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willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 9:02:39 AM)
And of course JO ducks the "chosen" question. Hopefully she at least took the time to learn what it really means, not what anti-Semites try to twist it into.

juliaoceania -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 9:15:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy And of course JO ducks the "chosen" question. Hopefully she at least took the time to learn what it really means, not what anti-Semites try to twist it into. I didn't know you cared.... how sweet!

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 9:17:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy And of course JO ducks the "chosen" question. Hopefully she at least took the time to learn what it really means, not what anti-Semites try to twist it into. I didn't know you cared.... how sweet! I always care about encouraging people to educate themselves. Continue to duck though!

juliaoceania -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 9:24:03 AM)
quote: I always care about encouraging people to educate themselves. Continue to duck though! I only know what Christian Zionists have said about "Chosen People"... which is why they continue to demand we support Israel no matter what the costs to us as a people Now, go on sniping and snarking... it is what you do best after all. I think if you actually posted something of substance it might kill you

mnottertail -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 9:25:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy I always care about encouraging people to educate themselves. You should be your own best customer, and take that advice.

juliaoceania -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 9:28:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy I always care about encouraging people to educate themselves. You should be your own best customer, and take that advice. He should post something from a source once in awhile instead of ranting on like some partisan hack

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 11:33:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy I always care about encouraging people to educate themselves. You should be your own best customer, and take that advice. He should post something from a source once in awhile instead of ranting on like some partisan hack When I do its ignored or ad hominen'd away. Its a fucking waste of time with the intellectually dishonest here. People who are open minded can research it themselves quite easily. Keep ducking.

mnottertail -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 11:40:10 AM)
And there goes the carebear routine out the door, just like all the other 'hypotheticals' he posts. He should read up on that.

juliaoceania -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 11:45:08 AM)
He hypothetically could post something that he researched, instead of opinion pieces from the Washington Post

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 11:54:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania He hypothetically could post something that he researched, instead of opinion pieces from the Washington Post You could actually defend your derogatory use of "Chosen people" or admit you didnt know what it means. Nothing hypothetical about that, since you have such trouble thinking about those difficult critters.

juliaoceania -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 11:56:36 AM)
You could hypothetically look back a few posts to what I said about it... hypothetically speaking of course. quote: Christian Zionism is a belief among some Christians that the return of the Jews to the Holy Land, and the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, is in accordance with Biblical prophecy. It overlaps with, but is distinct from, the nineteenth century movement for the Restoration of the Jews to the Holy Land, which had both religiously and politically motivated supporters. The term Christian Zionism was popularized in the mid-twentieth century. Prior to that time the common term was Restorationism.[1] Some Christian Zionists believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus. This belief is primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian Dispensationalism. The idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged to become Christian, as a means fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.[2][3][4] Many Christian Zionists believe that the people of Israel remain part of the chosen people of God, see also Dual-covenant theology, along with the ingrafted Gentile Christians[Romans 11:17-24]. This has the added effect of turning Christian Zionists into supporters of Jewish Zionism.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 12:00:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania You could hypothetically look back a few posts to what I said about it... hypothetically speaking of course. quote: Christian Zionism is a belief among some Christians that the return of the Jews to the Holy Land, and the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, is in accordance with Biblical prophecy. It overlaps with, but is distinct from, the nineteenth century movement for the Restoration of the Jews to the Holy Land, which had both religiously and politically motivated supporters. The term Christian Zionism was popularized in the mid-twentieth century. Prior to that time the common term was Restorationism.[1] Some Christian Zionists believe that the "ingathering" of Jews in Israel is a prerequisite for the Second Coming of Jesus. This belief is primarily, though not exclusively, associated with Christian Dispensationalism. The idea that Christians should actively support a Jewish return to the Land of Israel, along with the parallel idea that the Jews ought to be encouraged to become Christian, as a means fulfilling a Biblical prophecy has been common in Protestant circles since the Reformation.[2][3][4] Many Christian Zionists believe that the people of Israel remain part of the chosen people of God, see also Dual-covenant theology, along with the ingrafted Gentile Christians[Romans 11:17-24]. This has the added effect of turning Christian Zionists into supporters of Jewish Zionism. Hypothetically you could actually address the real meaning, instead of using the TG School of Obfuscation technique of a big quote that doesnt adress the question posed to you. WHAT DOES "CHOSEN PEOPLE" MEAN????? Answer it, please.

juliaoceania -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 12:02:21 PM)
I addressed what I meant when I used the term....now if that aint good enough for you, you could hypothetically piss off

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 12:04:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania I addressed what I meant when I used the term....now if that aint good enough for you, you could hypothetically piss off All you did was [mis]-use it, not address what it means. And your misuse of it simply proved you dont know what it means. But I never expected you to own up to it. [/thread]

mnottertail -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 12:07:02 PM)
Oh, I thought you were the rabbi, all about the teaching, all about the knowledge...... But no, another lie.

juliaoceania -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 12:07:34 PM)
Will, you are as non sequitur as your buddies on here... nothing illuminating, nothing enlightening, nothing of substance... just fight picking

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 12:10:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania Will, you are as non sequitur as your buddies on here... nothing illuminating, nothing enlightening, nothing of substance... just fight picking To the contrary, your acceptance of the anti-Semitic interpretation of "chosen people" and unwillingess to educate yourself is VERY enlightening.

mnottertail -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 12:27:12 PM)
It is only enlightening to you. Since you ain't got shit, done shit, don't know shit, and havent any facts, just shit. Sit there like the chesire cat, sorta jabba the hutting to yourself, and thats your schtick. But if you think that ignorance and and ill-breeding is taken for argumentation, then you sort of missed the boat like Hitler did.

Moonhead -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 1:41:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy When I do its ignored or ad hominen'd away. Go ahead and cite an example of this happening, where you've cited evidence and had people talk around it. (Or don't, but then your complaints about people ducking are going to look a bit two faced, aren't they?)

tweakabelle -> RE: Obama Backs Deal Based on 1967 Lines (5/27/2011 6:23:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail I know for a fact that you cannot prove that about jules, and I know for a fact that I can prove that she has accepted what an 'opponent' has said many times, even if she disagreed with the interpretations of its implications. You're clawing at water, pal[WOTF]. For evidence how WOTF "claws at water" in the ME debate, check out this thread. The thread was about a ludicrous allleged threat from an unidentified "Islamist website" against an Apple shop. The site that made the claim - MEMRI - was shown to be an Israeli intelligence operation run by a Colonel in Israeli Intelligence with a long history of running a pro-Zionist agenda by the UK paper, The Guardian. Not the 'interpretation service' it claimed to be. Despite the entire stunt being shown to be an Israeli intelligence propaganda stunt, WOTF stubbornly insisted that we should take the story seriously because it "might" be true. Do they make 'em any more one-eyed or gullible than that? [:D]

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