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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 5:50:46 AM   
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Exactly. You have to wonder at the OP's issues with women for specifically omitting that part of the quote then asking if it showed that women were "gold diggers".

Maybe "the OP's issues" is that he thought it would be an interesting, thought-provoking, and perhaps mayhem filled thread.

Dumbass.

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Why did you edit out the part of the quote that showed the percentage of women who wouldn't marry if they themselves were unemployed if you were interested in discussing the article itself, rather than whether women were "gold diggers" or not?

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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:00:16 AM   
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Why did you edit out the part of the quote that showed the percentage of women who wouldn't marry if they themselves were unemployed if you were interested in discussing the article itself, rather than whether women were "gold diggers" or not?


i do have to wonder about that.
i mean, if you're intending to create a controversial thread, then i can sorta see why you'd leave the other half of the statistic off (see, this is why i say statistics are hilariously subjective and can be read any way you want =p). you have a point you're trying to make, or you're trying to inflame people on purpose? or what?

when i was at my old college, my roommate at the time had a gold-digger boyfriend. he constantly bragged about coming from a wealthy family (and he did, but they'd cut him off because he spent loads on pot and blew off college and lazed around all day), and he owed her about $500 by the end of the semester. he was nearly 30, and she was 18. her parents also had a good amount of money and would give her basically anything she asked for, and TONS of that stuff was being funneled towards this asshat she was dating. =p

gold-diggers come in XX and XY versions.


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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:00:33 AM   
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If on the other hand he had been out of work for a lengthy time and was clearly not looking, no thanks.


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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:01:07 AM   
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Why did you edit out the part of the quote that showed the percentage of women who wouldn't marry if they themselves were unemployed if you were interested in discussing the article itself, rather than whether women were "gold diggers" or not?

Because it highlighted the difference in the two statistics, and would make for "an interesting, thought-provoking, and perhaps mayhem filled thread".

Want me to write it s l o w e r  so you can have time to comprehend it this time?

geez, some people ...

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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:06:38 AM   
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Want me to write it s l o w e r so you can have time to comprehend it this time?


Could you? Some of us are still waking up and haven't had coffee yet.


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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:06:41 AM   
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The article showed that a clear majority of women would not want to get married with any financial uncertainty, yet half the numbers are omitted only so he could ask whether women are gold diggers. Which is even more of a leap, considering that wanting financial security (for both spouses) before entering into a legal partnership is entirely different from entering into a marriage solely for financial advantage.

The article doesn't mention how many of the interviewed women are unemployed themselves. I find it amusing that the OP assumes the woman would be the one at a financial disadvantage looking for an employed spouse to take care of her financially, rather than assuming the woman would be an employed woman who wants a spouse with similar (or even less, but still steady) income.

Hence my comment - issues with women.

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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:09:06 AM   
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Because it highlighted the difference in the two statistics, and would make for "an interesting, thought-provoking, and perhaps mayhem filled thread".

Want me to write it s l o w e r  so you can have time to comprehend it this time?

geez, some people ...

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No, it's okay. I fully comprehend the fact that you thought it would be more interesting to discuss women being gold diggers than it would be to discuss that the majority of women expect to live in two income households when they are married.

Perfectly clear.

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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:16:53 AM   
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Perfectly clear.

Got you to read and post, didn't I? 

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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:17:10 AM   
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a woman seeking a healthy employed male as a partner is logical and at the same time primitive, the law of nature, for whilst a woman produces the offspring, the man is responsible for feeding the offspring and the woman, the mama bird in the nest scenario.


I wouldn't name it primitive...if a partner contributes well to the family (or as I mentioned in my example at least similar to what I would be able to bring to the table) then it increases the chance for the kids to have a stable life...whereas if the partner is unemployed and from the nature that he does not want to do much (as some are) then it is likely to add another strain to the family and therefore to the kids....and also increases at times the pressure on the woman to earn more to being able to pay bills.

I also disagree these days about the view of the mama being at home...whilst of course some families are lucky to be able to manage their lives in this way, in many families both partners do work despite having kids...and also due to him being able to contribute ok to the family as well it makes it easier to afford childcare to enable both to work.

I doubt to ever be a stay at home mum, however I also would not feed a guy through due to him earning very little and then it being cheaper to let him stay at home then getting the kid into the kindergarden or having constantly nagg him to find more work. Then quite frankly I would still prefer to do all on my own as a single mum than to have such drama in my life with a bloke.

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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:20:22 AM   
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Perfectly clear.

Got you to read and post, didn't I? 

