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RE: Why get out to the community? - 6/13/2011 3:08:45 PM   
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I think the numbers of online lifestyle people are skewed toward males possibly because men are more likely to create fetishes around their desires.  I've only dated one woman from this site, but have also never dated a woman who wasn't submissive at least in the bedroom.  I'd have to believe this is partially luck and partially just a good match of personalities.

I recently read in Cosmopolitan magazine while waiting at the checkout in the grocery store an article that said 64 % of women were into some form of power exchange.  It sounded like most liked to be tied and spanked, but that was just my interpretation of the article.  It did not give percentages of tops or bottoms.  I suspect that there are some biological reasons for the traditional gender roles.  I'm not saying that biology defines us nor am I saying that there are more differences than overlap.  Just that there are some preferences by both genders, and I think, at least for women, it might be slightly skewed toward submissive.  Yeah, I know I'm going to get pummeled for that statement.  Bring it on, I'm, ready!  lol.

I also think there are plenty of dommes out there outside of the lifestyle.  These are women with a dominant personality, but that dominance is not typically associated with kink.  Whether they are dominant in the bedroom also, I would have no way to know.  These are the woman that the surplus of submissive men on this site should probably court.  I've seen books on how to turn your g/f into a domme.  Who knows, it might work, and from the statistics cited in the original post, it's probably your best chance.

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 6/15/2011 1:28:33 PM   
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I don't think people need to get involved in their local kinky community to find partners. I would consider my overall experience with BDSM munches to be poor, but my experiences with private parties in a small, limited social circle were much more positive.

There are a host of reasons I personally didn't find munches or large public gatherings to be attractive - I didn't feel I could relate to most people, and I observed too much lack of tact, lack of hygiene and uncomfortable social situations. I have been to a lot of random social gatherings with various "groups" and I don't think it's just a group dynamic, it's something specific to people who share a sexual deviance as the common theme, and then all come together. Something about that made men act and behave (verbally and non verbally), to me and other women, in a method that lacked class. There's too much staring, too much inappropriate advances, too much lack of social grace, and too much cattiness with the women.

More to the point, I think that I don't feel comfortable in situations that are set up so that I - and other women - are objectified and pursued. I don't like the attention of "getting hit on" or getting stared at to be flattering or fun. I know some women LOVE the attention of others, and dominant women may bask in this. Personally, I prefer to be the one pursuing, and find it awkward to have to shun the advances of men contiually, especially men who don't know me from adam. As a dominant women in social and social-sexual dynamics, I find situations where men are embarrassing themselves to be a standout to be uncomfortable for all involved. And mind you I am not saying "Oh I am a stunning beauty and I enter the room and all men flock to me and hit on me" - I am saying the men hit on ALL the women, or stared, or at least tried to make a play for more access, no matter WHO. Female? femdom? Well the guy is going to give it a shot. It's the real life version of spam email. There's nothing flattering about it. It's just varying degrees of awkward, from guys making poor double-meaning jokes and thinking it's flirting to just blatant come ons or just the meek stuff and thinking it's "cute." It's every bad high school dating situation replayed but with adults. Since this is status quo, anyone who finds that stuff lame just won't go back.

I found fetish "clubs" (dance clubs) more tolerable as there was something else to do (dance), aside from just conversations that always ended up awkward or political. I found that men talked to me, and other women, in a way too familiar way, or postured submissive, just because the dynamic seemed to 'allow' it, even if it wasn't a "play party." Despite the fact that a munch was set up as a 'non play' space, sub men still postured sub, you could still tell who was sub, and there was way too much effort to use inside jokes and one-up every else's inside jokes or prove you were "in the know." These kinds of games I found lame and trivial. I would much rather spend time with men who were not treating me in a different way because after they asked or said, "Oh of course I could tell you were femdom," or, worse, "wow, femdom, I would not have guessed, you seem so normal..."

I think a lot of people go to BDSM munches one time, or two at the most. I think a lot of the dominant women are not comfortable, like me, with the way men treated them (trust me, if they didn't make the inappropriate advance at the munch, they would ask for the number or email, and then what? it still boils down to having to say no, no, no and no - as a femdom, I will make the move, trust me). And worse, I think the real attractive factor for women like me -- strong, submissive men who behave like normal guys and are laid back and just relaxed - they observe how other men behave and by default do NOT want to be lumped in with them. That's the problem. They realize that if a woman comes by that they are interested in, they have to be grouped up with men that are an embarrassment to submissives and they don't want guilt by association. So they don't go.



