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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 10:21:25 AM   
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I think darq and CreativeDominant really touch on what I'm feeling here. I find myself frequently repressing my Dominant side. In darq's case, she repressed that submissive side because Dominants "take advantage" of it. Meanwhile, us Dominants are repressing that Dominant side because we don't want to take advantage.
It was a good setting for me when all submissives referred to all Dominants as Ma'am and Sir. There didn't need to be any repression of roles, because we were all happy with our chosen station.

Now, I feel like if I approached a single submissive girl (outside of a high protocol real life event), and asked her to refer to me as "Ma'am", I'd get an onslaught by her and her submissive friends of "Your not my fucking Mistress! I don't wear your collar! You have no right to tell me what to do or say or wear or think! I'm a person damnit! Not your fucking dog! I'll tell you when it's ok for you to tell me anything! You Dominants seem to think just because you call yourself a Dominant that ALL submissives are YOUR submissive!"
Wide eyes, deep breath.... Sheesh. Sorry I brought back childhood trauma by asking you to use an honorific.

So we Dominants sometimes repress that tendency to be Dominant, so as to not step on the "human rights" of submissives to be treated as equals ... um, until we're not equals. I think sometimes us Dominants are sitting around waiting to be told when that time is.

This trend confuses me. That I'm supposed to sit back and pretend to be vanilla, or even pretend to be submissive, waiting on the submissive to take the Dominant role and give me permission to now be Dominant with them, and they'll now be submissive to me. It makes me scratch my head and try to figure out what the heck is going on.
The whole concept of me waiting for a submissive to say "You may now tell me to address you by an honorific." or "You may now order my coffee for me." or "You may now xyz."
Huh? I May? How generous of you (submissive) to allow me (Dominant) the privilege of your permission.
But ummm.... isn't that kind of supposed to work the other way around?

I think this is why I find myself breathing a sigh of relief when I attend high protocol events. I get this feeling of "It's good to be home where I know what to expect. That online community, where the submissives grant permission for the Dominants to request service, was confusing the hell out of me!"


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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 10:24:46 AM   
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I can only speak for me but I don't start out as friends with people I do Ds with.... we appropriate each other as potential Ds partners and then friendship may develop.

Since I don't do online scening, I therefore do not relate to anyone in a Ds fashion online.

As far as I'm concerned, no one on this website has agreed to be or been accepted by me as my submissive so I treat them as I would anyone else. Hopefully with some respect and politeness.

As for my natural dominance that mostly comes out as a teacher I think... I'm sure you've all ready enough of it by now to know what I mean. If that offends anyone I'm sorry for that but it is unlikely to change.

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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 10:29:39 AM   
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This is one area where I would hate to be on the dominant side.  Try too soon and you're screwed wait too long and you're screwed. 

Online match sites have changed a lot of things.  People forget that even if you've talked for weeks you meet a stranger the first time.  If you spend another two weeks chatting after that, the next meeting is the second date.  I don't put a lot, if any, weight on online exchanges.  There is no body language, no voice inflection to help understand the real meaning behind the words.

What you know after meeting 1, 2, 3 is whether there is enough interest to keep meeting.  A lot of times, especially if one person is shy, it takes awhile to just get comfortable being with each other.  Thats not the time to start asserting yourself or trying to serve someone.   

I only speak from the perspective of someone who wants more than a play partner.  I want a D/s relationship and those are not built in a day.  They are formed from the same stuff that any good relationship comes from and that takes time. 

There are small ways to start, directing the flow of conversation,  (not monopolizing it). Or when the sub excuses themselves to go to the restroom a smile and "That will be ok this time" begins to get the mind going in the right direction.  Being subtle and creative often goes a long way.  Other simple things do as well.  Simple things like meals prepared for a visiting dom. The dom can state what they like before the visit and see if it turns up on the table. 

Maybe thats what appeals to me about D/s.  It makes life easier.  A dominant makes his preferances known and the sub, without being asked, steps up to her side of the plate and caters to his preferences.  The sub doesn't spend hours agonizing over what he wants because he has made that known. 

