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ORIGINAL: texastgirl

i mean used to when a man would open a door or pull out a chair for a woman it was called being a gentleman. now if he does it, hes called a pig or chauvinist.  when a woman wants to be obedient to a man, society looks at her like shes not a real woman or something.  a man takes control over his woman, and society looks at him like he must be forcing her or she must be a victim.   so do you think society has made it hard for men to be real men and take control?

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

Prozac and other drugs do a great job at making people numb to emotions and disturbing thoughts. Pretty sad, that if they actually got some physical activitiy and a better diet their moods and sense of self value..might just be a little more healthier.

This is such garbage, I don't even know where to start.

  Unfortunately, it's not.

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People take SSRIs when the only emotions they have are the dark, self defeating, self hating and suicidal ones. Changing diet and exercise won't affect suicidal ideation at all.

  People take SSRIs for a variety of reasons.  However the difference in effect between an SSRI and a placebo is so small that under current regulations, no SSRI would meet the burden of proof required to justify its existence as a palliative.

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this post further begs the question, then -- "in your opinion, what is a 'real man'?"

One with a penis. That makes them a man. Beyond that they're just people like everybody else.

I got banned from that fet  forum because they assumed I said that - which I didn't - although biologically, that is pretty much the case, as an abstraction, "real men" is whole 'nother can of worms.

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this post further begs the question, then -- "in your opinion, what is a 'real man'?"

One with a penis. That makes them a man. Beyond that they're just people like everybody else.

I got banned from that fet  forum because they assumed I said that - which I didn't - although biologically, that is pretty much the case, as an abstraction, "real men" is whole 'nother can of worms.

Quite an astute comment from you both, as far as I'm concerned. Honestly, I do think some women should stop fiddling themselves themselves off to videos of Colin Firth playing Mr D'Arcy and get out of the house a bit more.

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

...and my response was "Listen poppet, when we gave your lot the vote we didn't expect you to give up good manners". And - Totally-true-I-swear-to-god- within 36 hours I was banging my little feminist firebrand like hammer and tongs.

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ORIGINAL: xssve

Too many people who think it's their job to mind other peoples business in this country, that's fer sure.

But speaking of real men...

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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

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ORIGINAL: xssve

Too many people who think it's their job to mind other peoples business in this country, that's fer sure.

But speaking of real men...

I was expecting a pic of Sam Elliot...

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ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss
Men hold the door open so they can watch the woman's ass. Let's be real. I don't mind. I'll swish a little for you, baby.

I hate to say this hun, but most women ain't worth the look at. There's plenty of female flesh on outta shape bodies stuffed inside of rags walking around with an bad attitude. Seriously, what ever happen to somebody having a little self respect for themselves? People seem to be confused. Things such as dressing sexy is showing a lack of self respect for oneself and etc. I almost hate to say it, but it's rather bit of an American Mindset. Also one can dress sexy and not look like trailor park trash as well. There's plenty of women that need to take makeup lessons at Merle Norman or elseware.

More times than not, I'm holding the door open outta basic human respect...not for a look at the ass. The diets and crap loads of garbage people over eat or over indulge in...is mind blowing. There's too many people that don't take even a basic simple walk. You don't have to be hitting the Gym heavy every day to keep in decent shape. It's just the fact, that there's too many what I'm going to call American Fat Asses with very little sense of self respect...they simply don't care about themselves, their health, let alone appearence.

Vanity itself does not equate to narcissism. Yet, this is what many people are taught to believe. In fact, women will give other women who take care of themselves a fucking hard time. Seriously, women can be the biggest bitches to one another compared to how any man would treat a women. At the same time, if a man say shit about stuff he risks being labeled a Misogynist. nah nah.. the world is in perfect order for many people, no matter how backwards it might appear.

What I got to say anyways, doesn't matter, it's not some magic pill one can swallow as a cure to their own fucked up bullshit... Prozac and other drugs do a great job at making people numb to emotions and disturbing thoughts. Pretty sad, that if they actually got some physical activitiy and a better diet their moods and sense of self value..might just be a little more healthier.

Sorry hun, if what I'm saying here is too raw or out there. I'm just expressing my thoughts and opinion on it. There's not enough Ass ends worth the look at. LOL

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~fast reply~

OK, we're 6 pages in. Have we figured out what a "real man" is yet? I'd like a summary if there is one please. I've had great fun in all the ways I'm a fake dom. This seems like a whole new way to be fake.

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I was expecting a pic of Sam Elliot...
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ORIGINAL: tiggerspoohbear

Two pics of Sam Elliott is twice the fun in bed I'd hope. [:D]

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i mean used to when a man would open a door or pull out a chair for a woman it was called being a gentleman. now if he does it, hes called a pig or chauvinist.  when a woman wants to be obedient to a man, society looks at her like shes not a real woman or something.  a man takes control over his woman, and society looks at him like he must be forcing her or she must be a victim.   so do you think society has made it hard for men to be real men and take control?

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
However the difference in effect between an SSRI and a placebo is so small that under current regulations, no SSRI would meet the burden of proof required to justify its existence as a palliative.

I've seen that study and it has holes all through it.

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And allow me to assure you that a placebo will not lift suicidal ideation. I'm fourth generation mood disorder, until the development of SSRIs we've had at least one suicide per generation. Since then, we've had zero.

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You can take a sugar pill next time you have an overwhelming urge to suck the exhaust pipe of your car. See how well it helps you. Me? I'll go right back to the psychiatrist and ask for another round of Zoloft.

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ORIGINAL: texastgirl

i mean used to when a man would open a door or pull out a chair for a woman it was called being a gentleman. now if he does it, hes called a pig or chauvinist.  when a woman wants to be obedient to a man, society looks at her like shes not a real woman or something.  a man takes control over his woman, and society looks at him like he must be forcing her or she must be a victim.   so do you think society has made it hard for men to be real men and take control?

Real men don't care about society.