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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 3:36:43 PM   
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@Aakasha....... great insights to the quandry of the normal sub-bloke and why so many of us are nolo-Muncho-s .........have attended them in many different places and they have a certain uniform 'yuck' factor to them unfortunately.

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 3:43:38 PM   
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I am not a fan of munches, either. What IS important, is that folks leave their houses and get out and meet people face to face. Not just people that they want to date--others with similar interests and experiences.

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 3:46:51 PM   
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quote:

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I am not a fan of munches, either. What IS important, is that folks leave their houses and get out and meet people face to face. Not just people that they want to date--others with similar interests and experiences.


Why is this important? We've gone to munches mainly for the curiosity, train wreck factor. Never because they are into bdsm.
You haven't lived until you've spied on a littles munch, just knowing that they're eating at a diner wearing diapers.
What am I supposed to get out of that?




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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 3:48:55 PM   
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I am not a fan of munches, either. What IS important, is that folks leave their houses and get out and meet people face to face. Not just people that they want to date--others with similar interests and experiences.


Why is this important? We've gone to munches mainly for the curiosity, train wreck factor. Never because they are into bdsm.
You haven't lived until you've spied on a littles munch, just knowing that they're eating at a diner wearing diapers.
What am I supposed to get out of that?





A sense of being superior to everybody else in that room.

Which now makes me want to attend one.


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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 4:26:32 PM   
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I've been to a few munches and encountered a fairly odd bunch of people, I have been to a few fetish clubs and encountered a fairly odd bunch of people. They have issues in the most part, and not good issues. It always seemed to me to be a bit of a freak show for people who couldn't really exist in the world that most of us live in.
I have always felt that anyone who wants total control of someones life,or someone who wants their life totally controlled by another is missing a few cogs in their brain.
It is now no longer a surprise when a poster admits to being an ex- something or other or to having problems in some part of their life that bdsm is clearly covering up.
But hey, have fun guys and girls

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 4:38:25 PM   
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So, Hardy, you're not into BDSM the n?

Aileen! Am I speaking da inglish? I said folks should leave the house and be social instead of sitting behind their computer screens. And meet all kinds of people, not just focus on THE ONE. Munches bleh.

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 4:51:02 PM   
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seems to me a lot of bdsmers don't leave the house often enough, your 16000 posts in 6 years is small fry compared to some here, there are people who post an average of over 30 times a day.
Go outside for fucks sake, the rest of the world is passing you by

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 4:53:55 PM   
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Lots of the time I am outside, posting from my phone. It takes me an average of 30 second to crank out a post. Sometimes the posts are just emoticons in response to some bit of skylarking. It's not like anyone's writing war & peace.

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 4:56:08 PM   
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wasn't having a pop at you lh

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 4:57:06 PM   
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No worries. Whoops, another post!

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 4:59:04 PM   
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keep racking them up girl

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 5:12:31 PM   
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You'll be up to a thousand before you know it!

Honestly, what do folks do to meet? Are they living on Skype? Granted, I've had my share of cyber fun, but that was a relationship enhancement, not the entire thing. The tv is full of ads for dating sites. It is not easy to meet people, you have to work--and be incredibly patient.

Or just be a vinegary old spinster like myself. Twenty years of being all social, I'm ready to make a dish out of Peon and call it a life.

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 5:24:07 PM   
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I am trying to lose the 3 handcuff thing, why the fuck would I need 3 handcuffs?
I understand what you are saying, I have met my last 3 partners via the internet,2 from alt. com and my current and hopefully forever from bondage.com but this side of CM is not the dating part. It;s the "lets talk a lot of shit part"
I know people do get good advice here but I am not sure it is advice they couldn't get from google.......30 posts a day, every day.... bah!
Too many people trying to prove too many points

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 5:31:00 PM   
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I am trying to lose the 3 handcuff thing, why the fuck would I need 3 handcuffs?


Hands together above head handcuffed (with one handcuff) and locked to the headboard. One handcuff around each ankle attached to a spreader bar. Three handcuffs and a night of fun!  There can be many variations to this idea but they all come out the same in the end...

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 5:35:26 PM   
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and then I would need a friend who was ambidextrous to use the 4 paddles that you have, far to complicated

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/6/2011 5:47:18 PM   
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I enjoy watching primitive minds at work.

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/7/2011 12:54:38 AM   
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I enjoy watching primitive minds at work.


Is that why you're staring in the mirror so often? :D

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RE: Why get out to the community? - 9/7/2011 12:55:20 AM   
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Oh that was *so* weak.

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