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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 10:30:53 AM   
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I've felt that problem here online.... but not in real life.... mainly because that is where I am used to, I know the 'rules'. As the dynamic starts to kick in I allow myself to start expressing it gently and if it doesn't get a submissive responce then all it means is that I've either misread the dynamic from the other person or more likely, she ain't the girl I'm looking for.... (I never wonder about wether they are submissive simply because they refuse as buffy seems to have encountered, to me that comes from a lack of confidence on the part of the so-called Dom)

Online though, gah, it is just neigh on impossible to judge the dynamic. Frankly all I'm really trying to do now when I spot a potential online, is get to the first real life meeting ASAP.... get things out of virtual and into what I know.


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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 11:04:20 AM   
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This is a good subject for me to read thru because I was horribly caught in the online dynamic frustration with someone. Online, to me everyone is a human being deserving of my respect and the manners I was taught unless their behaviour warrants otherwise. Yes, I am by nature a dominant person and yes, that shows more when I see bad behaviour or just something that makes me want to interject something. Even then I tend to do it in a more mannerly rather than combative fashion. Just because someone I am communicating with says they are submissive or slave does not mean they are MY sub/slave. I will not determine that anyone is MY sub/slave until I spend real face to face time with them, getting to know them as a person and decide wether or not I want them in my life. All of that being said, I find that I naturally just begin to take control of my real life situations and the people involved without having to decide or think about it. Even in meeting someone that was a potential, if I could not see them working out in that manner I was still in control of the situation and even much of the interaction with that woman. I felt in myself a concious choice without effort, to enforce a certain structure of boundaries. Even online I have learned thru trial and error to be more forceful in a private conversation with someone I am interested in whereas before, I was holding back due to a fear of offending or driving them off when I have since learned I was only shooting myself in the foot. Silly me! Whoda thunk a submissive needs a dominant to take control even online!!! duhhhhh....... While I still prefer to get past the net and face to face where I am better able to guage the situation I am learning to assert myself right away rather than string on something that will just fall apart when reality jumps in.
 I think I digress in that perhaps the thread was created more for the sake of protocol rather than what I am bringing up, but you all know how much I like to toss in my two dollars worth.......

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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 12:53:32 PM   
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On-line and real-life encounters are very different. When I encounter a Dom/me on-line, I will be respectful as I would with anyone. That's just being polite. When I meet someone in real-life, I am respectful and polite. "Ma'am" and "Sir" fall out of my mouth because that's how you talk to someone in a respectful, polite way.

I don't understand subs who are meeting with a Dom/me not being polite. I have never NOT used polite terms when I've met with someone. Even ones who were wanna-be's deserved the respect of a polite term being used.

It is unfortunate that you are meeting people who are not naturally polite, at the least, and perhaps not submissives.

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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 2:06:31 PM   
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 Wide eyes, deep breath.... Sheesh. Sorry I brought back childhood trauma by asking you to use an honorific. 

Perhaps it is more because with the internet there are a lot of self-proclaimed dominants who are anything but.  I refuse to call anyone by an honorific until I know enough about them to determine the validity of their claim.  Politeness is certainly called for, but respect due your title needs to be proven. 


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So we Dominants sometimes repress that tendency to be Dominant, so as to not step on the "human rights" of submissives to be treated as equals ... um, until we're not equals. I think sometimes us Dominants are sitting around waiting to be told when that time is.

Yes, I do have rights as a human being.  Even though I identify as a submissive in D/s, in the world at large, I am fairly dominant myself.  Submission is what I offer to the dominant of my choice and yes, I get to make that choice; he or she can also choose whether or not to accept my submission.  To submit to every dominant in the world would be quite tiring. 

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  This trend confuses me. That I'm supposed to sit back and pretend to be vanilla, or even pretend to be submissive, waiting on the submissive to take the Dominant role and give me permission to now be Dominant with them, and they'll now be submissive to me. It makes me scratch my head and try to figure out what the heck is going on.
The whole concept of me waiting for a submissive to say "You may now tell me to address you by an honorific." or "You may now order my coffee for me." or "You may now xyz."
Huh? I May? How generous of you (submissive) to allow me (Dominant) the privilege of your permission.
But ummm.... isn't that kind of supposed to work the other way around?



