RE: Why We Love Star Trek

Collarspace Discussion Forums

Home Login Search

RE: Why We Love Star Trek

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Off the Grid >> RE: Why We Love Star Trek

Page: << < prev 1 [2] 3 4 5 next > >>

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 5:54:38 AM

BonesFromAsh

Posts: 1362
Joined: 6/17/2010
Status: offline

~fast reply from a fellow trekkie~

The word of the day, kiddies, is "Fascinating"

While the more updated versions are good, you can't top the original...in my opinion, of course.

(in reply to sunshinemiss)

Profile

Post #: 21

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 5:58:06 AM

Termyn8or

Posts: 18681
Joined: 11/12/2005
Status: offline

I agree. Though dated, it was the trailblazer. But I won't put down the subsequent incarnations of the show because quite frankly, TOS was a very tough act to follow.

T^T

(in reply to BonesFromAsh)

Profile

Post #: 22

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 6:36:54 AM

sunshinemiss

Posts: 17673
Joined: 11/26/2007
Status: offline

I thought the crew from TNG had really good chemistry. And I loved the roles of the women. They didn't really have a lot in TOS.

_____________________________

Yes, I am a wonton hussy... and still sweet as 3.14

(in reply to Termyn8or)

Profile

Post #: 23

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 6:54:10 AM

DesFIP

Posts: 25191
Joined: 11/25/2007
From: Apple County NY
Status: offline

Of course TOS was sexist. There was even a show where Kirk overcomes an evil ex classmate from Star Fleet. She's become bad because of her disappointment that women weren't allowed to be Star Fleet Captains.

_____________________________

Slave to laundry

Cynical and proud of it!

(in reply to sunshinemiss)

Profile

Post #: 24

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 6:58:24 AM

sexyred1

Posts: 8998
Joined: 8/9/2007
Status: offline

I am embarrassed to admit that one of my first teen crushes was on Capt. Kirk, William Shatner.

I had his poster on my ceiling so I could look up at him and imagine all sorts of deviant things he could do to me.

I loved the original show, but never got into the later ones.

As Sunny mentioned earlier, I am obsessed with Twilight Zone. It actually factors into my daily life in one form or another. :)

(in reply to DesFIP)

Profile

Post #: 25

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 7:06:39 AM

hejira92

Posts: 2272
Joined: 10/27/2005
From: Palm Beach County, Fl
Status: offline

Star Trek- where to start.

As a kid, one of the car games in my family was naming episodes, plots, which season and who wrote it (this was of course, TOS only, as I am very old). So, I used to have it all memorized. I can still tell you that the episode with Joan Collins in the 1930's was called "City on the Edge of Forever" and was written by Harlan Ellison.

TNG was great- "Measure of a Man" is one of my favorite episodes as well. But my all time favorite has to be "The Inner Light". (For those less nerdy than me- it's the episode in which the probe enters Picard and he lives through an entire lifetime on a planet that turns out to have died 2000 years ago. It's when he learns how to play the flute.)

I really adored DSN- after the first few seasons. Then, it became deeply engrossing and political and the characters grew into three dimensional.

I really tried to like Voyager, but it lost me after a season or two. I just didn't care. And Enterprise was unwatchable from the beginning. I mean, c'mon, a Vulcan in skintight catsuit and heels? Illogical.

_____________________________

Property of Cuffkinks

Member:
The Pimpettes
MoGa's IN-Crowd

"You're the gleam in my eye, the smile on my face and the bulge in my pants" - Cuffkinks

(in reply to sunshinemiss)

Profile

Post #: 26

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 7:08:56 AM

hejira92

Posts: 2272
Joined: 10/27/2005
From: Palm Beach County, Fl
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I am embarrassed to admit that one of my first teen crushes was on Capt. Kirk, William Shatner.

Funny, one of my first crushes was Spock. But then, I was always the John, not Paul type of girl. (and Mike over Davey, too. lol)

_____________________________

Property of Cuffkinks

Member:
The Pimpettes
MoGa's IN-Crowd

"You're the gleam in my eye, the smile on my face and the bulge in my pants" - Cuffkinks

(in reply to sexyred1)

Profile

Post #: 27

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 7:09:10 AM

sunshinemiss

Posts: 17673
Joined: 11/26/2007
Status: offline

quote:

"The Inner Light". (For those less nerdy than me- it's the episode in which the probe enters Picard and he lives through an entire lifetime on a planet that turns out to have died 2000 years ago. It's when he learns how to play the flute.)

Love. That. Episode.

And just as an aside - how many people are equally or more nerdy than you, my friend? *smooch
But, hey, you're out of this world!

_____________________________

Yes, I am a wonton hussy... and still sweet as 3.14

(in reply to hejira92)

Profile

Post #: 28

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 7:22:05 AM

sunshinemiss

Posts: 17673
Joined: 11/26/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: hejira92

Funny, one of my first crushes was Spock. But then, I was always the John, not Paul type of girl. (and Mike over Davey, too. lol)

Yes, I loved Mr. Spock. He was my first crush, too! *squee* And I"m a John-not-Paul gal (I often wondered if the Pope just couldn't decide

He was Bi-Beatual)... You lost me though at Mike... Micky, baby.

