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pahunkboy -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 12:59:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

The stated goal of the elite is a lower birth rate.   Some might consider that quest to mean turn us all gay. 



so you believe people are gay because of the government putting "chemicals" into our bodies


There is no context for the above quote, either he fucking said it or he didn't.


I beleive that the government is putting chemicals in our body to lower the sperm count and thus the birth rate.

As to context-   you dont see that.  So it is what it is. 




juliaoceania -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 1:02:26 PM)

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I beleive that the government is putting chemicals in our body to lower the sperm count and thus the birth rate.

As to context-   you dont see that.  So it is what it is. 


That ISN'T what he said




pahunkboy -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 1:04:45 PM)

I have to step out for a few hours-  to dinner with the neighbor.  I will be on later tonight.     




juliaoceania -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 1:05:12 PM)

Like I said, you have no credibility with me, accused me of lying when I was telling the truth... I put the quote up there myself.... how anyone could misunderstand what he said it beyond me, it is black and white. it was not a slip of the tongue, it had nothing to do with "sperm count"

I am done with you




Real0ne -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 1:22:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Original: Alex Jones The Liar Scumbag  <-why all the dramatics Julia?  Does it change anything?

The reason there are so many gay people right now is because there is a chemical warfare operation and I have the documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children




Below is your "original" claim that casued 300 posts in the first place


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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Now I can listen to it again I only listened to the first few moments however I did hear that part and the point he was trying to get across from what I could tell was something to do with birth control.


He said the government created gay people

You can try to tippy toe around that, it doesn't change it.



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but the reason there is so many gay people now because its a chemical warfare operation, He said:-->> I have the government documents where they are going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people dont have children, I even catch myself drinking out of these estrogen mamacures.


you state it as a fact that "he said" and he did not say:   "He said the government created gay people"

as you claim.

You have no place to go with this.




juliaoceania -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 1:25:12 PM)

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Original: Alex Jones
The reason there are so many gay people right now is because there is a chemical warfare operation and I have the documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children




Real0ne -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 1:28:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

Like I said, you have no credibility with me, accused me of lying when I was telling the truth... I put the quote up there myself.... how anyone could misunderstand what he said it beyond me, it is black and white. it was not a slip of the tongue, it had nothing to do with "sperm count"

I am done with you



sure thing but it does not change the fact there is a huge difference btween the statement government "created gay people" and "government is encouraging homsexuality".

I am pointing out that you have not shown what he said to be a lie therefore claiming he is lying is not a fact and certainly not truth.

Maintaining that position in light of your knowledge of the distinction may very well be a lie, not his but yours.




SilverMark -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 1:32:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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Original: Alex Jones
The reason there are so many gay people right now is because there is a chemical warfare operation and I have the documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children




To be able to disprove his statement, his statement would have to be credible, and based on some type of evidence aside from his statement that he has such evidence. He has no credibility, to anyone but those who practice his own brand of crazy.




Real0ne -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 1:33:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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Original: Alex Jones
The reason there are so many gay people right now is because there is a chemical warfare operation and I have the documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children


no use talking to someone who lives in a definition less world.

everything is all the same words have no meaning truth is a dream.

thats delusional


First in order to prove he lied you need to show test data that shows his analysis is incorrect with your test data.

Secondly you need to show he was shown the test data was incorrect and continues to falsify the matter.

Smoke em if you got em






Real0ne -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 1:39:14 PM)

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To be able to disprove his statement, his statement would have to be credible


Aside from doublethink I am not sure I even have a label for that line of reasoning since a credible statement cannot be be disproved.


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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

To be able to disprove his statement, his statement would have to be credible, and based on some type of evidence aside from his statement that he has such evidence. He has no credibility, to anyone but those who practice his own brand of crazy.



anytime someone makes a claim the burden of proof (typically) is upon them to prove up the claim.

However when julia comes around and says he is a liar that throws the burden of proof upon her.

she has not met that burden of proof to substantiate her claim.








juliaoceania -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 2:17:49 PM)

Prove that Alex Jones has never lied...

and when you reason out what I just asked you to do, perhaps you will see how ludicrous your position is...

Although I am not going to hold my breath, if this thread has shown me anything, it is you cannot argue with true believers.




