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ORIGINAL: Kirata

Because the fundamentalist Christian Right has the Republican Party by the balls, and Romney is a Mormon.

K.

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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

I don't know what's going on with  you wilbur.  It seems you hang out on the board by the hour trying to insult people.

I am sorry for whatever bad turn your life has taken.  I hope things pick up soon.

Now feel free to act like a child alone.

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Romney gets the squeek for state over fed. From what I gather, his plan is working over there in MA.. isn't that a good thing?

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven



1. The GOP doesn't want bright.  It's not simply the GOP - Kerry was painted as being too intellectual (remember when he went duck hunting to try to establish himself as a regular guy?).  One of the reasons Palin evokes interest is that she is not an intellectual - she deliberately gave photo ops of hunting wolves as part of her crafted image.  I suspect that a lot of the anti-Obama sentiment is due to his Ivy League, intellectual background.

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The GOP and media like PASSION.  They like "Bring it on", "Mission Accomplished", etc.  They like Palin's and Bachmann's simple world views and Trump's looniness.  Romney, for all his virtues, elicits as much passion as a fish with perfect hair.

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2. The GOP has a series of litmus tests that Romney passes barely if at all.  The fact that he's a moderate gives him a shot in the general but makes him almost unwinnable in the primary.  His strength is supposedly in economic issues, which should dominate the general, but the GOP is more concerned about social issues and budget cuts.

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3. He's changed stances.  Health care, gay rights, abortion - he's toeing the main GOP line on those issues but had to change his stances to do that.  One of the many horrible things that W did to the US political scene was to excoriate Kerry so badly for flip-flopping and changing his stance that politicians are now expected to hold to their stances forever, as though changing under changing circumstances is ethically wrong, when in fact it is the only reasonable thing to do.

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4. He's a Mormon.  Odd that the most sensible candidates such as Romney and Huntsman belong to the looniest religion.

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I'm reading "The 19th Wife" which is historical fiction set beginning in the 1830s and 2005. Brigham Young sounds like a wackadoo (there wasn't too much on Joseph Smith) and I'll have to get some non-fiction. Any recommendations?

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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I'm reading "The 19th Wife" which is historical fiction set beginning in the 1830s and 2005. Brigham Young sounds like a wackadoo (there wasn't too much on Joseph Smith) and I'll have to get some non-fiction. Any recommendations?

I can't think of any right off the top of my head. It's been since college that I've read the Mormon saga... but JUST WAIT till you get to read about their behavior on the way out to the Salt lake... it'll curl your hair my friend.

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ORIGINAL: flcouple2009

This is what I know.

I grew up in the Christian Right until I was old enough to escape.  The Mrs family is deeply involved.  We get bombarded with literature and email forwards from the different groups and organizations.  Occasionally we even read some of them just to see what's going on.

Last election cycle there were many "reminders" that Romney is a Mormon.  Some were subtle while others were quick to point out that the Mormons are a cult.  I expect to start seeing those again as the election cycle nears.

Many of these same people are birthers.  Email after email on the topic. 

Lots of support for Sarah Palin.

While they aren't able to just elect their own candidate they are a block vote that can push one candidate past another in the primary. 

Personally I believe Romney is the best of the Republicans running.  I also believe if elected he would mirror Obama in certain ways.  The further left you go in the Democratic party they are unhappy because Obama is not liberal enough.  I think you will have the same effect in the Republican Party.  The further right you go they will be unhappy because Romney is not conservative enough.

I think the closer to the center the better off we are all.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Mitt doesn't capture my imagination, and he just oozes that insincere, creepy politician vibe. I don't think he has the charisma and passion that will be needed to send President Obama back to Chicago.

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


I agree about being closer to the center because I'm wired that way myself (either a Pisces thing or a bi thing.. take yer pick. ). That needs to be combined with out of the box thinking so we can come up with viable solutions to what ails us. I would love to see Romney be able to deliver all that so we have some real options and good choices for leading us forward.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

He's too educated.
I don't want what they call, "the best and the brightest" in the White House, I want "a man or woman of the people."
The best and the brightest usually aren't.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

I think your premise is wrong, Romney leads in polls of GOP voters, and unless Perry gets in is the odds on favorite imo.

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

I think your premise is wrong, Romney leads in polls of GOP voters, and unless Perry gets in is the odds on favorite imo.

Ok. 19.3 didn't seem like an overwhelming mandate to me but it's still pretty early.

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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Romney gets the squeek for state over fed. From what I gather, his plan is working over there in MA.. isn't that a good thing?

Actually, IT TOTALLY WASN'T Working in mass. And he ditched on us with all kinds of shit incomplete. But Healthcare had the worst impact of all. We were mandated to have health care and there no initial safety net for all the healthcare companies that suddenly were going up as much as 25%.
However, the good news is that Governor Patrick sponsored a bill that  required mass health to absorb those who couldn't afford insurance, had their own business, or were stuck with one of the fly-by-night companies Romney let in on the deal ... such as MegaHealth (CAN YOU SAY MOTHER FUCKING CROOKS?).
   So, while you may have a warm fuzzy for Mit The Shit, but know that the people in the state he governed have a very sour taste in their mouths from his rule.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


I agree about being closer to the center because I'm wired that way myself (either a Pisces thing or a bi thing.. take yer pick. ). That needs to be combined with out of the box thinking so we can come up with viable solutions to what ails us. I would love to see Romney be able to deliver all that so we have some real options and good choices for leading us forward.

Pay attention to Perry if he gets in. I think you'll like him.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Things will begin to coalesce a bit after Monday. There are still too many pretenders splitting the vote. If you parse them out and even just allocate their votes evenly amongst the rest and voila, he's up in the 40s.

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Things will begin to coalesce a bit after Monday. There are still too many pretenders splitting the vote. If you parse them out and even just allocate their votes evenly amongst the rest and voila, he's up in the 40s.

Start by taking out old Newt.  He's toast, he just hasn't realized it yet.

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama



I'm reading "The 19th Wife" which is historical fiction set beginning in the 1830s and 2005. Brigham Young sounds like a wackadoo (there wasn't too much on Joseph Smith) and I'll have to get some non-fiction. Any recommendations?

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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I'm reading "The 19th Wife" which is historical fiction set beginning in the 1830s and 2005. Brigham Young sounds like a wackadoo (there wasn't too much on Joseph Smith) and I'll have to get some non-fiction. Any recommendations?

I can't think of any right off the top of my head. It's been since college that I've read the Mormon saga... but JUST WAIT till you get to read about their behavior on the way out to the Salt lake... it'll curl your hair my friend.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble


I agree about being closer to the center because I'm wired that way myself (either a Pisces thing or a bi thing.. take yer pick. ). That needs to be combined with out of the box thinking so we can come up with viable solutions to what ails us. I would love to see Romney be able to deliver all that so we have some real options and good choices for leading us forward.

Pay attention to Perry if he gets in. I think you'll like him.