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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 11:35:15 AM   
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But tazzygrl in your case common sense = leftest.


You must be the guy the GOP has put in charge of attracting transitional democrats



LOL.... I think the same thing when I see democrats do the same thing..

Like trying to attract Green voters by blaming Nader for Gore being in a race that was so tight that a vote of one secured the white house for Bush...It rather angered me to see Green voters attacked by democrats.


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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 11:40:44 AM   
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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 11:45:24 AM   
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Heil Hitler, just in case we lose.

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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 12:02:33 PM   
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I find it interesting that the same people who claim any disagreement with a leftest black is dismissed as racism are the first ones to attack black conservatives as tokens Uncle Toms and race traitors.  They say that GOP needs to include more blacks but then says they don't count because they are GOP.  Only leftest think they can have it both ways.

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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 12:13:40 PM   
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But tazzygrl in your case common sense = leftest.


Is that bad? I don't quite understand why common sense combined with someone who stands for the issues which are important to you can't be found in one body. Wouldn't you vote for someone who did both for you?

Or, maybe it's just me. I'm bi that way.


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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 12:16:09 PM   
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I believe the Churchillian staetment that if you aren't a liberal at 20 you don't have a heart and if you aren't a conservative at 40 you don't have a brain.

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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 12:24:09 PM   
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Funny how that works aint it

I think they called Powell all of those things and more as he was serving under W

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I find it interesting that the same people who claim any disagreement with a leftest black is dismissed as racism are the first ones to attack black conservatives as tokens Uncle Toms and race traitors.  They say that GOP needs to include more blacks but then says they don't count because they are GOP.  Only leftest think they can have it both ways.


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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 12:24:13 PM   
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I wasn't saying that there was anything wrong with voting for someone if you agreed with them and they had common sense just that you can't  say that if they disagree with has no common and then that you don't support them due to their alleged lack of sense, it because you disagree with them.


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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 12:27:24 PM   
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I believe the Churchillian staetment that if you aren't a liberal at 20 you don't have a heart and if you aren't a conservative at 40 you don't have a brain.

There's a lot of truth in that view. Funnily enough Churchill started out as a conservative in his early twenties so perhaps there was a bit of self criticism in his quote!

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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 12:30:31 PM   
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But tazzygrl in your case common sense = leftest.


Hardly, thats how little you know about me. Please stop presuming.

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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 12:31:46 PM   
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Huntsman, maybe.


I dont know much about him.

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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 12:33:07 PM   
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But tazzygrl in your case common sense = leftest.


You must be the guy the GOP has put in charge of attracting transitional democrats



Or in charge of attacking anyone who doesnt goose-step to the Republican party line?

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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 12:34:40 PM   
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I find it interesting that the same people who claim any disagreement with a leftest black is dismissed as racism are the first ones to attack black conservatives as tokens Uncle Toms and race traitors.  They say that GOP needs to include more blacks but then says they don't count because they are GOP.  Only leftest think they can have it both ways.


I consider myself left leaning... show me where I have ever come close to saying anything like that.

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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 12:35:48 PM   
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I believe the Churchillian staetment that if you aren't a liberal at 20 you don't have a heart and if you aren't a conservative at 40 you don't have a brain.


Ah so now I dont have a brain... interesting. Got proof of that? Maybe a scientific study that backs up your assertion?

If not, shut the fuck up.

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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 12:37:13 PM   
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Funny how that works aint it

I think they called Powell all of those things and more as he was serving under W


Funny, I would have voted for Powell as President at one time.

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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 12:39:05 PM   
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I wasn't saying that there was anything wrong with voting for someone if you agreed with them and they had common sense just that you can't  say that if they disagree with has no common and then that you don't support them due to their alleged lack of sense, it because you disagree with them.




Common sense can equate to being able to at least name one national news paper... NY Times, WSJ...........

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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 12:40:06 PM   
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LOL.... I think the same thing when I see democrats do the same thing..


Trust me, when I call a republican a right wing kook, am NOT after his vote. They are the party that needs to woo indies and the disenfranchised the most in the presidential arena.
They might have done very well in the last mid-term. But the reality is there is a A LOT of sticker shock among the indies who signed onto the Tea Party and then found out the old school neo-cons told them to take their seats and read from the script.
   But if you believe that the democrats tell people "go insult those borderline republicans into joining us, you're higher than he is careless around perspective votes. ... I won't throw in the LOL cause i think you know I found it funny.


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Like trying to attract Green voters by blaming Nader for Gore being in a race that was so tight that a vote of one secured the white house for Bush...It rather angered me to see Green voters attacked by democrats.

   Ya know, I know we've messaged and i've offered a little family background. But I don't entirely follow the path.. so I hope I didn't mislead you, by not making my politics crystal clear. I know that happens sometimes given their history.
Funny thing... at the beginning of the two electoral cycles Ralph has been involved in, I was a supporter. he promised to tell the American people who was fucking them and name names. You will find that most of his sup[porters pulled up stakes in the first election and voted for gore. And democrats that know me weren't pitching that at all. Before or after. And I was a card carrying registrant of the Massachusetts Green Party. though, now I am listed as an independent. Do I vote democratic? yeah because most of the time, the greens or indies have presented LOUSY potential leaders within my reach. It's better in Cali I hear.
    But the only explanation I've ever heard from any real players in the democratic strategy side of things is what the press reported, the democrats reported and the supreme court denied. That there were serious issues of fraud in the 2k election.
    And I don;t know about the west coast, but I can say for sure here that the number of greens left in the east left them in a status with the democrats was "you're perfectly welcome with coming along with us. But if you don't we intend to let the voters know that a Ralph vote can only really be considered a protest vote, as opposed to a credible one".And that's a sound opinion, and not an insult to the intended recipient.
   Although, I don't know what you experienced as a green in cali, if that's in fact the knowledgeable position you're selling the Nader thing from. I would think though you'd at least have to be hanging out with the gang to hear the pitch in the first place.


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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 1:12:21 PM   
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He's an oddball.  Never held elective office, a black man more conservative than mainstream GOP.  He's got no chance in Hell, but hopefully he'll add some flavor to a bland GOP race.

Black President, black GOP challenger... amazing how much has changed in just a few short years.



Black GOP primary challengers is far from a recent change.

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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 1:14:33 PM   
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Better Palin one heartbeat away than Obama zero heartbeats away.


Death threat?


Inablility to read?

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RE: The trouble with Herman Cain - 5/22/2011 1:14:52 PM   
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At first I was like "Herman Cain? WHO is Herman Cain?"

So rather than read three pages by all of you, I just goggled the name. Got a good amount of information from just two sites: What he wants people to think and view AND What he DOESNT want people to view.

It seems his answer to dealing with the huge US debt we have is to lower taxes. I'm sure anyone with a brain will note that was former President George W. Bush's idea. And we all know how THAT went...

Likewise, his 'solutions' is not even a page long, nor specific. And he claims he is 'real'. Sorry, but President Obama is real! Mr. Obama, unlike Mr. Cain so far, has demonstrated he can accomplish much good for Americans. This 'Herman Cain' sounds like another clown for the GOP clown car...

Has Mr. Herman Cain presented his birth certificate yet? We wouldn't want 'another' black non-America-born person in to the White House, right?

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