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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/10/2011 10:35:41 PM   
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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/11/2011 9:23:40 AM   
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This may be the first thing that you've ever posted that I actually agreed with.

It was so unexpected, that I have to acknowledge it publicly.  Good post!

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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/11/2011 10:02:42 AM   
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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/11/2011 10:23:54 AM   
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A sub is an individual who's exploring their desires.  Any cocksucker who destroys the sub's individuality to try and impose their own template upon them is nothing less than a fucking sociopath.

Thank you very much Awareness, you're so right.

To put it simple: If a sub is not permitted to let her feelings in, she wouldn't even consider 'surrendering'.
Submissiveness is a mindthing, nothing else. And if a D is not respecting or having consideration for this, he isn't worth it. Not to be called D, not to get to play with a s.

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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/11/2011 10:33:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Too many Doms regard newbies as fresh meat to be exploited and moulded to their particular set of desires. That's pathetic.

I would say that's often a reality, for better or for worse, and I would not necessarily moralize so absolutely on the concept without particulars in each circumstance. Sometimes exploiting and moulding is exactly what "fresh meat" has in mind, too, but even still, there is an art to this, and the one-dimensional man represented in the OP, if things are as the OP claims them to be, clearly lacks the power and grace of good selection and application.


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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Anyone can take advantage of a wide-eyed sub and turn her into a cumslut for their entertainment.

I'm not so sure about that either. Anyone can do this? That places said submissive in a very passive role, akin to a wide-eyed orifice, actually, and makes all dominant men exchangeable with "anyone". In my experience, a submissive requires a particular context for this to take place; it's not granted by default, nor do many self-aspiring "doms" have the mojo to make a woman truly bedeviled for their seed or all seed.


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The ethical Dom will teach her and allow her to grow into a mature understanding of her own desires and inclinations.  He does this because he doesn't require a massive power imbalance to get what he wants.

This I can generally agree with in general company, though I must admit the term "ethical dom" is mildly nauseous, in that it connotes a certain slippery slope of universality to moral application, recognized by a pretentious highbrow—not to mention, sometimes ethical absolutes are considered boring in what is often an arena of sexual and moral iconoclasm.


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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Any [man] who destroys the sub's individuality to try and impose [his] own template upon them is nothing less than a fucking sociopath.

If that this is not what she wants, of course. Some submissives are indeed exploring, while others are waiting for the right form to pour themselves into. I'd also warn gently against throwing around expensive psych terms. The profession of psychoanalysis since Freud and Kraft-Ebbing has a creative history of doing that with all D/s enthusiasts.



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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/11/2011 12:51:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MarcEsadrian
I would say that's often a reality, for better or for worse, and I would not necessarily moralize so absolutely on the concept without particulars in each circumstance. Sometimes exploiting and moulding is exactly what "fresh meat" has in mind, too, but even still, there is an art to this, and the one-dimensional man represented in the OP, if things are as the OP claims them to be, clearly lacks the power and grace of good selection and application.
  There's a difference between a mature adult making choices and a neophyte who's not yet developed the perspective to do so.  I'm not the slightest bit interested in victims, so I naturally feel contempt toward a Dom who is.  To me, it's a reflection of his internal weakness - his inability to master a fully-informed adult with their integrity and personality intact.


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I'm not so sure about that either. Anyone can do this? That places said submissive in a very passive role, akin to a wide-eyed orifice, actually, and makes all dominant men exchangeable with "anyone". In my experience, a submissive requires a particular context for this to take place; it's not granted by default, nor do many self-aspiring "doms" have the mojo to make a woman truly bedeviled for their seed or all seed.
  A new sub is ripe to be taken advantage of.  In the intial sub-frenzy state, they'll often be easily led down a path toward an end-goal they never anticipate.

Essentially, it's often easy to get a woman from point A to point B as long as you do it by sufficiently slow degrees.  With subs, it's even easier.  Many not only want to obey but crave an authority figure who will push their limits while doing so.


