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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 10:21:56 AM   
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Its starts with a "C".

I'll guess Constitution. He was an anti-Federalist.

K.



BINGO!


I was at a talk the other day and during the course stated that its a "CON"stitution.   and stated my reasons in that it was not made to protect our rights but put create what amounts to a feudal contract and instead of one we now have 51 sovereigns with virtually identical power as the ruling english monarchs.

One guy from the crowd approached me and told about Patrick Henry and his position on the matter.   Its nice to see that he agrees with me.


I shall be told I am continually afraid, but sir, I have strong cause of apprehension.

In some parts of the plan before you, the great rights of freemen are endangered; in other parts, absolutely taken away.

How does your trial by jury stand?

In civil cases gone, not sufficiently secured in criminal
– this best privilege is gone.

But we are told that we need not fear because those in power, being our representatives, will not abuse the powers we put in their hands.

I am not well versed in history, but I will submit to your recollection whether liberty has been destroyed most often by the licentiousness of the people or by the tyranny of rulers.

I imagine, sir, you will find the balance on the side of tyranny.

Happy will you be if you miss the fate of those nations who, omitting to resist their oppressors or negligently suffering their liberty to be wrested from them, have groaned under intolerable despotism!

Most of the human race are now in this deplorable condition, and those nations who have gone in search of grandeur, power and splendor have also fallen a sacrifice and been the victims of their own folly.

While they acquired those visionary blessings, they lost their freedom.

My great objection to this government is that it does not leave us the means of defending our rights or of waging war against tyrants.

It is urged by some gentlemen that this new plan will bring us an acquisition of strength: an army and the militia of the states.

This is an idea extremely ridiculous; gentlemen cannot be earnest.

This acquisition will trample on our fallen liberty.

Let my beloved Americans guard against that fatal lethargy that has pervaded the universe.

Have we the means of resisting disciplined armies when our only defense, the militia, is put into the hands of Congress?

The honorable gentleman said that great danger would ensue if the Convention rose without adopting this system.

I ask: Where is that danger?

I see none.

Other gentlemen have told us within these walls that the Union is gone, or that the Union will be gone.

Is not this trifling with the judgment of their fellow citizens?

Till they tell us the grounds of their fears, I will consider them as imaginary.



YEP!

The constitution completely wipes out the "Rights of Man" and exchanges them for "Grant of privileges and immunities" from the sovereign king.   (aka the federal guv)

Henry understood and saw through the bait and switch and brought it to the floor.

To Patrick Henry







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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 11:03:03 AM   
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i was told there would be cupcakes.

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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 11:08:50 AM   
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Chocolate cupcakes with chocolate frosting ?? 

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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 11:17:01 AM   
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hmmmm i was thinking white cupcakes with that super sweet pink icing and sprinkles but we can have both :) it is a bipartisan effort

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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 11:22:26 AM   
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making  u a batch of cupcakes with chocolate, white icing , and carrot cake.
Oh and something for the non icing peeps, banana nut bread.



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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 11:23:00 AM   
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Chess?
A lot of these types were chess fiends.

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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 11:25:05 AM   
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oooh

i should pop into the conspiracy threads more often if i get homemade cupcakes <3

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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 11:41:27 AM   
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I feel absolutely zero guilt in hijacking a conspiracy thread when only the OP gives a damn about it:)and its tasty too


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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 11:49:14 AM   
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What's in the white icing? Is it the really sweet crisp stuff?

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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 11:55:32 AM   
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threee types, icing sugar,butter  n vanilla... icing sugar butter  and almond or chocolate, cocoa, butter an icing...buttercream type for me, Im old fashioned.

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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 12:04:19 PM   
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Cool.

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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 12:05:41 PM   
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Damn the tornados, full speed ahead!!!!

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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 12:12:53 PM   
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Harry Is that YOU?????

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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 12:16:52 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAXZDPO7Ar0

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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 12:26:30 PM   
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whoda thunked it huh?

far different from what is taught in the public schools!


In some parts of the plan before you, the great rights of freemen are endangered; in other parts, absolutely taken away.

How does your trial by jury stand?

In civil cases gone, not sufficiently secured in criminal
– this best privilege is gone.





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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 12:49:19 PM   
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public schools?  you had public schools?  I guess when you are a subject of the crown you get that.  We had to use the back of shovels and write with coal, used to walk 23 miles to school, and it was uphill both ways, why we was so poor when I went to school, I got some hand me down shoes, one size 9, one size 11, and both for the same foot.     

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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 12:52:19 PM   
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threee types, icing sugar,butter  n vanilla... icing sugar butter  and almond or chocolate, cocoa, butter an icing...buttercream type for me, Im old fashioned.


But I am allergic to almonds!


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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 1:15:36 PM   
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Harry Is that YOU?????
Yep, just Me and my Arrow...


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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 8:30:28 PM   
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I feel absolutely zero guilt in hijacking a conspiracy thread when only the OP gives a damn about it:)and its tasty too



you get the gold star!

not even jlf has the balls to call patrick henry a conspirator.

Hijacking a thread is a TOS violation you know, are you trying to get the mods to delete the thread?


SO it follows that its ok to dump a load of manure in your living room because you are the only one who care.

nice logic....

Patrick Henry was a country man and he exposed the fraud right on the floor and of course that is the last thing certain people want talked about in the open public huh....




Interesting political position though.

So you believe I am the only one who gives a rats ass about the law that governs this country? 

From what I have seen out here you may be right.,




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RE: Patrick Henry is top shelf! - 7/12/2011 8:34:17 PM   
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public schools?  you had public schools?  I guess when you are a subject of the crown you get that.  We had to use the back of shovels and write with coal, used to walk 23 miles to school, and it was uphill both ways, why we was so poor when I went to school, I got some hand me down shoes, one size 9, one size 11, and both for the same foot.     



nope I didnt go to a public school, nor did I walk over 90feet snowbanks or wear hand me down clothes.   I cant relate to that level of education.





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