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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

Prozac and other drugs do a great job at making people numb to emotions and disturbing thoughts. Pretty sad, that if they actually got some physical activitiy and a better diet their moods and sense of self value..might just be a little more healthier.

This is such garbage, I don't even know where to start.

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People take SSRIs when the only emotions they have are the dark, self defeating, self hating and suicidal ones. Changing diet and exercise won't affect suicidal ideation at all.

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ORIGINAL: ForcedEntry4her

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i mean used to when a man would open a door or pull out a chair for a woman it was called being a gentleman. now if he does it, hes called a pig or chauvinist.  when a woman wants to be obedient to a man, society looks at her like shes not a real woman or something.  a man takes control over his woman, and society looks at him like he must be forcing her or she must be a victim.   so do you think society has made it hard for men to be real men and take control?

So.... My ex-wife finds out I have a 24-7 slave. She takes me to court to get my kids taken away. My kids were never involved in any play. All behind closed doors and when they were gone. The judge publicly states for the record I must be perverted and be a sexual predator to abuse women like that. I had to have independent psych evals, a GAL, and I spent 2.5 years / 25,000$ to keep my kids. Any man that did what I did must be a predator /rapist and must be victimizing my "partner". The battle cry of domestic abuse.

So yes, there is a stigma that any man that does what I did must be an abuser. It makes one gun-shy to ever post a picture or come out of the closet.

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ORIGINAL: ForcedEntry4her

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ORIGINAL: texastgirl

i mean used to when a man would open a door or pull out a chair for a woman it was called being a gentleman. now if he does it, hes called a pig or chauvinist.  when a woman wants to be obedient to a man, society looks at her like shes not a real woman or something.  a man takes control over his woman, and society looks at him like he must be forcing her or she must be a victim.   so do you think society has made it hard for men to be real men and take control?

So.... My ex-wife finds out I have a 24-7 slave. She takes me to court to get my kids taken away. My kids were never involved in any play. All behind closed doors and when they were gone. The judge publicly states for the record I must be perverted and be a sexual predator to abuse women like that. I had to have independent psych evals, a GAL, and I spent 2.5 years / 25,000$ to keep my kids. Any man that did what I did must be a predator /rapist and must be victimizing my "partner". The battle cry of domestic abuse.

So yes, there is a stigma that any man that does what I did must be an abuser. It makes one gun-shy to ever post a picture or come out of the closet.

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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

this post further begs the question, then -- "in your opinion, what is a 'real man'?"

This.

I know many men. Most would hold a door for ANYone, not just for a woman. I don't see a man taking control of a woman as a 'real man'. In fact, he could be, just a controlling, insecure, putz.

I do not look at the men in my life as either 'real men' or not. They are human beings first and foremost. Some are more admirable human beings than others. All, every single human being I have ever known, including the men, have faults and weaknesses.

I also will never accept the concept that ANYONE or ANYTHING is ultimately responsible for a grown, adult, mentally sound, human being somehow less other than the person themself.

Any man that blames society or women for their own weaknesses I would immediately have no respect for. LIkewise with women.

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ORIGINAL: BitaTruble

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ORIGINAL: texastgirl

so do you think society has made it hard for men to be real men and take control?

Adults are responsibile for their own fames and foibles, not society. Society may color a view, but not dictate it.. that choice remains our own.. man or woman, so to answer the OP.. no, I don't think so. A *real* man will be a real man in spite of society, not because of it.

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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

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this post further begs the question, then -- "in your opinion, what is a 'real man'?"

One with a penis. That makes them a man. Beyond that they're just people like everybody else.

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However the difference in effect between an SSRI and a placebo is so small that under current regulations, no SSRI would meet the burden of proof required to justify its existence as a palliative.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
However the difference in effect between an SSRI and a placebo is so small that under current regulations, no SSRI would meet the burden of proof required to justify its existence as a palliative.

I've seen that study and it has holes all through it.
And allow me to assure you that a placebo will not lift suicidal ideation. I'm fourth generation mood disorder, until the development of SSRIs we've had at least one suicide per generation. Since then, we've had zero.

You can take a sugar pill next time you have an overwhelming urge to suck the exhaust pipe of your car. See how well it helps you. Me? I'll go right back to the psychiatrist and ask for another round of Zoloft.

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ORIGINAL: leadership527

~fast reply~

OK, we're 6 pages in. Have we figured out what a "real man" is yet? I'd like a summary if there is one please. I've had great fun in all the ways I'm a fake dom. This seems like a whole new way to be fake.

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

Men hold the door open so they can watch the woman's ass. Let's be real. I don't mind. I'll swish a little for you, baby.

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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

I just don't run around like that every day,

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I'll wear a suit when I attend meetings or talk with clients in person

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but most of the time I'm quietly beavering away on the computer and interact in emails or on the phone and I can tell you that then comfort and practicality is the order of the day, leggings and big T-shirts, jeans and sweaters and that kinda stuff.