SilverMark -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 2:27:14 PM)

His statement that the Government is creating Gay people through chemical warfare, would never be able to be proven, so his base statement is not debatable from either side. He is PROBABLY lying....feel better RO?
Good scientific research has already proven that for sperm counts to be effected, the dosages even for small animals, have to be much greater thanwhat is found in your tube of Crest or in our drinking water. As for his other claims, who knows and who cares? The man is a functioning moron at best, who feeds into the fears of those gullible enough to buy into his snake oil empire.




tazzygirl -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 2:43:26 PM)

JONES: We talked about this over a decade ago and were called kooks. There are thousands of different permutations and different types of plastic. They chose one family of plastics that actually even costs more than a lot of the other formulas, made out of petroleum, that leaks and leaches high levels of estrogen mimicker. And so our boys are feminized and have smaller genitals -- this is -- they've know this for 50 years -- and women are hyper-feminized. And so a woman's breasts at 30 are the breasts of a 70-year-old. That's why so many women are -- you know, biologically -- they don't look like the breasts of a 70-year-old, but the hormonal exchanges have worn the cell DNA out to the point of a 70-year-old.

And so, you know, your 8-year-old goes into puberty when she's a girl, and your boy looks like a girl and acts like a girl, because they are a girl. I mean, you can feed estrogen to a bull, and it'll act like a cow. In fact, it'll even go present itself to another bull to be mounted because it's got a similar brain.

And so, yes. And that's one reason you can't really blame a lot of these people that are gay. You know, people love to hate them and say kill them and stuff. I think it's a destructive lifestyle, but I don't hate these people. But the reason there's so many gay people now is because it's a chemical warfare operation. I have the government documents where they said they're going to encourage homosexuality with chemicals so that people don't have children.

[...]

JONES: Hey, let's stop drinking out of estrogen-mimicking containers. And again, I even catch myself, Bob, drinking out of these estrogen mimickers because it's everywhere.

I mean, take this [holds up juice box]. I don't know, but I should check. This is probably lined with the type of plastic that has it. But I still grabbed this off the shelf this morning. Even though it says it's organic, that's not enough. In fact, let me -- guys, give me a knife so I can tear into this. Let's see if it's lined with it. In fact, it'll probably say it if it's lined with it inside the plastic packaging.

Huh, I wonder if this spring water, natural lime flavor I'm drinking. I know full well H-E-B's putting fluoride in this. Why am I drinking this? I know full well that these Kettle Chips say that they don't have MSG, but they've got the yeast extract thing that say it's MSG.

What's wrong with us? Why won't we stop? Why am I so weak?

[...]

JONES: OK, here is -- for those watching on PrisonPlanet.tv -- here's the inside of this juice box. And if they zoom in any more -- see that thin plastic? It's got it. And I'm letting my children drink this.

Why? All of the juice could be out of a glass bottle. All of it could be healthy. But we see the word "organic." Meanwhile, it's got an estrogen mimicker leaching right out of it. Look at that. See the plastic, folks? It's got a plastic lining. There's the plastic lining.

Great point. Great caller, Bobby. I'm glad you took us on that angle.

What's the name of that newscast? Because I've seen a CBS newscasts admitting and I've seen a BBC newscast. Conclusively, this turns -- you know, I saw the police chief of Fort Worth two weeks ago -- in fact, put it up on the screen for me, guys, if you can find it -- you know, police chief promotes hormone replacement. And he says injections of testosterone for cops because cops need it.

Men, if you're normal and have normal testosterone, that's enough testosterone to get you in a lot of trouble, and you know that. But maybe cops do need testosterone, because after you're done drinking your little juices, well, I mean, you're ready to go out and have a baby. You're ready to put makeup on. You're ready to wear a short skirt. You're ready to go, you know, put together a, you know, garden of roses or something. You're ready to put lipstick on.

I mean, look at this. You know, maybe the globalists are doing me a favor. Maybe I'm too aggressive as a male. Maybe the problem is I'm not drinking enough estrogen-mimicking plastic. Maybe that's the problem.


Seems to me he is saying how men are being turned into girls... which isnt how this works at all. Thats enough of a lie, which HE tells, for me.




Marc2b -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 2:45:13 PM)

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His statement that the Government is creating Gay people through chemical warfare, would never be able to be proven...


Actually, I think you mean disproven since it is impossible to disprove a negative. The existence of a conspiricy to lower sperm counts could be proven (if it actually existed) with photos, documents, etc... but it can never be disproven. This is the fall back posistion of all conspiricy theory nutcases. Nobody can disprove that 9-11 wasn't an inside job by the government. Nobody can disprove that the Illuminati aren't responsible for the poor economy, high fructose corn syrup in our foods and the success of Adam Sandler movies. It works for religion too... nobody can disprove the existence of God.