_____________________________

Yes, I am a wonton hussy... and still sweet as 3.14

(in reply to hejira92)

Profile

Post #: 29

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 7:30:30 AM

MasterG2kTR

Posts: 6677
Joined: 8/7/2004
From: Wisconsin
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Hello Termie - This episode is (I believe) from the first season. Maybe the second. I, too, loved all the ways of looking at things. The black/white face thing from TOS was a great example of showing the nonsense of prejudice.

That episode has to be second season or later.....Riker never had the beard in the first season

quote:

I could go on and on, but then people will think I'm even more of a dweeb than I really am - I just love the philosophy, the creativity, the moral dilemmas that were a part of the shows. And Gene Roddenberry - what a brilliant man.

best,
sunshine

Absolutely right!!

....and for what it's worth.....I enjoyed every one of the series (not so much Enterprise though) and TNG was by far my favorite. One thing the newer series offered over TOS was continuity.

Termy hit the nail squarely on the head too. All of the shows dealt with metaphoric presentations of current world socio-political issues every time.

I am really hopeful that the new movies will spawn yet another revival of Roddenberry's brainchild. The biggest fear though is that some schmuck like Berman will be at the helm ripping the heart out of it and trashing it again. Star Trek (when viewed objectively) has proven to be one of the most innovative and culturally correct shows ever. And, as strange as some may find it, much of today's technology is actually due to Gene Roddenberry's vision of the future. You have to remember that he started writing most of the Star Trek novels back in the late 50's and early 60's which is pretty amazing looking at where we are today.

(in reply to sunshinemiss)

Profile

Post #: 30

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 7:37:12 AM

sunshinemiss

Posts: 17673
Joined: 11/26/2007
Status: offline

Yep - season 2. Episode 35 according to Wikipedia.

_____________________________

Yes, I am a wonton hussy... and still sweet as 3.14

(in reply to MasterG2kTR)

Profile

Post #: 31

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 8:07:03 AM

Tantriqu

Posts: 2026
Joined: 12/29/2006
Status: offline

Amen!
Although Roddenberry must be spinning in his orbit for how they've f'd up with the new movies: women as objects and sacrifices only: truly frightening steps backwards to entertain the testosterone. Best of a bad lot movie: parts of 'First Contact' with the Borg Queen giving damn Data a blowjob, and Picard going all Ahab.

How would the universe have changed if the network/focus groups had let Majel Barrett have the Spock role?
Roddenberry's world of cellphones, floppy disks, desktop networks: amazing.
But still the best episodes are the most human:
'City on the Edge of Forever' with the sacrifice of two people for an entire future: brilliant.
Same but less brutal in 'Lessons' ST:TNG, and Picard's single tear as he is being assimilated as Locutus
ST:V: 'Drone', with the hot Ensign Mulcahey as DNA donor
ST:TAS: The gentle but deep regrets of 'Yesteryear'
Not much to like in Deep Space Nine or Enterprise . . . the first too religious and the second too nihilistic: but I did enjoy the E 'Unexpected' where male engineer Tripp gets pregnant.

But the sappy line that resonates the most with me is from a very non-PC episode of the original 'The Paradise Syndrome': 'Each kiss is as the first'. How lucky I was to meet a man like that!

Thanks! That was fun.

quote:

ORIGINAL: hejira92
Star Trek- where to start.
color]

(in reply to hejira92)

Profile

Post #: 32

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 10:45:40 AM

Zonie63

Posts: 2826
Joined: 4/25/2011
From: The Old Pueblo
Status: offline

I've always been a fan of Star Trek myself, but mostly TOS and TNG. I lost interest in DS9 within the first couple of seasons and never really could get into Voyager or Enterprise. I didn't care much for the reboot, Star Trek '09.

(in reply to Tantriqu)

Profile

Post #: 33

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 12:03:34 PM

DomKen

Posts: 19457
Joined: 7/4/2004
From: Chicago, IL
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: hejira92

Star Trek- where to start.

As a kid, one of the car games in my family was naming episodes, plots, which season and who wrote it (this was of course, TOS only, as I am very old). So, I used to have it all memorized. I can still tell you that the episode with Joan Collins in the 1930's was called "City on the Edge of Forever" and was written by Harlan Ellison.

I use to go to SciFi cons and enjoyed the late night game of identifying ST:TOS episodes based only on the teaser opening.

The only writer and episode I know off the top of my head is David Gerrold and "Trouble with Tribbles."

(in reply to hejira92)

Profile

Post #: 34

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 12:15:59 PM

NocturnalStalker

Posts: 3858
Joined: 12/4/2010
Status: offline

I always hated sci-fi like Star Trek/Star Wars and all that other stuff. It is all just silly to me. What's with those suits? How 1970's. Then you got their spaceship which looks like a dinner-plate that grew legs or something. You know who was a queer? Data.