No, it's not 'supposed to work the other way around' until both parties have agreed that is what they want.  I would suggest that some conversation needs to occur before a first meet to come to an agreement about what will take place there. I make it clear to any potential dominant that I do not ever submit over the first cup of coffee.  I make it clear that I view the first meet as an opportunity for each of us to appraise the other as a person.  If I don't see the person first, I am not willing to consider a D/s relationship. 
I take my submission seriously and believe it would be frivolous at best to submit to one and all.   

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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 4:21:55 PM   
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For me personally (though I can't speak for the entire rest of the world) the line is very, very clear, simple and easy.

One word.  Consent.  That's it.  Can't be any clearer than that really.  In the absence of clear consent, no D/s roleplaying is allowed or desired.  The moment that consent is given, your ass is mine, within the reasonable limits and structure of our existing social exchange.

Consent has levels and levels.  Consent to act submissive and deferential to me at a social event does not constitute the expectation that I will collar and brand someone and take them home, and that is (or should be) reasonably well understood by both parties.  It may not even constitute consent to physically touch them; their submission may be limited to verbal deference or serving drinks. 

Explicit verbal negotiation is the best way to be really sure that both people are on the same page, but experienced players in a known cultural context may already be on the same page in terms of their expectations and the level of mutual consent.  Eg, it may be part of the culture of a specific BDSM group that submissives may be asked to fetch drinks for dominants, or to address a dominant by a title if requested, and that's a normal expectation there.  But it may also be understood that a dominant does not have automatic permission to touch or strike a submissive without consent.  In another BDSM group, the expectations and levels of "assumed consent" may be different.  When in doubt, ask.  Communication and negotiation is the keystone of WIITWD.

Sometimes the initial communication isn't always verbal.  If I look at somebody, and somebody looks at me, and we seem to naturally "click" to the point that I actually have the urge to respond in a D/s way, that's when I explicitly ask his consent, or expect him to ask mine.  Now at this stage I am not asking to collar him and carve my initials on his ass.  I'm not asking for anything beyond his consent to express our D/s roles with each other for the length of our interaction.  If he's doing the asking, presumably all he is asking is something like, "May I get you a drink, Ma'am?" or better yet, "May I call you Ma'am?  Is that appropriate?"  Or, "May I be of service to you?"  Or something to that effect.  Anything will do if it fits the bill of explicit consent.  We can then proceed from there to something deeper and more intense by negotiating a higher level of consent, or simply enjoy a very brief D/s interaction that is limited to a single verbal exchange.

Example: dialogue from last night's play party.

Fast forward over about 45 minutes of friendly, informative "welcome to the BDSM community, glad you could make it to your first event, here is some good advice about safety, etiquette, finding a play partner, negotiation, etc, here is what BDSM toys from my toybag look like, here is what you might expect from play or scening at an event."  I encouraged him not to feel pressured to jump right into play, since he seemed shy and reticent, and said that it was just fine to relax, socialize and learn before participating.  But if he did want to participate, here are some ways to approach a dominant that are considered polite and acceptable.  Eg, "newbie orientation 101".

Since neither of us had asked or given any level of consent, I was friendly and neutral.  It was obvious that I was *a* dominant, but it was equally obvious that I was being friendly and welcoming, respecting his comfort level, treating him as an equal, and not acting at all like *his* dominant.  At some point the energy shifted, and I must have gotten that feral, predatory, sharp-fanged domme-grin on as I asked him, "So.  You've never done ANYTHING like this before, eh?  You're a total virgin?" 

He picked up on that energy right away and said in a bare whisper, "That's right.  Um, so you wanna....um...with me?"

Consent given.  From that moment on, for the duration of our interaction at the event, I was dominant to him.   It's really a mindset and attitude that changes, not always the physical actions.  Though I will confess that I did in fact put him to his knees and negotiate my way to violating that virgin slave ass with his very first spanking and flogging.  I could have stopped at an earlier level, and just had him behaving and speaking in a manner that expressed his submissive role and emphasized my dominant role.  But I sensed that his interest and consent went deeper than that, so I asked him specifically if he consented to more.  He did, so we both had a merry good time.  I "dropped role" again at the end of the party and went back into "friendly community educator mode" to debrief him, educate him a little further about what had happened, and make sure he was okay. We parted with a nice hug and mutual well wishes, and that was the end of a positive D/s interaction. 

