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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

A horse can be trained one of two ways. It can be broken, very much like a woman can be broken, and all you are left with is a horse that is resentful, but obeys because its better than dealing with the abuse, until that day comes when the horse can break free... and then its gone.

Or, you can tame a horse the way so many do, including many of the spanish and the native americans, with tenderness, patience, kindness and firmness. Winning over the trust of the horse until the horse and the man, or woman, become one. This is the horse that serves out of loyalty and adoration, one who can roam off for miles, and still respond to a whistle.

There are many ways to train. Surprisingly enough, women can train in both methods just as easily as men.

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ORIGINAL: banditmel
Most anti-feminist like to spend their waking hours ranting and complaining all over the virtual world that rape doesn't exist.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

A horse can be trained one of two ways. It can be broken, very much like a woman can be broken, and all you are left with is a horse that is resentful, but obeys because its better than dealing with the abuse, until that day comes when the horse can break free... and then its gone.

Or, you can tame a horse the way so many do, including many of the spanish and the native americans, with tenderness, patience, kindness and firmness. Winning over the trust of the horse until the horse and the man, or woman, become one. This is the horse that serves out of loyalty and adoration, one who can roam off for miles, and still respond to a whistle.

There are many ways to train. Surprisingly enough, women can train in both methods just as easily as men.

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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather
We are by definition discussing consensual domination, not rape.

So, what true domination is doesn't matter in the discussion.
Ok, going by consensual on both sides?
Yes, males will opt for the physical - why? Because we all go screaming back to our DNA.
Females will opt for the mental aspect because they can't physically force a man to do anything.

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Well just actually now we're finishing up a manuscript, which actually asks the rather intriguing to me a very basic question and that is, what is the personality effect of castration? One has contemporary stereotyped that the person's a wimp afraid of everything but the eunuchs were generals, past eunuchs were, the senior diplomats, they had to be wise and firm at certain points but it turns out we actually ran on the internet what's called the Big Five Personality Test.

It's a well-established test that defines personality and we ran it for 150 eunuchs who were androgen-deprived voluntarily castrated individuals against a huge amount of other people who filled in our survey because it was posted in the site called eunuch.org and people who are interested could fill it in as well. So we have individuals who are androgen-deprived and we have somewhere like 1300 of people who identify as wannabes. They're fascinated with and liked the idea of being castrated but they haven't gone forward with it. So they're very similar personalities in terms of all these presentations of odd obsessions.

The difference is one subgroup has actually is androgen-deprived. And we actually now what it means to be androgen-deprived in terms of what effect it has in this well-validated standardized personality test. And it turns out the one thing that changes radically is agreeability goes up. Now that means unlike a person's a wimp but someone says what you want to go to this movie or that movie and they say I don't care. But it's also true that if they decide, you know I'm happy to do what you'd like. I don't need to fight over it. I will save my fighting for more important things. This is wise.

A lot of the wisdom comes from being agreeable. We suspect that was the key trait that made them so effective as diplomats, negotiators, people who could resolve a tension conflicts to prevent them from becoming worst and to allow empires to continue for generations upon generations. They provided stability. The wisdom that comes by not being reflexively aggressive, which is sort of what happens with teenage males who are high on testosterone.

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I have grown out my hair so that I have a ponytail, Peon. Just thought I'd share.

I am also thinking of a friend's colt, who is with a trainer right now. Yeah. Domestically bred horses are creampuffs. Sure.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

A horse can be trained one of two ways. It can be broken, very much like a woman can be broken, and all you are left with is a horse that is resentful, but obeys because its better than dealing with the abuse, until that day comes when the horse can break free... and then its gone.

Or, you can tame a horse the way so many do, including many of the spanish and the native americans, with tenderness, patience, kindness and firmness. Winning over the trust of the horse until the horse and the man, or woman, become one. This is the horse that serves out of loyalty and adoration, one who can roam off for miles, and still respond to a whistle.

There are many ways to train. Surprisingly enough, women can train in both methods just as easily as men.

Interesting and what is the whip for in taming or any other taming techniques that use 'patience, kindness and firmness' in circus horses from Spain etc?

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Interesting and what is the whip for in taming or any other taming techniques that use 'patience, kindness and firmness' in circus horses from Spain etc?

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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious


Jump higher, Skippy, jump higher! [:D][:D][:D]

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

What are you agreeing to? Or do you not recognize sarcasm?

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ORIGINAL: PhilSlave

Of course muscle is the best form of dominance over both men and women. It's how Governments have always ruled. When women had the same rights as lunatics it was easy for abusers to physically abuse.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Interesting and what is the whip for in taming or any other taming techniques that use 'patience, kindness and firmness' in circus horses from Spain etc?

Did I not say there was two ways?

A whip can be just for show as well, as well as a training tool that has nothing to do with abuse.

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I have grown out my hair so that I have a ponytail, Peon. Just thought I'd share.

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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

Thanks for getting back on track Awareness. ignoring the off topic things, What I'm getting is it comes down to penetration with a penis=dominance. Is that a fair summing up of your basic position?

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

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ORIGINAL: PhilSlave

Of course muscle is the best form of dominance over both men and women. It's how Governments have always ruled. When women had the same rights as lunatics it was easy for abusers to physically abuse.

My bad, I thought you lived in a civilized country where the government is elected...

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

Thanks for getting back on track Awareness. ignoring the off topic things, What I'm getting is it comes down to penetration with a penis=dominance. Is that a fair summing up of your basic position?

  No, penile penetration is an implicitly dominant sexual act, but sexual dominance is the capacity to enforce your will.  Which essentially means physical power.  Female hetero subs like to struggle, they like to feel overwhelmed and know they're being fucked by a guy who can take what he wants.  And they get off on the sense of fear this can bring with it.  Many of them - even those who've been raped - get off on the idea of rough sex and rape fantasies.

  Basically, women like to be taken.  And dominance in the bedroom is about the desire to do as you will and having the physical capacity to enforce it.  In my experience, women adore being tossed around the bed.

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ORIGINAL: PhilSlave

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Interesting and what is the whip for in taming or any other taming techniques that use 'patience, kindness and firmness' in circus horses from Spain etc?

Did I not say there was two ways?

A whip can be just for show as well, as well as a training tool that has nothing to do with abuse.

So let me get this straight the trainer shows the horse the whip and it obeys?