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Popeye you are a brilliant example of why America is racing towards the middle of the pack.All of you assholes in the search mediocrity should really let up about now,after all we as a Nation have already achieved your goals....we seem to be firmly in the middle of the pack as a Country...unless of course what you really want is for us to bring up the rear?
Please allow those of us who would seek to ADVANCE America and Americans handle the next few elections.....youngest sit back and bitch and moan..it would appear to be what you are best suited to doing!!

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4. He's a Mormon.  Odd that the most sensible candidates such as Romney and Huntsman belong to the looniest religion.

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I personally don't like Romney because he comes off like a NE elitist. I hate Romney care, and it's a disaster, IMO. He's anti second amendment, and while he may be personally fiscally responsible, his state is in pretty rough shape.

The fact that he's Mormon is the only positive thing in my book.

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No, wilbur and Firm both explained in another thread that's a myth made up by the Democrats.  The Christian Right holds no power in the Republican Party.

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Romney comes across to me as the conservatives best and brightest so, obviously I am not the brightest because I just don't get the animosity for him from the GOP? What am I missing? Why doesn't the GOP want to see this guy get the nod?

Because the fundamentalist Christian Right has the Republican Party by the balls, and Romney is a Mormon.

K.

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subrob1967
I personally don't like Romney because he comes off like a NE elitist.

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I hate Romney care, and it's a disaster, IMO. He's anti second amendment, and while he may be personally fiscally responsible, his state is in pretty rough shape.

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I agree with Kirata on this. Romney is the smartest, least loosery of all the choices IMO.

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I personally don't like Romney because he comes off like a NE elitist. I hate Romney care, and it's a disaster, IMO. He's anti second amendment, and while he may be personally fiscally responsible, his state is in pretty rough shape.

The fact that he's Mormon is the only positive thing in my book.

I just moved from FL back to MA. FL is in much worse shape. Where'd you get your stats from? MA is in better shape than more than half the country.

http://247wallst.com/2010/10/04/the-best-and-worst-run-states-in-america-a-survey-of-all-fifty/2/

19th. Massachusetts
Debt per Capita: $14,079 (49th)
Unemployment Rate: 8.8% (26th)
Home Price Change (’06 – ’09): -8.6% (44th)
Median Household Income: $64,081 (6th)
Massachusetts is a good example of a state which falls towards the median range of our ranking, not because it is either high or low in its metrics overall, but because it does very well by some measurements and very poorly by others. It is third in GDP per capita, seventh in poverty level, sixth in median household income, and, at 4.2%, has the smallest percentage of its residents without health care coverage. On the other hand, it is 49th in debt per capita, at $14,079 for each citizen, and it had the sixth-worst decline in home value from 2006 to 2009.

Methodology:

24/7 Wall St. considered data from a number of sources, including Standard & Poor’s, the Bureau of Labor and Statistics, the National Conference of State Legislators, the Bureau of Economic Analysis, and the National Association of State Budget Officers. The Bureau of Labor Statistics provided unemployment data, and the Bureau of Economic Analysis provided GDP per capita. Credit rating agency Standard & Poor’s provided credit ratings for all 50 states. A significant amount of the data we used came from the U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey. Data from ACS included violent crime rate, unemployment rate, GDP per capita, percent below the poverty line, high school completion for those 25 and older, median household income, debt per capita, percent of the population without health insurance, and the change in occupied home values from 2006 to 2009. The ACS released its 2009 numbers on Tuesday, September 28th, 2010. These are the values we used in our survey. Once we reviewed the sources and compiled the final metrics, we ranked each state based on its performance in all the categories.

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I personally don't like Romney because he comes off like a NE elitist. I hate Romney care, and it's a disaster, IMO. He's anti second amendment, and while he may be personally fiscally responsible, his state is in pretty rough shape.

The fact that he's Mormon is the only positive thing in my book.

I just moved from FL back to MA. FL is in much worse shape. Where'd you get your stats from? MA is in better shape than more than half the country.

http://247wallst.com/2010/10/04/the-best-and-worst-run-states-in-america-a-survey-of-all-fifty/2/

19th. Massachusetts
Debt per Capita: $14,079 (49th)
Unemployment Rate: 8.8% (26th)
Home Price Change (’06 – ’09): -8.6% (44th)
Median Household Income: $64,081 (6th)
Massachusetts is a good example of a state which falls towards the median range of our ranking, not because it is either high or low in its metrics overall, but because it does very well by some measurements and very poorly by others. It is third in GDP per capita, seventh in poverty level, sixth in median household income, and, at 4.2%, has the smallest percentage of its residents without health care coverage. On the other hand, it is 49th in debt per capita, at $14,079 for each citizen, and it had the sixth-worst decline in home value from 2006 to 2009.

Methodology:

24/7 Wall St. considered data from a number of sources, including Standard & Poor’s, the Bureau of Labor and Statistics, the National Conference of State Legislators, the Bureau of Economic Analysis, and the National Association of State Budget Officers. The Bureau of Labor Statistics provided unemployment data, and the Bureau of Economic Analysis provided GDP per capita. Credit rating agency Standard & Poor’s provided credit ratings for all 50 states. A significant amount of the data we used came from the U.S. Census Bureau’s American Community Survey. Data from ACS included violent crime rate, unemployment rate, GDP per capita, percent below the poverty line, high school completion for those 25 and older, median household income, debt per capita, percent of the population without health insurance, and the change in occupied home values from 2006 to 2009. The ACS released its 2009 numbers on Tuesday, September 28th, 2010. These are the values we used in our survey. Once we reviewed the sources and compiled the final metrics, we ranked each state based on its performance in all the categories.

He may be referring to Romneycare again rather than the state as a whole. Romneycare hasnt done what it was supposed to...bend the cost curve down, reduce ER visits (which have actually increased) and so on. That is his primary weakness, one that Perry doesnt have.

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Republicans also held up Massachusetts as an example of a health care horror.

To now support its architect would be problematic.

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No, wilbur and Firm both explained in another thread that's a myth made up by the Democrats.  The Christian Right holds no power in the Republican Party.

If all you can do is lie about what other people say, why not just stfu?

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The power of "the fundies" is vastly overstated by people like you who try to marginalize the entire party based on a minority.

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This is a standard meme on the left, when they attempt to convince people to vote Democratic.

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No, wilbur and Firm both explained in another thread that's a myth made up by the Democrats.  The Christian Right holds no power in the Republican Party.

If all you can do is lie about what other people say, why not just stfu?

Want to try again wilbur.

Please point out which part was the lie I made up.

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The power of "the fundies" is vastly overstated by people like you who try to marginalize the entire party based on a minority.

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your so funny wilbur

That's the best part about you, that comedy routine is always good for a laugh