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This I can generally agree with in general company, though I must admit the term "ethical dom" is mildly nauseous, in that it connotes a certain slippery slope of universality to moral application, recognized by a pretentious highbrow—not to mention, sometimes ethical absolutes are considered boring in what is often an arena of sexual and moral iconoclasm.
  Ethics is an unfashionable word in an arena which plays to notions of indulging the self as being the only good which matters.  Plus, there's a generally tendency for some Doms to try and portray themselves as being beyond any quaint notions of morality, something which generally only serves to buff their ego.

I find this reflective of the general weakness of alleged dominants in general.  While it's true that dominance doesn't imply morality or ethics, my own personal feeling is that a lack of integrity derives from personal weakness -and thus is to be despised.  In short, if one is dominant, one has no need for victims.

This arena is far less iconoclastic than you seem to think.  Underlying the awareness of their own kink, most people here merely make a show of tolerance but in private are every bit as conservative as their vanilla counterparts.

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Any [man] who destroys the sub's individuality to try and impose [his] own template upon them is nothing less than a fucking sociopath.
If that this is not what she wants, of course. Some submissives are indeed exploring, while others are waiting for the right form to pour themselves into.
  At the heart of this though is the notion of choice.  Choice is greatly influenced by the stability of the individual in question.  If a mature individual makes that kind of choice, that's their right.  However frequently such choices are made by the broken.  Once again, I'm not into victims.

Arturas' contention was that destruction of personality is an intrinsic step in mastering a sub.  I'm quite clearly saying that this is errant nonsense.  Not only does it imply severe issues on the part of the dominant, but following it eliminates a major aspect of the sub's own uniqueness.  I'm not remotely interested in women who want to be hollowed out into an empty shell for me to fill.

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I'd also warn gently against throwing around expensive psych terms. The profession of psychoanalysis since Freud and Kraft-Ebbing has a creative history of doing that with all D/s enthusiasts.
  Sociopathy is fairly well documented and in the context of the discussion the meaning was clear.  To say that this arena is full of dysfunction is not an inaccurate statement.  The fact that the broken can find someone to abuse them further doesn't imply that this is necessarily a good thing.  The tendency for people to simply say that BDSM is an unfairly disparaged community is absolute nonsense.  BDSM is filled to the brim with dysfunction, the broken, victims and narcissistic fucktards who identify as dominant because controlling someone momentarily makes them feel better about themselves.

There are also perfectly healthy human beings with integrity who just enjoy their own personal kink - however I'm very much getting the impression that these are in the minority.


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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/11/2011 9:22:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Killerangel

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I would suggest he is being hard on purpose and honestly it is not easy to be hard and use this behavior to teach you what he wants you to learn so respect him more starting now or run, either one. You will soon see that a Dom teaching a newbie is not expected to consider her feelings much like an Army Drill Sargent pays no attention to his recruits feelings while paying close attention to their physical and mental health and forward progress in their chosen path. As in this Drill Sargent example and in all like things, including new submissives, one must be torn down before one can be rebuilt into something much better. Tearing someone down you care about and/or are responsible for is not easy.

So I suggest you be patient and focus on your chosen Dom or quit wasting his time. You owe it to him.

Well wishes,
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How intriguing. I am assuming you wrote this from a personal point of view that you yourself subscribe to. Interestingly enough, I have seen a distinct lack of results in your methods within these forums. Seems rather strange to back a training method that seems to fail.

The bolded statement above is especially full of crap. Don't speak as though there is a standard practice of how Doms teach newbies, especially when your own record seems so abysmal. It's very irresponsible to speak as though there is some common way of doing things when there is no such thing.



I'm am amused from time to time by the depth and depravity of some attacks made on good people who post honest answers that do not chime in with the textbook but really wrong answers posted on most threads. I'm also amused with those who think their 2500 or greater post counts somehow make them more of an expert in this lifestyle when in fact it really means they have little time to live the lifestyle and all they have are textbook or 'feel good' or vanilla answers to very non-vanilla and sometimes complex BDSM relationship questions.

As for myself, yes I have written everything I posted from a personal point of view based on real world experience. During this rewarding experience I've met and enjoyed the lifestyle with quite a few real world submissives I met here and I am a member of the Mark club here and a very successful Dom in the Nashville area. I live with and have fallen in love with the last submissive I met here and she is a very successful woman and a very lovely one to boot. So, that might suggest to some that I am reasonably successful in the way I approach being a Dom and perhaps more successful than most here. I am certain I am known locally for being down-to-earth, real, at least decently knowledgeable and experienced although star would suggest I am the best and I've heard it said one knows the truth about a Dom only from his submissive.

