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Affecting Water - 5/11/2011 9:06:29 AM   
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I have heard of Dr. Masaru's work and find it very compelling. We have not touched the tip of the iceberg in discovering what our consciousness and intent can manifest for us and our world.

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RE: Affecting Water - 5/11/2011 9:24:32 AM   
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RE: Affecting Water - 5/11/2011 9:32:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have not studied snowflakes, every snowflake, they are darn cute and beautiful. Maybe there is a way to see if any direct affect can be seen with snowflakes as well. I think they crystallize up in the air no? It does not refute water and the effects shown here. Are making some other point?

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RE: Affecting Water - 5/11/2011 12:36:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		"...After the lengthy review of Emoto’s research methods and results, I have come to believe that Dr. Emoto is offering pseudoscience to the masses in the guise of defensible research. Only time and review by others will tell if there is any truth at the heart of Mr. Emoto’s claims, as Emoto himself thoroughly believes in his findings but does not value the scientific method or community. What is truly fearsome is the great numbers of people that accept his words as proven facts without looking deeper to find out if his claims are truly justified. While I respect Dr. Emoto’s desire to save the Earth’s water from contamination and pollution, unless he can produce a scientific paper and get it published in a scientific journal, I believe that he will continue to be ignored by the scientific community, and his claims will never be soundly proved or disproved."

Kristopher Setchfield, BA, Health Science
Natural Science Department
Castleton State College, Vermont


Okay well, so that is something. I dont know what the truth of it all just like the author here does not either. It is another one of those que sera sera things. Time will tell many things.

I do believe we can affect change for the better with our intent. I like to think there is validity in Emoto's work with water.


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RE: Affecting Water - 5/11/2011 5:11:29 PM   
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RE: Affecting Water - 5/11/2011 9:46:50 PM   
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RE: Affecting Water - 5/11/2011 10:55:54 PM   
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RE: Affecting Water - 5/11/2011 11:44:53 PM   
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It did affect water....I laughed so hard I had to pee!


Cain ya prove it scientific like?



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RE: Affecting Water - 5/11/2011 11:51:10 PM   
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It did affect water....I laughed so hard I had to pee!


Cain ya prove it scientific like?




You want a picture of me peeing????

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RE: Affecting Water - 5/12/2011 7:18:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am not sure I believe you peeing had anything to do with this article. I think you pee your panties on the regular. I would need scientific proof but actually I dont care about you wetting your pants so no need do the double blind test on my account. Provide a link next time or your claims are not applicable or admissible.

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RE: Affecting Water - 5/12/2011 7:29:33 AM   
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"...After the lengthy review of Emoto’s research methods and results, I have come to believe that Dr. Emoto is offering pseudoscience to the masses in the guise of defensible research. Only time and review by others will tell if there is any truth at the heart of Mr. Emoto’s claims, as Emoto himself thoroughly believes in his findings but does not value the scientific method or community. What is truly fearsome is the great numbers of people that accept his words as proven facts without looking deeper to find out if his claims are truly justified. While I respect Dr. Emoto’s desire to save the Earth’s water from contamination and pollution, unless he can produce a scientific paper and get it published in a scientific journal, I believe that he will continue to be ignored by the scientific community, and his claims will never be soundly proved or disproved."

Kristopher Setchfield, BA, Health Science
Natural Science Department
Castleton State College, Vermont


Okay well, so that is something. I dont know what the truth of it all just like the author here does not either. It is another one of those que sera sera things. Time will tell many things.

I do believe we can affect change for the better with our intent. I like to think there is validity in Emoto's work with water.



Until someone takes the time to test this with the scientific method we will not know, will we?

Here is something that is interesting, the review you posted is from someone with a BA degree. I would expect someone with a PhD in chemistry, or some related field, to review his work. I have a BA degree, and only need to finish writing my thesis to get my MA, and I would not expect the scientific community to take my words about anyone as a serious critique....

Perhaps you should search more before you give up in the validity of Dr. Masaru's work


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RE: Affecting Water - 5/12/2011 7:31:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		you had that link about how we affect outcomes in the atomic world, I have since changed computers and lost it.  do you still have it, and can post it, and does it relate to this in any way, jules?

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RE: Affecting Water - 5/12/2011 7:37:38 AM   
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RE: Affecting Water - 5/12/2011 7:40:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		no, it was a video, a nova program I think, but that was another good one. 

The one where our constant observations are seen as a meddling to the atomic world and affect the outcome....

Statuesque, big tits, and brains.......who could ask for more?

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RE: Affecting Water - 5/12/2011 7:49:49 AM   
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RE: Affecting Water - 5/12/2011 7:50:51 AM   
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RE: Affecting Water - 5/12/2011 7:59:12 AM   
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Might it have had anything to do with the work done by PEAR or it's offshoot, ICRL?

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RE: Affecting Water - 5/12/2011 9:13:47 AM   
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I am not sure I believe you peeing had anything to do with this article. I think you pee your panties on the regular. I would need scientific proof but actually I dont care about you wetting your pants so no need do the double blind test on my account. Provide a link next time or your claims are not applicable or admissible.


Why don't you to provide a link to one of "Emoto"s double blind studies? Or his acceptance of Randi's million dollar challenge? Oh, you can't....because they don't exist.

He's a FRAUD. His name should give you a clue.

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RE: Affecting Water - 5/12/2011 9:19:16 AM   
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He's a FRAUD. His name should give you a clue.


What about his name should give us a clue that he is supposedly a "fraud"? Is it because he is Japanese?

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RE: Affecting Water - 5/12/2011 9:20:30 AM   
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But you remember it?   My point would have been in relation to this thread, is observing and interacting with it, changing it?



I am not recalling which particular video it was

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