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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 7:07:36 AM   
Mercnbeth


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Status: offline 		Can someone identify ONE activity associated with what is called the "lifestyle" that does NOT have some associated risk? Should there be a government task force set up to research and then publish their findings in a pamphlet documenting the risks? Should the "toys" be required to have permanent labels such as; "WARNING - single tails can cause serious injury"? Better yet, how about requiring that before all activity we use a marker indicating the exact location and the maximum impact pressure allowed.

I appreciate all the experts trying to help, but really, does anyone not realize there is risk associated with lifestyle activities? The easiest way to reduce the risk is take some time to know the person you are interacting, read about the activity from various sources, talk with people who have actually participated in the activity, and, ideally, view a demo or watch a scene of the activity and afterward ask the participants any question necessary to ease your anxiety. You know what most of the demonstrators will say? Be careful, know about the risks, account for the risks and try to eliminate as many of the causes as possible, but inherently you are engaging in a activity that can cause injury.

Face slapping "expert"? Similar to a "expert" pilot, "expert" driver, or "expert" anything; there is still the risk of something going wrong. The "expert" driver or pilot can't do anything about a mechanical problem, and the "expert" face slapper can't rely that the face he's slapping won't flinch and move a couple inches turning the "pulled slap" a 'bullseye' resulting in a broken nose, or a detached retina.

Consider the risk. Better yet, use the unpopular advise and get to know your partner and his/her reputation and experience from more than a 5 minute conversation at the club, or last night's "intense" cyber "session". 

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 7:42:39 AM   
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It's always been a hard limit for me.

But you all make it sound so intriguing.....

DAMN I hate it when one of my hard limits goes soft.


LOL My most recent ex challenged 2 of my hard limits, and face-slapping was one of them. I wouldn't have dreamt of it appealling to me, but the soft, yet definite slap he delivered to my well-supported face, sent me in quite a blissfull state.

Now I have to hesitate to list it as a hard limit, but it's something I don't want to do with just anyone. Maybe it's not a hard limit now, but a squishy one? LOL

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 7:56:18 AM   
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Face slapping was amusing the few times I did it to my submissive.  She sank into subspace almost instantly.

A lot of it is about targetting.  Cupping her jaw and cheek in my left hand, gazing adoringly into her eyes, and then striking swiftly but not overly powerfully at the left side of her face below the level of the eyes and ears (jaw, lower cheek).  Preventing the skull from moving in any direction with the other hand.

Rub the face a bit.  Lean in for a kiss.  Then softly, gently, cup the left side of her face with that hand, repeat on the right side of her face.

Rinse, repeat as needed.  Wait, this is not shampoo.

I have spent so much time not clobbering students in class, as well as targetting my strikes, and exercising control in the amount of force I strike with, that Im not overly concerned that I will miss and make her look like Michael Jackson (Where did my nose go?)
after his most recent surgery.  It is, however, something which has the potential to be damaging and I suggest starting out soft and working one's way up in terms of intensity while checking in with the one being struck to find out how she/he is doing with it.

But that is just me, and I could be wrong.

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 8:56:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'd see it as an expression of how much you like it, that you use it regularly, and that you've taken the time to learn how to do it safely.

The levels of "expertise" are very fluid on the lists I think. This isn't a college where we earn degrees in the activities or interests afterall.


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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 11:59:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: feastie

Are we trying to slap someone to achieve an effect or are we trying to knock their head off?  If you're feeling the need to slap hard enough to cause damage, then perhaps you should have yourself a time out. 




Never said that I was doing it with the intent of causing damage.  Simply illustrating how simple it is to damage the head, since the bones and muscles of the face and upper neck are exceptionally easy to damage.  Chihuahua's bite with more psi than it takes to damage anything from the neck up.

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 2:52:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: knees2you
Wouldn't this be like being an expert at
"Verbal abuse"
 


Just wanted to point out that verbal abuse is a highly refinable skill!  Expertise requires a sharp mind, a way with words, and an intuition about others' weak spots.

But yeah, of course some things take less skill than others.  You can't get a Phd in TV-watching.

Also...with bdsm activities, you can be an expert on either end - can you be an expert at taking a good face-slapping?  How about at taking a BAD face-slapping?  How about at never deserving to get your face slapped? ;)

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 3:03:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: knees2you

Was just looking at some profiles
and was noticing that some Domms
Have listed  as them being an expert at
"Face Slapping"
 
Wouldn't this be like being an expert at
"Verbal abuse"
 
To me it doesn't sound very hard to do?
 
I know You can be come an expert at alot
of things...
 
Just wondering if You can be an expert at
"Face Slapping?"
Or if it's something anybody knows?
 
Ant,


Yes there is a difference between being a expert and a novice at face slapping.  You need to take into consideration the dangers of hitting the face and causing damage to the jaw, neck and spinal cord. This is not  something that You just whale off and do, you need to have a exact target in mind and know the person well that you are doing the face slapping with.

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 3:03:44 PM   
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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 3:09:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Face slapping is knowing how to pull your punches...kinda like pulling out, but when you fail with pulling a punch you leave a bruise, when you fail at pulling out you pay child support.
Guess that's why I like face slapping!

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 4:54:36 PM   
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How many faces must one slap to become an expert?  Is there a quota for how many times something must be done to qualify as an expert, or does one get nominated?  I wonder if the slappee would also say the slapper is an expert....  ;) 
  


LMAO. I said the same thing recently in my journal here... 