So I do write only with authority from real world experience and those that know do know the real BDSM world oft times clashes with the textbook or vanilla based answers I see here. Most times they are well meaning or self serving but all very wrong. Now on the matter of the OP's post, naturally I respect everyone's right to be wrong and to post that the OP's Dom is evil or a fake or something else to that affect based only on the OP's words is just wrong because nothing the OP says really gives substance to that perspective and that view seems to be more derived from few facts and much of group or gang mentality. I suspect the OP is horrified at the way many of you have assaulted her Dom here.

So, back to the OP and her chosen Dom. Note that she does not complain she is treated like garbage or like an animal or like useless trash nor does she complain he did not first go over her desires or limits before they started this relationship. She instead says he does not consider her "feelings"; she is not "allowed to have feelings". From experience, I know that she means he is strict and demanding and showing little tolerance and most newbee submissives can be taken aback by this and might write here about it if given the opportunity even though that is very natural and standard Dom behavior not warranting the disrespect you and the others here have heaped on him or me for that matter. I suggest anyone making such attacks are doing so not out of any real understanding of real Dom and submissive relationships but as a wannabee who justifies themselves by tearing down those who honestly pose real world questions and those who present real world answers.

Continuing with her Dom, perhaps her Dom needs to address some trust issues here with her but I am not in a position to say that for sure or to be critical of Her Dom but I can BE a Dom and let her know what is more likely going on and why it is so and help her understand this is not the place to get it sorted out but to sort it out with her Dom and commit or leave. I have done so and you have not. As far as the ridiculous insults and other attacks on her Dom or me, "What, me worry?", hell no, I’m a Dom.


Correction: I fell in love with the 2nd to the last sub I met here, tammystarm (star). I think the world of you "shortblondesub" and hope you are doing well, wherever you are now.

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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/11/2011 9:46:14 PM   
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this is not the place to get it sorted out but to sort it out with her Dom and commit or leave.
of all the horseshit you post, these 22 words are the only things i have seen from you that have any merit. 22 out of however many tens of thousands ain't much, but its a start. who knows, there may be hope for you yet artie.

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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/11/2011 10:23:19 PM   
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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/11/2011 10:44:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Awareness
There's a difference between a mature adult making choices and a neophyte who's not yet developed the perspective to do so.

Slight anti-rhetorical nit: "mature adult" is not the counter poll of neophyte; that would be "expert".

There is experience and then there is lack of it. I don't concern myself with either, really. It is potentiality that has always interested me, and I find this at both poll points, in the young and the old. If one shows a bright core of desire and potential, why wouldn't you wish to consume and mould it? I couldn't care less for resumes and experiential checklists; good, raw material is far more important, and sometimes the one who contains this understands generally where he/she wishes to go with it; you need only employ force with a certain art for both parties to be fulfilled. A successful D/s relationship has more to do with mutual compatibility, not notions of uniform experience or a morality metric, for that matter. While experience doesn't hurt, it doesn't necessarily always help, either.


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A new sub is ripe to be taken advantage of. In the intial sub-frenzy state, they'll often be easily led down a path toward an end-goal they never anticipate.

That depends entirely upon the human being in question. It is my experience those new to the world of submission are curious, yes, even hungry to burn a little—but frenzied? It's no doubt the case for some, but those who have crossed my path have been very passionate, intelligent and inquisitive. I've had two young, impressionable fledglings who were quite fervent, but still in control of their winches, nonetheless. Perhaps paradoxically to this discussion, they also thought fondly of being victims to what I will call "responsible predation®".


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Essentially, it's often easy to get a woman from point A to point B as long as you do it by sufficiently slow degrees. With subs, it's even easier. Many not only want to obey but crave an authority figure who will push their limits while doing so.


If this is information you've arrived upon from first-hand experience, I can only hope you've repented and changed your wicked ways. < /sarcasm >



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Ethics is an unfashionable word in an arena which plays to notions of indulging the self as being the only good which matters.