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Yeah but usually when I post a thread I try to avoid encouraging those I consider to be dumbasses from posting.

Unless I'm just trolling. Then the more the merrier.

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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:23:32 AM   
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Yeah but usually when I post a thread I try to avoid encouraging those I consider to be dumbasses from posting.

Unless I'm just trolling. Then the more the merrier.

Making unwarranted assumptions about peoples' "issues" is how you earned your description.

Here's another thread for ya ... I'm sure you can assume all kinds of stuff about me now ...

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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:27:48 AM   
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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:32:54 AM   
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Want me to write it s l o w e r so you can have time to comprehend it this time?


Could you? Some of us are still waking up and haven't had coffee yet.

Sorry about that zephyr, I haven't had my coffee either, so perhaps I was a bit too acerbic and harsh. 

Apologies to the rest of the thread readers and posters.  I have a streak of impatience at times, with dense people, that I work on overcoming.

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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:41:04 AM   
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I dont WANT to be in the financial shape I am in right now, god knows I'd love to pay off EVERYTHING..  but since I dont see that happening anytime soon, I would require a partner that is not only employed/employable/actively seeking a job.  Oh, and I MUST love him (whether that love is the type that is simply comfy and content - which is very ok - or the mad passionate type... which is also ok, although I kinda distrust it)

long night at work, and  I'm not sure if I am making sense...

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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:41:08 AM   
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Want me to write it s l o w e r so you can have time to comprehend it this time?


Could you? Some of us are still waking up and haven't had coffee yet.

Sorry about that zephyr, I haven't had my coffee either, so perhaps I was a bit too acerbic and harsh. 

Apologies to the rest of the thread readers and posters.  I have a streak of impatience at times, with dense people, that I work on overcoming.

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Actually I agree with you so no harm no foul. I wasn't being serious in the least. About the coffee, don't you have a woman who brings it to you?


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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:49:44 AM   
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Women like security, responsible men.

I would date somebody who was unemployed if their situation was such to explain it, ie, disabled, retired, actively seeking work, doing a job from home, etc. Provided I could see that they had led responsible lives that is.

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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 6:53:08 AM   
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About the coffee, don't you have a woman who brings it to you?

Actually, yes, I do, and that is one of our morning rituals.

But ... its Saturday, and I'm letting her sleep in today ...

I love my gold-diggin' wife, yanno ...

We had an interesting conversation about this entire subject last night, because of her history with men, and what my line of work has been.

I'm a self-employed professional, and actually do pretty well, but when you are meeting people on the 'net, and you tell them that your "self-employed, and work from home" for some reason the picture of an out-of-work, kinda lazy plumber-with-butt-crack-showing is a mental picture that can come to mind.

I think she actually wasn't sure whether that was me or not, until she Googled and found some of my professional work online.

We giggle about it sometimes.

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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 7:06:10 AM   
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One is more the truth and the other is more what they would like to be true. But isn't.

the comparison isn't an either/or and there is no irony. The author linked 2 things that aren't actually related.
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75% of women wouldn't marry someone who was unemployed, and 65% wouldn't tie the knot if they themselves were jobless.

This simply speaks to reality. It doesn't say that women won't date unemployed men or have relationships with them. The full quote just says that most women will not marry unless both partners are working. The variance can be attributed to those who would marry if the potential spouse made enough to support the family without a second income.
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91 percent of single women say they would marry for love over money.

This actually is sort of an either/ or, but really has nothing to do with whether women would marry someone who is unemployed or not. A woman who chooses to marry a blue collar worker that she loves over an executive that she doesn't has chosen love over money, nothing to do with anyone being unemployed.



Marriage does carry a lot along with it. There is a lot more to consider than there is just with dating.

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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 7:19:25 AM   
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people start threads for all sorts reasons

if you want to talk about tea you dont talk about coffee

its firms point you wanna make a point start a thread

and some women are gold diggers look at all the bimbos in uk who purposively go after footballers

remember watching a tv prog where a bunch women said they only go out with footballers

look at posh spice she was only in spice girls because was a fabricated band and since has been seen and ridden on coat tails of beckham brand

but then it does make sense for him to been with a pretty (cough) girl on his arm

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RE: Women: Realistic or Gold Diggers? - 7/9/2011 7:23:32 AM   
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I fully comprehend the fact that you thought it would be more interesting to discuss women being gold diggers than it would be to discuss that the majority of women expect to live in two income households when they are married.
Well, if he did think that, he'd pretty much be right, don't you think? I mean really, how many pages do you think the "two-income" thread would go?

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