the raping of 13 year old girls you sick prick




subfever -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 10:15:27 PM)

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You want to blame someone for the deaths of those children, then blame the nut jobs who kept them in that compound. Blame the nut jobs who fired on ATF agents while they had children with them.


So then, because these children had "nut jobs" for parents, the children deserved to die?




Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 10:20:12 PM)

really?  lets see your source on that.  no kids were raped.


the invite to look around was up to one day prior to the massacre.

government agents came and left as they pleased as long as they called him and made arrangements first.

when they came in shooting then they shot back.

you justify the burning alive of 100 women and children to fix rumors none of which were true.

that is twisted sick shit by any sane persons definition.







lickenforyou -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 10:20:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: subfever

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You want to blame someone for the deaths of those children, then blame the nut jobs who kept them in that compound. Blame the nut jobs who fired on ATF agents while they had children with them.


So then, because these children had "nut jobs" for parents, the children deserved to die?


No, but the people who fired on the ATF put the children in harms way. The ATF is supposed to do what in that situation? Not fire back? Just leave and say "never mind you're shooting at us but we'll just forget about the whole thing."




FirmhandKY -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 10:23:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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WASHINGTON – The government's hunt for Osama bin Laden has left the country questioning whether the tactics used to interrogate suspected terrorists were successful and lawful. With his death, both sides of the debate have regrouped along familiar lines, claiming they were right all along.

But America's greatest counterterrorism success does not represent a victory for either camp. Rather, it paints a clearer picture of the CIA's interrogation and detention program, revealing where it was successful and where its successes have been overstated.

Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics


This brings up an interesting point. The US will scream bloody murder if there is even a suspicion of American prisoners being tortured, but it is perfectly okay for America to torture prisoners.

Let me know when the jihadist stop killing innocent people in order to make a political statement, and when they stop cutting off the heads of their captives ...

Firm




Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 10:25:02 PM)

you dont get it.

you dont know shit about it for fuck sake.

the atf shot first

people that tried to escape were shot in the fucking back trying to climb the fence to get out.

Never mind we know, you are another news media educated keyboard genuis.




lickenforyou -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 10:26:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

really?  lets see your source on that.  no kids were raped.


the invite to look around was up to one day prior to the massacre.

government agents came and left as they pleased as long as they called him and made arrangements first.

when they came in shooting then they shot back.

you justify the burning alive of 100 women and children to fix rumors none of which were true.

that is twisted sick shit by any sane persons definition.



Here's a New York Times story about Koresh having sex with girls as young as 11, which is RAPE!!! http://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/04/us/growing-up-under-koresh-cult-children-tell-of-abuses.html

What proof do you have that the ATF went in shooting first? NONE, except in that twisted, diseased, paranoid, the Gov't is out to get me, brain of yours.




Real0ne -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 10:26:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

Let me know when the jihadist stop killing innocent people in order to make a political statement, and when they stop cutting off the heads of their captives ...

Firm




you mean Kermit Roosevelt and his pals right firm




subfever -> RE: Bin Laden death reignites debate over CIA tactics (5/7/2011 10:27:07 PM)

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No, but the people who fired on the ATF put the children in harms way. The ATF is supposed to do what in that situation? Not fire back? Just leave and say "never mind you're shooting at us but we'll just forget about the whole thing."


No question that those initial shooters should have placed the childrens' welfare first. But they didn't. So at that point, a saner, compassionate, responsible ATF would have treated the children like hostages.




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