There's no doubt a thread of absolute truth in that for a certain piece of the D/s pie, but such types usually end up winning the Darwin Award sooner or later.

Personally, many sets of ethics are unfashionable to me strictly for the reason that "ethics" are so often behind the cudgel of mainstream repudiation (and ignorance) of what I practice. D/s is not insultated from that phenomenon of "ethics", either; its very practioners (often green themselves in one way or another) routinely seek to extend its punitive tentacles well into this world, too.


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In short, if one is dominant, one has no need for victims.

Need? Of course not. But desire? Well, that is always optional, to say the least.


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ORIGINAL: Awareness
This arena is far less iconoclastic than you seem to think. Underlying the awareness of their own kink, most people here merely make a show of tolerance but in private are every bit as conservative as their vanilla counterparts.

This is true with the surface strata. Dig deeper into the motives and personalities that drive the less trodden layers beyond mere "kink" and I'm sure you will notice how very different things are, if you haven't already. Rise back up to the surface again, and you see that even "kink" itself is a rebellion from the norms of classic sexual paradigms and the stigmas they perpetuate.


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I'm not remotely interested in women who want to be hollowed out into an empty shell for me to fill.

I've never found the notion particularly vile, but rather literally quite difficult to fulfill.


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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Sociopathy is fairly well documented and in the context of the discussion the meaning was clear.

My point was that ASPD is a difficult thing to dole out responsibly over a post about what seems to be an artless jerk.


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To say that this arena is full of dysfunction is not an inaccurate statement. The tendency for people to simply say that BDSM is an unfairly disparaged community is absolute nonsense.

I think this is a patently false idea. I have never seen any indication that the BDSM world is anything more than a smaller representation of norms proportional to regular society in terms of psychopathology.


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ORIGINAL: Awareness
There are also perfectly healthy human beings with integrity who just enjoy their own personal kink - however I'm very much getting the impression that these are in the minority.

I can't possibly contend otherwise, because your version of "healthy" and mine probably don't match very well, and so in the end we would merely be comparing respective tastes and opinions in a grandiose pissing contest. I can say with relative surety, however, that those who "just enjoy personal kink" are in the majority against all other subsets in BDSM.


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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/11/2011 11:57:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

I am very new and still trying to decide if a D/s lifestyle, in some form, is right for me.
The dominant I have been seeing has told me that he simply doesn't care if he hurts my feelings with his comments, or that some of the things he says and does make me emotionally uncomfortable. When I question him, he simply says that this dynamic is simply part of this lifestyle, I need to "get over it" and I "have a lot to learn". Is this true? I have always believed that courtesy and empathy are important parts of all types of human relationships.
I am starting to think that this dynamic has more to do with him than any lifestyle, but I would like to get the opinion of those with more experience. I think this could be important to know before committing to this type of relationship.


A Master or Dom should always care for and eventually love his slave, it is at the forefront of his duties to her. Her well-being both physical and mental and a slave should never...never feel scared or concerned about asking questions, a true Dom will be happy to help you because he should want you to grow, to blossom into a slave fitting to him.

This kind of behavior screams insecure male who is using the title Dominant just to prey on those weaker than him and making himself feel better by bringing them down, again, not something a real Dominant would do.

He should care if you have an issue or bring one up and yes it is his problem, very much so, because when you take on a submissive or slave you take on their life, putting that in your hand, to love, care for, punish and correct, and also to protect and nurture them.

I'd not walk but run away, this will only lead to more hurt the longer you remain with him.

I truly think men like this have women issues, hate issues even and sneak into the BDSM lifestyle because it's easier for them to get away with such behavior, or rather, easier for them to try, don't fall victim to it.


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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/12/2011 12:20:16 AM   
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This kind of behavior screams insecure male who is using the title Dominant just to prey on those weaker than him and making himself feel better by bringing them down, again, not something a real Dominant would do.


Wouldn't that mean that they expertly took control of your mental state and managed to diminish it to their liking?  Leaving them less human and more like an amp that they can turn up and turn down to their amusement?  Effectively stripping you away of free-thought? 