Come to think of it, I hate aliens in general. It always turns out to be super lame. The only movie that had a cool alien was ingeniously titled, "Alien." Outside of that series, this sub-genre could die off and I would never care. More dystopia please.

_____________________________

"The road I walk is paved in gold to glorify my platinum soul."

(in reply to Termyn8or)

Profile

Post #: 35

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 7:14:05 PM

Termyn8or

Posts: 18681
Joined: 11/12/2005
Status: offline

From Mirror Mirror :

Spock with a beard : Ensign Stalker, your agonizer please.

T^T

(in reply to NocturnalStalker)

Profile

Post #: 36

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 9:21:24 PM

TreasureKY

Posts: 3032
Joined: 4/10/2007
From: Kentucky
Status: offline

I loved TOS when it first went into syndication. (I don't think I ever got to see an episode when originally aired.) The thought provoking story lines, coupled with the more sophisticated humor and group dynamic set the show far apart from much of the other tv fare during that time period.

I hate to admit it, but I find TOS difficult to watch now due to low production quality, campy alien makeup, and over-the-top acting. There are some jewels in TOS, but I think I've been spoiled.

While I've watched and enjoyed nearly every episode of the more recent Star Trek shows (with the exception of "Enterprise"), TNG is by far my favorite. The first few episodes are a bit painful to watch now, and they had their share of stinkers over the seasons, but it was great to see a world where dignity, intelligence, and diversity of interests are revered. Most of all, the show presented a future where the past is embraced.

quote:

ORIGINAL: CynthiaWVirginia

If they had made episodes of two of my favorite TNG books, I would be hard pressed to say which is the best, and would have to put them into categories for drama and laughter. The two books I am talking about are Q-in-Law and Metamorphosis.

Two of my favorites, as well!

(in reply to sunshinemiss)

Profile

Post #: 37

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/8/2011 9:44:40 PM

LadyPact

Posts: 32566
Status: offline

quote:

Why We Love Star Trek

Two words:

Klingon sex.

_____________________________

The crowned Diva of Destruction. ~ ExT

Beach Ball Sized Lady Nuts. ~ TWD

Happily dating a new submissive. It's official. I've named him engie.

Please do not send me email here. Unless I know you, I will delete the email unread

(in reply to sunshinemiss)

Profile

Post #: 38

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/9/2011 6:20:03 AM

samboct

Posts: 1817
Joined: 1/17/2007
Status: offline

Some of the writers for the first show included Ted Sturgeon, the aforementioned Harlan Ellison (who I think may have written a few) and Fredric Brown who won a Hugo for his story- Arena. Remember the one with the Gorn?

I wouldn't describe myself as a Trekkie, but I do like the shows. My likes/dislikes are a bit different than some of the other posters- I never could stand DS9, but I liked Voyager once they brought Jeri Ryan on board. No, it's not just because she was the hottest Trek babe ever either- although she was.... I have a hunch Star Trek runs into trouble when they let the Trekkies run the show. Enterprise was an example of that as was the last movie. Too much time traveling to deal with minor plot inconsistencies.

Star Trek was at its finest when it made you think, and the Trekkies were irrelevant since they seemed to focus on the alternate world of Star Trek and the characters. But the power of the show and the reason it crossed to much wider audiences was the power of some of its ideas. As an example, I was at a conference discussing some of the new military drone technology with a very somber gent from DuPont. I commented that I wasn't exactly happy with the notion of a push button war- where people could be killed so remotely and with so little risk to your own combatants. Makes war too easy. Not surprisingly, there's a TOS show which deals with that one- where computers play war and decide the outcome. So there's a beautiful city that's being steadily depopulated, since when the computer decides you're cooked, you get into a chamber that scatters your atoms and doesn't reassemble them. And since there's no collateral damage, the war is quite sustainable and has been going on for centuries. Kirk of course, rails against the idea as well he should. Turns out the gent from DuPont had also seen this one and had the same concerns as me.

When the Trekkies write the show, you don't get any of these big ideas- we get stuff like where did Spock come from etc. although the mating habits of Vulcans were fair game since once you've got a character like that, it's a good question. Star Trek needs its Spock, its Data, its 7 of 9 (The reason why Voyager took so long to be watchable was that without this character, the show was largely a space opera). The worst problem with Enterprise was that the Vulcan was way too human. All of the aforementioned characters let us examine an important question- what does it mean to be human? which was exactly what the clip that started this thread was about.

Sam

< Message edited by samboct -- 5/9/2011 6:21:37 AM >

(in reply to LadyPact)

Profile

Post #: 39

RE: Why We Love Star Trek - 5/9/2011 6:23:20 AM

sunshinemiss

Posts: 17673
Joined: 11/26/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

Why We Love Star Trek

Two words:

Klingon sex.

*envisioning Lady Pact throwing things at Mr. Pact while he recites love poetry.

:: swoon ::

_____________________________

Yes, I am a wonton hussy... and still sweet as 3.14

(in reply to LadyPact)

Profile

Post #: 40