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When I first starting smacking girls around, my aim wasn't as good, nor was my knowledge of how much force to apply—one can easily overdo it. Over time I developed grace in execution and accuracy, learning along the way that it's good to cradle the face in one hand and slap with the other, to avoid muscular stress of the neck and keep her pretty little face still.  


Smacking girls around?  I really hope this is a joke post... but it probably isn't


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think that there are probably people that could demonstrate this through your local club or BDSM association, and most larger cities have demonstrations on how to do many things from bondage to caning. If not a public demo, then perhaps someone at another event with some expertise would demonstrate it for you.  
 

Yes, Doms, please attend a face-slapping workshop or three. OMG this thread is fucking hysterical.

quote:

Can someone identify ONE activity associated with what is called the "lifestyle" that does NOT have some associated risk? Should there be a government task force set up to research and then publish their findings in a pamphlet documenting the risks? Should the "toys" be required to have permanent labels such as; "WARNING - single tails can cause serious injury"? Better yet, how about requiring that before all activity we use a marker indicating the exact location and the maximum impact pressure allowed. 


Yes, we definately need more liberal politicians to set up a task force to make sure everyone is being slapped properly.

DO YOU PEOPLE REALLY NEED A DIAGRAM TO SLAP SOMEONE IN THE FACE?

Cup the face lightly with the non-slapping hand and then...

jesus I really should not read here.

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 5:20:12 PM   
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Yes, we definately need more liberal politicians to set up a task force to make sure everyone is being slapped properly.

DO YOU PEOPLE REALLY NEED A DIAGRAM TO SLAP SOMEONE IN THE FACE?

Cup the face lightly with the non-slapping hand and then...

jesus I really should not read here.

 
Well now, this Summs it up Very well!
 
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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 5:57:13 PM   
Alumbrado


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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 6:11:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe they should have a choice under face slapping, of either giving or getting. I bet there are many experts in getting their faces slapped.

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 6:21:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dustyn

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ORIGINAL: feastie

Are we trying to slap someone to achieve an effect or are we trying to knock their head off?  If you're feeling the need to slap hard enough to cause damage, then perhaps you should have yourself a time out. 




Never said that I was doing it with the intent of causing damage.  Simply illustrating how simple it is to damage the head, since the bones and muscles of the face and upper neck are exceptionally easy to damage.  Chihuahua's bite with more psi than it takes to damage anything from the neck up.

- Dustyn



I just used fast reply, Dustyn, my comments were not directed at you.

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 6:24:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've been slapped, on numerous occasions.  Typically, just before a blow job, cause Master liked how much hotter my mouth was when I was crying .  I've also been made to slap him...to teach me to be strong enough to care for myself, stand up for myself and my children if I need to.

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 6:30:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Kinda the same idea...

I was in the sporting section of the walmart today, and was thinking about buying a set of boxing gloves for my domme... Worth while investment - as a toy? 

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 6:50:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: WeeIttyBitty

Kinda the same idea...

I was in the sporting section of the walmart today, and was thinking about buying a set of boxing gloves for my domme... Worth while investment - as a toy? 



I couldn't say, WeeIttyBitty...

Slapping Master was one of the hardest things I'd ever done.  He had to get in my face and yell at me to push me to it.  He actually said something horrible involving my daughter and that's what finally took me over the edge.  It took quite awhile and I bawled all the way through it. But I slapped the dogshit out of him..lol. 

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 7:26:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: feastie
Slapping Master was one of the hardest things I'd ever done.  He had to get in my face and yell at me to push me to it.  He actually said something horrible involving my daughter and that's what finally took me over the edge.  It took quite awhile and I bawled all the way through it. But I slapped the dogshit out of him..lol. 


Well, it is just me, and I could be wrong, but...

I would not attempt to harm a person when I was upset.  I would defend myself, but the problem with allowing my anger and emotions access to my physical strength and skill is I would end up doing Time in the Big House.

Im not going there.  And having lots of experience in adrenalized and emotional situations I simply go silent and wait for the other person to calm down.

I would not consider myself having enough control to have a submissive if I allowed my anger to control what I said to her.

If I was a submissive I would be on the first train out of town if said person attempted to bag on my children.

But that is just me, and I could be wrong.

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/16/2006 7:30:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I guess I didn't express it clearly enough.  He wasn't being abusive, he wasn't angry, he didn't MEAN what he said about my daughter.  He goaded me into slapping him to teach me that I possessed the strength to stand up for myself and mine...because eventually, I would need that strength, I would need to know that I can stand up.  It was also to teach me that even Master could cross the line, that he can and does make mistakes and that I can and should stand my ground when necessary.  It keeps me from being abused.

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RE: Face Slapping. Your an Expert!? - 5/17/2006 3:19:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: feastie

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dustyn

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ORIGINAL: feastie

Are we trying to slap someone to achieve an effect or are we trying to knock their head off?  If you're feeling the need to slap hard enough to cause damage, then perhaps you should have yourself a time out. 




Never said that I was doing it with the intent of causing damage.  Simply illustrating how simple it is to damage the head, since the bones and muscles of the face and upper neck are exceptionally easy to damage.  Chihuahua's bite with more psi than it takes to damage anything from the neck up.

- Dustyn



I just used fast reply, Dustyn, my comments were not directed at you.


That's kewl, feastie.  Just wanted to clear it up, just in case. =)

- Dustyn


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