If he had not clearly shown consent, I would have continued to respect his comfort level and remained friendly and welcoming.  "Dominant" and "Asshole" are really not synonyms.  It would not make me a Real Domme to go around disrespecting people or being pushy or bossy because I am too busy strutting my Real Dominance to act like a decent adult human being.  I am also not a drive-through McDommes, handing out my dominant energy and attention to order to every wannabe sub who runs up and demands it.  My consent also needs to be asked and given, not assumed. 

It's really all about the consent for me.  I'm not entirely sure that what you have is BDSM at all if consent is not asked and given first, in some way, on some level that is clearly accepted and understood by both parties.   It certainly isn't anything I'd consider doing. 


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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 4:42:41 PM   
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Why are people expected to act vanilla, then progress to a bdsm dynamic within communication and acknowledgement of roles?..Ive never been in that situation..but it seems pretty dumb to me. 
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Simply because someone is dominant does not mean I will agree to submit to them.  The getting to know stage, for me, is to discover if this dominant has the qualities I am looking for and for him to see if I have the qualities he seeks in a submissive.  Much can be learned about the other persons dominance or submission through conversation and questions.  Once I am of the mind that I would like to offer my submission, I tell him that.  It is then his choice whether or not to take it to the next step. 


See, that is exactly what I dont get, that means to me people are incapable of expressing qualities and interests, having a conversation even...unless they are not being who they are, dominant or submissive.....that means to me, that the domination and submission is the *roleplay* and the vanilla non dominant or submissive is the *real* person who can be intelligent and sharing and insightful...and at some point..that real vanilla person makes a decision..hey this person is ok to be with..lets play. Whereas....I see it like..the dominant or submissive personality is the real personality and is capable of communication and getting to know someone and isnt a role. Damn I hope this is making sense. I'm not meaning you have to submit to someone totally before they even know you, just that I dont get the reason behind having to act some other way when interacting with someone else from this lifestyle disposition.


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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 4:48:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Proprietrix
I think darq and CreativeDominant really touch on what I'm feeling here. I find myself frequently repressing my Dominant side.


I don't exactly look at it that way.  My perspective is that it is my responsibility as a reasonably sane adult to be able to control my primal and sexual urges in appropriate social and professional situations.  I do not threaten to flog the supermarket clerk if she fails to count my change correctly.  I do not insist that my brothers and male cousins call me "Mistress" at a family dinner.  At a friend's church wedding, I do not wear black leather and bring my slave on a leash.  Exercising normal and appropriate restraint when acting out my D/s sexuality is not "repressing my Dominant side" but conducting myself like a normal, in-control adult member of society. 

Being slightly genderbent, my idealized image of myself as a dominant is that of a warrior knight, a Master who is self disciplined and honorable, with the wit and manners of an educated gentleman.  Good manners and self-control are the mark of a strong and confident dominant.  Someone who yells and screams for obedience, or who is rude and pushy, arrogant, bossy or bitchy, does not seem Dominant to me.   I strive not to be any of those things.  I may not always succeed, but I work fairly hard at it. Part of that work in progress for me is showing respect for others and consciously cultivating good manners. 


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Now, I feel like if I approached a single submissive girl (outside of a high protocol real life event), and asked her to refer to me as "Ma'am", I'd get an onslaught by her and her submissive friends of "Your not my fucking Mistress! I don't wear your collar! You have no right to tell me what to do or say or wear or think! I'm a person damnit! Not your fucking dog! I'll tell you when it's ok for you to tell me anything! You Dominants seem to think just because you call yourself a Dominant that ALL submissives are YOUR submissive!"
Wide eyes, deep breath.... Sheesh. Sorry I brought back childhood trauma by asking you to use an honorific.


My feeling is that a lot would depend on *how* you asked, as well as how the last dozen wannabe dominants before you asked.