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For the record: if there is a conspiracy to lower sperm counts then it is not having any affect on me... if the stains on my bedroom ceiling are any criteria to go by. [sm=banana.gif]




jlf1961 -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 3:02:06 PM)

Lets see, per Alex Jones the government is trying to turn the country gay, or limit the birth rate.

To what end? And are the Republicans in on it since they are almost militant in their anti gay views?

Like most conspiracies that involve the government, they dont stand up to logic, and the conspiracies that have been discovered such as Watergate, Iran-Contra etc, was because someone talked.




Marc2b -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 3:11:16 PM)

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Lets see, per Alex Jones the government is trying to turn the country gay, or limit the birth rate.

To what end? And are the Republicans in on it since they are almost militant in their anti gay views?

Like most conspiracies that involve the government, they dont stand up to logic, and the conspiracies that have been discovered such as Watergate, Iran-Contra etc, was because someone talked.


[Emphasis mine]

Marc2b's Conspiracy Theory Axiom (at least, I've never heard any one else make this claim so, until proven otherwise, I'm claiming it).

People blab. It is human nature. Having a secret is fun because it gives you a sense of power and superiority... unless, of course, people don't believe you actually have a secret. Thus, you got to tell at least one person, who then tells one person and so on.

People who can keep secrets seem to be pretty rare.

Hence, the more people involved in a conspiracy the more likely someone will talk... it is smaller conspiracies that will likely succeed (and in any successful conspiracy, only the conspirators will ever know).

Thus Marc2b's Conspiracy Theory Axiom is: The more people alleged to be involved in a conspiracy, the less likely the conspiracy actually exists.




Real0ne -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 3:44:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

His statement that the Government is creating Gay people through chemical warfare, would never be able to be proven, so his base statement is not debatable from either side. He is PROBABLY lying....feel better RO?

Oops julia already proved that he did not say that.  may want to read a few posts back.

Good scientific research has already proven that for sperm counts to be effected, the dosages even for small animals, have to be much greater thanwhat is found in your tube of Crest or in our drinking water. As for his other claims, who knows and who cares? The man is a functioning moron at best, who feeds into the fears of those gullible enough to buy into his snake oil empire.


How much is found in a tube of crest?  I do not recall him mentioning that?





Real0ne -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 3:47:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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Lets see, per Alex Jones the government is trying to turn the country gay, or limit the birth rate.

To what end? And are the Republicans in on it since they are almost militant in their anti gay views?

Like most conspiracies that involve the government, they dont stand up to logic, and the conspiracies that have been discovered such as Watergate, Iran-Contra etc, was because someone talked.


[Emphasis mine]

Marc2b's Conspiracy Theory Axiom (at least, I've never heard any one else make this claim so, until proven otherwise, I'm claiming it).

People blab. It is human nature. Having a secret is fun because it gives you a sense of power and superiority... unless, of course, people don't believe you actually have a secret. Thus, you got to tell at least one person, who then tells one person and so on.

People who can keep secrets seem to be pretty rare.


Hence, the more people involved in a conspiracy the more likely someone will talk... it is smaller conspiracies that will likely succeed (and in any successful conspiracy, only the conspirators will ever know).

Thus Marc2b's Conspiracy Theory Axiom is: The more people alleged to be involved in a conspiracy, the less likely the conspiracy actually exists.


yeh thats pretty ridiculous, and more so tends to illustrate the total lack of integrity of your associates than anything.




Real0ne -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 3:49:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Lets see, per Alex Jones the government is trying to turn the country gay, or limit the birth rate.

To what end? And are the Republicans in on it since they are almost militant in their anti gay views?

Like most conspiracies that involve the government, they dont stand up to logic, and the conspiracies that have been discovered such as Watergate, Iran-Contra etc, was because someone talked.


why did they do lsd experiments on both americans and canadians?

(only to get the shit sued out them)  lol




tazzygirl -> RE: Alex Jones Creates Hysteria Amongst His Readers/Listeners (6/25/2011 3:50:12 PM)

Try this

As detailed below, most "Colgate for Kids" toothpastes - with flavors ranging from bubble gum to watermelon - contain 143 milligrams (mg) of fluoride in each tube. This dose of fluoride is more than double the dose (60 mg) that could kill the average-weighing 2 year old child. It is also greater than the dose capable of killing all average weighing children under the age of 9.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/toothpaste.html

According to the chart there, a 2 year old would have to consume 42% of a tube. A 9 year old, the whole thing.




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