Not every form of dominance is a good one, dear.  Remember at the fore that "dominate" means to control.  To what extent is up to those involved.


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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/12/2011 12:25:49 AM   
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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/12/2011 12:30:13 AM   
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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/12/2011 12:32:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

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This kind of behavior screams insecure male who is using the title Dominant just to prey on those weaker than him and making himself feel better by bringing them down, again, not something a real Dominant would do.


Wouldn't that mean that they expertly took control of your mental state and managed to diminish it to their liking?  Leaving them less human and more like an amp that they can turn up and turn down to their amusement?  Effectively stripping you away of free-thought? 

Not every form of dominance is a good one, dear.  Remember at the fore that "dominate" means to control.  To what extent is up to those involved.



I never said "Me" Nor did I state that every form of Dominance was good...perhaps try going back and reading what I actually wrote.


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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/12/2011 12:35:44 AM   
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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/12/2011 12:54:17 AM   
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A Master or Dom should always care for and eventually love his slave, it is at the forefront of his duties to her. Her well-being both physical and mental and a slave should never...never feel scared or concerned about asking questions...


Here is what you said.  Right away in your own perception dominants should be discouraged from this sort of activity because her "mental stability" would be in question.  There are people that have open profiles on here that basically want for them to be cerebrally assassinated and taken control of to be recreated as a mannequin made of flesh and bone. 

I mean, hey, you sit at your master's feet right?  A true submissive/slave wouldn't do that for me, they'd be on my lap.  See what I just did?  I applied what I like as a universal truth.  If two people consent to a "totalitarian terror" situation, good for them.  I don't agree with it either, but I also don't agree with daddy-doms and other stuff.  However I don't go around throwing out the word that every person that practices something I cannot stand is a "fake."  That's childish, even you must admit.




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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/12/2011 12:56:28 AM   
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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/12/2011 1:06:37 AM   
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A Master or Dom should always care for and eventually love his slave, it is at the forefront of his duties to her


I couldn't get past this part. You do realize there are many M/s and D/s relationships that are not built on the condition of "love". Stating that is the dominants duty to love their slave is ... well... asinine. Its a great perk, if that is what you are looking for. But its by no means a requirement for every relationship.

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RE: A sub's feelings - is she allowed to have them? - 5/12/2011 4:28:13 AM   
BeautyDebased


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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

Oh, you're gonna make me do this...

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A Master or Dom should always care for and eventually love his slave, it is at the forefront of his duties to her. Her well-being both physical and mental and a slave should never...never feel scared or concerned about asking questions...


Here is what you said.  Right away in your own perception dominants should be discouraged from this sort of activity because her "mental stability" would be in question.  There are people that have open profiles on here that basically want for them to be cerebrally assassinated and taken control of to be recreated as a mannequin made of flesh and bone. 

I mean, hey, you sit at your master's feet right?  A true submissive/slave wouldn't do that for me, they'd be on my lap.  See what I just did?  I applied what I like as a universal truth.  If two people consent to a "totalitarian terror" situation, good for them.  I don't agree with it either, but I also don't agree with daddy-doms and other stuff.  However I don't go around throwing out the word that every person that practices something I cannot stand is a "fake."  That's childish, even you must admit.





Oh boy...yes....

Every dom is different just as each couple is and what works for one may not work for another, that much is true, what I was trying to do was speak to the origional poster who is in fact in a bad situation, trying to assist her rather than comment other people's posts is far more helpful, please don't quote me.

If you dislike my opinion start a thread on it, not interrupt a thread about someone needing help.

I sit at my Masters feet, his lap, by his side on the sofa, hold his hand and so much more that I'd not have time to post it all here, besides the point it's not really anyone's business lol.

It was an "Example" and nothing more, why some need to read into and dissect everything only to criticize it is beyond me, my apologies to the origonal poster, these things tend to happen in forums hence why I'm rarely here though I do wish you luck and that you manage to sort out your situation, feel free to message me, I won't bother reading this thread again, apparently some like to attack since they have little else to occupy their minds with.

Beauty.

< Message edited by BeautyDebased -- 5/12/2011 4:45:03 AM >

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