I think that if I *demanded* that someone call me by a title, you could lay pretty good odds that I'd be told to fuck off.  I'd deserve it too, since submissive does not mean stupid, and there are a lot of wannabes in the scene.  But if I took the time to demonstrate in a quietly confident but essentially neutral way that I was worthy of a title, and asked their consent for that degree of submission, I'd very likely get it.  A submissive needs time to figure out whether you are a dominant or an asshole, because there are a hell of lot of assholes.  The people unwilling to give a submissive that time, the ones demanding instant respect,  are usually the assholes.  The submissives who don't take that time and who are willing to grovel to everyone are not the ones whose respect is worth having.


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This trend confuses me. That I'm supposed to sit back and pretend to be vanilla, or even pretend to be submissive, waiting on the submissive to take the Dominant role and give me permission to now be Dominant with them, and they'll now be submissive to me. It makes me scratch my head and try to figure out what the heck is going on.



My personal precept is that whenever I want something from someone, and I am unsure of the dynamics of the situation or the level of their consent, I ask. 

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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 4:58:27 PM   
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P.S. I really think this perspective of having to act *normal* is just an overflow from a previously vanilla life i.e this is how you act when you meet someone. Whereas, if its really true that people come "home to themselves" when they discover their dominant or submissive nature, that is what becomes *normal* and the expression of such shouldnt be forced into a vanilla expression when dealing with other people who have come to the same conclusion ie. other people who have a conscious affiliation with bdsm and D/s.

Dominant and submissive personalities are just as capable of making decisions, assessing situations, getting to know someone, sharing about themselves etc as a vanilla personality.

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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 5:00:31 PM   
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Sure I can appreciate that a dominant wouldnt make extreme demands on someone they dont own, but surely they are allowed to just be who they are, dominant or submissive in just general interaction. The fact too that both parties meeting up know about the other persons disposition so why would they want them to act any other way? Doesn't make sense to me at all. 

Why are people expected to act vanilla, then progress to a bdsm dynamic within communication and acknowledgement of roles?..Ive never been in that situation..but it seems pretty dumb to me.


Short form answer, because I personally HATE being treated like a drive-through McDomme's or a cardboard prop for some stranger's sexual fantasy grovelling.  Because for me, D/s is an incredibly personal and intimate activity that I don't want to do with just anyone. 

There's interacting in a naturally dominant or submissive way, which I might do with total strangers in a completely nonsexual, non kinky context.  That's a whole other ballpark from looking down and noticing that there is some weirdo licking my boots.  And yes, that has happened to me at a scene event, and I didn't like it one little bit.  Totally nonsexual, non-kinky, "natural" dominance and submission, deference such as would go unremarked in the workplace or an academic environment, fine.  But don't do ANY kinky shit with me without explicit consent, because I am not a prop for your masturbatory fantasies and I deeply resent being used that way. 

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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 5:09:58 PM   
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P.S. I really think this perspective of having to act *normal* is just an overflow from a previously vanilla life i.e this is how you act when you meet someone. Whereas, if its really true that people come "home to themselves" when they discover their dominant or submissive nature, that is what becomes *normal* and the expression of such shouldnt be forced into a vanilla expression when dealing with other people who have come to the same conclusion ie. other people who have a conscious affiliation with bdsm and D/s.


I am very happy for people when they discover the BDSM community and gain an appreciation and acceptance of themselves, and a safe place to be themselves with other consenting adults.  But the key word *has* to be "consenting".  I feel joyful and like I'm "coming home" when I can express my dominant nature, so yay for me.  But that does not give me the right to act out my role with people who don't appreciate or enjoy it. 

Just because someone has a conscious affiliation with BDSM does *not* mean that they consent to do it with me personally.  That would be like saying, "Jane is heterosexual, she is dating a man.  I am a man, so I can have sex with Jane."  Um, no.  Jane does not automatically consent to have sex with you because she is having sex with her boyfriend.  I understand that some high school boys are still ready to believe that kind of thing ("Hey man, if she puts out for John, she'll put out for me too."), but real life usually doesn't work that way.  You have to ask Jane yourself if she consents, because consent for one is not automatically blanket permission for all.


