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Where you fail...spectacularly fail is your idiot assertion that I am accurate because "you are willing to screw over the workforce that put you in power to begin with". Wow, man, that was really fucking stupid! It has nothing to do about "fucking over the workforce" man...power to the people and all of your other trite bullshit.
Now wait a sec... that was before I saw the post where you wave your credentials as a thief
Practice your eventual criminal defense somewhere else. And for GOD'S SAKE ... GET A COMPETENT ATTORNEY
You have been revealed a fool. You ad hominem attacks mean nothing. You are the typical liberal idiot that has no idea what he is talking about, requires a nanny state thus he argues for more government and tries to be too cute by half rather than address an argument. You have become as irrelevant as so many other liberals on this board.
I've noticed one of your central defenses: insult the other guy, because your arguement is lacking. Usually the insults only go so far, before the Admins step in, and put you on ice for a while. If I were you, I would consider being less of a hostile person, and more of a patient one. But while we are on the topic of 'nanny states', could you properly define the conservative nanny state? It does exist in theory (much like the liberal nanny state). And no, its not the exact opposite of the liberal version. Most people, once they hear the answer nod and say "yeah, that makes perfect sense".
You 'diss' liberals, but seemingly forgot one fine point: Liberals vote TOO. Some of them really do vote for people you DONT want in office, just because you do the same to them. An yes, the current 'crop' of conservatives running for the GOP ticket is laughable at best, and scary at worst.
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Tell me, bright boy, do higher taxes incentivize the private sector? Or do higher taxes take money out of the economy? How many private sector jobs does it take to support one public sector job? So if your scumbag pres hired 16,000 new IRS agents, how many private sector jobs had he have better created to pay for them? How many private sector jobs has your boy created? If the government wanted to "create" private sector jobs, how do you think the government would go about doing that? Would increasing taxes accomplish that goal?
You have absolutely no idea how federal spending works. Nor how its divided up, who gets what, and what goes where. Do you really believe the money simply vanishs into thin air the moment the accountant gives the 'ok' for it to be spent from federal coffers? Do you know how much $10 Billion in federal spending, buys in US Jobs? About 65,000. The majority of those jobs are.....PRIVATE SECTOR. It must be shocking for someone that spews more insults than a 4th grader; but that really is the truth. Likewise, how many public sector jobs does it take to support one private sector job? Yeah, the opposite of your question. I'm willing to bet you've never stopped and thought about it that way. Surely public sector folks spend money on bills, cloths, food, rent, etc?
The goverment creates private sector jobs every day. The goverment needs products (whether raw material or finished good), and knowledgable persons to handle a whirlwind of tasks, concepts, and machinery. Or are all those people from Boeing REALLY public sector employees in your book? Those folks that load vending machines from Pepsi, are public sector employees? In fact, the $846 Billion Defense budget, pays for quite a chunk of Middle Class America's paychecks. Are they all public sector employees? Seems in your book, they are.....all of them.
An yes, increasing taxes would create/maintain jobs. Otherwise, cutting $10 Billion results in about 65,000 Americans losing their jobs (private, public and those 'down stream' of both). Every $100 Billion would be about 700,000-950,000 Jobs (scale of economics as explained by the CBO a few months back). So, cutting huge swathes of jobs....DURING....a recession, is a good idea to you? Please, by all means, present a rational arguement for how this is a good thing during really high unemployment and very low job growth?
An finally, spare us the petty insults. It does nothing but undermine your arguement(s).
You are absolutely right. I call you and stern skipper stupid because both of you guys ARE FUCKING STUPID. In your post you said that raising taxes creates jobs. Didn't you say that, Dumbo? Well if that is the case, why were millions of jobs created under Bush? If raising taxes creates jobs, why didn't O'scumbag raise taxes last year when he consented to an extension of the Bush tax cuts. If raising taxes creates jobs, why don't have have a 90% tax bracket?
Yes....you two are some of the dumbest people on this board and it is impossible to listen to your idiot drivel and not get frustrated. Tell me the mechanics of HOW THE GOVERNMENT CREATES PRIVATE SECTOR JOBS THROUGH TAXATION OR ANY OTHER MEANS. Go ahead, moron...give us your wisdom. The government can encourage private sector jobs through federal small business loans but that really isn't encouraging business through taxation because the repayment of those loans so result in a profit for America at large. Right???? So how else do they create jobs? By cutting taxes.
I know...go ask that genius, Stern Skipper, he has all the answers. You dim wits may very well get the America you are hoping for; an America with a 50% tax bracket (but with so many of our earners fleeing the country, I don't know who is going to pay it), an American with a 13% payroll tax (and such a massive spike in unemployment and the payment of workers under the table that the government takes in EVEN LESS MONEY), an America with cap and trade, an America without the mortgage interest deduction, an American with absolutely NO manufacturing base; a socialist America. That's fine, but it will be a hell on earth. But I guess when everyone has to live to your standard of failure, you will finally be happy. Ahoy there, Skipper!! :)
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