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Dominant and submissive personalities are just as capable of making decisions, assessing situations, getting to know someone, sharing about themselves etc as a vanilla personality.


Quite right, and my decision is "keep it in your pants until we know each other better."  LOL

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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 5:10:21 PM   
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That's a whole other ballpark from looking down and noticing that there is some weirdo licking my boots. 


hehe, well I agree, that might be going a bit overboard when meeting someone for coffee, or meeting anyone anywhere for the first time, unless the situation was agreed to lol...god Im laughing so much

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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 5:17:56 PM   
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Well just to let anyone know, if I ever meet any of you for coffee, its perfectly ok to realise I'm submissive/slave and you can ask me to get you a coffee or whatever and I would be glad to do it, heck you can even dominate the conversation, ask me to call you " Big Top Hat", I promise not to lose my intelligence, my wit or my perspective,  no previous consensual agreements needed  Thats all I'm saying.

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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 5:20:42 PM   
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Being kinky doesn't mean you stop being vanilla.  You still have a job, a mortgage, possibly children...you still have to buy food and put gas in the car and all that stuff.  This is not an us/them proposition.  We all put our britches on one leg at a time.  Just because you comport yourself with dignity and respect in a social situation does not take away or hide the fact that you're a kinky person.  Just because you treat another human with respect and basic courtesy during a first meet, doesn't make you less submissive or less dominant.  If it's that big of an issue for you, discuss it with the person you're planning to meet before you meet them.  Say...Hey, I'd really like it if you ordered my meal for me, or...I'd really enjoy it if you'd allow me to order for you, or whatever. 



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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 5:35:11 PM   
Najakcharmer


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ORIGINAL: slavejali

Well just to let anyone know, if I ever meet any of you for coffee, its perfectly ok to realise I'm submissive/slave and you can ask me to get you a coffee or whatever and I would be glad to do it, heck you can even dominate the conversation, ask me to call you " Big Top Hat", I promise not to lose my intelligence, my wit or my perspective,  no previous consensual agreements needed  Thats all I'm saying.


**stamps foot petulantly**  That's MASTER Big Top Hat Goddess Empress Ma'am to you, slave biotch! 

*chuckles*  I think that if you and I met for coffee, we'd easily, comfortably and naturally work out where our mutual consent levels were in terms of expressing our D/s roles.  What causes me annoyance is when it isn't comfortable or mutual, when one person oversteps the bounds of another person's comfort and consent. 

Experienced people can sometimes settle into that mutual comfort level with a stranger with no more than a look and a word or two exchanged.  But the best way to be sure that two people are on the same page is to ask.  It isn't the end of the world to relax, to be secure in your own dominance or submission without needing to strut in it, to ask in a self-controlled, mannerly way before proceeding. 



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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 5:43:12 PM   
slavejali


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**stamps foot petulantly**  That's MASTER Big Top Hat Goddess Empress Ma'am to you, slave biotch! 


Gulp..yes Maam..i mean MASTER Big Top Hat Goddess Empress Ma'am


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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 5:43:50 PM   
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slavejali -

I couldn't have said it better myself.  Thank you.

*edited for font...i have no clue what i'm doing.  Forgive me.

< Message edited by littlechameleon -- 5/14/2006 5:47:00 PM >

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RE: At what point is it ok to start expressing your role? - 5/14/2006 5:54:03 PM   
Najakcharmer


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ORIGINAL: slavejali
Gulp..yes Maam..i mean MASTER Big Top Hat Goddess Empress Ma'am


Hee hee.  Okay, now a serious question.  How would you respond to somebody who messaged you, quite seriously, with something of this caliber:

I R TEH DOMINATE.  U WILL NEEL 2 ME NOW SLAVE BIOTCH.  AND CALL ME MASTUR. BCUZ I R TEH DOMINATE & U R TEH SUBMISIV.

Or the equivalent in real life.  Remember that you don't know this person, they have given you absolutely no time to get to know or evaluate them, they've simply shown up and demanded that you interact with them in their D/s role.  And from what you can evaluate, you are not impressed. 

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