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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/17/2011 11:59:31 PM   
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The only difference is that Americans have a right to keep and bear arms written into their law... It's time to drag this part of US law out of the 1790s, repeal the Second Amendment and put in its place something which reflects the realities of the 21st century.

To say that's the only difference is so obviously absurd it defies comment. It's time to drag yourself into reality:

International evidence and comparisons have long been offered as proof of the mantra that more guns mean more deaths and that fewer guns, therefore, mean fewer deaths. Unfortunately, such discussions are all too often been afflicted by misconceptions and factual error and focus on comparisons that are unrepresentative....

Looking at Tables 1–3, it is easy to find nations in which very high gun ownership rates correlate with very low murder rates, while other nations with very low gun ownership rates have much higher murder rates. Moreover, there is not insubstantial evidence that in the United States widespread gun availability has helped reduce murder and other violent crime rates. On closer analysis, however, this evidence appears uniquely applicable to the United States.


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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/18/2011 7:54:51 AM   
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I tried to point out early on that Canada has rifles as a necessary tool. In fact I think the firearms ownership in the Dominion is higher then the US, though certainly more are rifles.

You get more then a hundred miles from the border and almost everyone seems to have one. As I noted, a rifle, a chainsaw, and a boat were pretty much standard family equipment where I was raised. My woman, who normally doesn't eat red meat, ignores that personal taboo when the moose meat appears.

You get into the upper parts of any of the non-Maratime provinces and they start becoming food providing tools, a lot of people in the northern parts of the country still subsistence hunt. Canada might lean on handguns a bit more, and cut down on who can have automatic weapons, but unless Ottawa wants to abandon much of the northern part of the country, they are going have rifles available at least. Never mind the shotguns the farmers have and think they need.

Alaska is no different.

And while I have treaty rights to live on either side of the border, I still had to take the test, and that involved some study. From what I learned changing the constitution to abolish guns and the militia would essentially rewrite the relationship between the states and the federal government. Most US states seem to have similar provisions in their constitutions. so not only would you have to get them to agree to such an material change of the federal constitution, but also to rewrite their own. Getting two thirds of the US states to do this set of things is a lost cause. Then there are all the state laws, and the whole common law of the US to deal with.

Most British don't realize each US state has its own little army and many have air forces and naval assets too, and these are normally independent of the federal government unless called to service. States also have their own militia laws, and some extend the service to all adults of either sex between 18 and 65.

It would be similar to if  the Commonwealth deciding to abolish the monarchy and replace it with the 'president' of England being the head of state of every member, surely  it is possible, but is very unlikely to happen as getting all the Commonwealth members to agree on such a thing.

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/18/2011 8:20:05 AM   
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http://www.frenchu.com/gun/guns_dianne.html

Diane Fienstein waving AK-47

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/18/2011 8:38:16 AM   
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http://www.frenchu.com/gun/guns_dianne.html

Diane Fienstein waving AK-47

Not Found... so I backed out of the path and tried www.frenchu.com:

Error 652

You have encountered an extremely rare error. Error 652 has long been shrouded in total governmental secrecy. Please do not report to anyone that you saw this error. You did not read this page. This page was never here.


Too funny!

K.

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/18/2011 1:56:59 PM   
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"There are many in power who have tried awfully hard"

Ok....
Name names.

Obama / Biden.......Ya want more ?

Is this the same crew that signed a law allowing gun possession in national parks?  Gimmee an "anti-gun" position of theirs.

BTW, most women are attacked from behind.  A gun in the purse would be useless; a gun in a holster may be out of reach, or not reachable after the takedown.  That's how someone can be raped even if they're carrying a .38.

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/18/2011 2:10:26 PM   
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Yes it is, site was there when I checked it. 

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/18/2011 2:13:17 PM   
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Diane Fienstein  "If I could get 51 votes in the senate to collect every gun I would. That isn't going to happen so I am pushing the assault weapons ban."

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/18/2011 3:04:20 PM   
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www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/dianne_f.html - Cached
Here is another one with Fienstein being irresponsible with AK47
This one should be there.

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/18/2011 3:05:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: outhere69

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
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ORIGINAL: Owner59
"There are many in power who have tried awfully hard"

Ok....
Name names.

Obama / Biden.......Ya want more ?

Is this the same crew that signed a law allowing gun possession in national parks?  Gimmee an "anti-gun" position of theirs.





  Yep, same crew.

Here are a bunch of anti-gun positions of Obamas, Biden supported the same.    http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=3991


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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/18/2011 3:13:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: outhere69

quote:

ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59
"There are many in power who have tried awfully hard"

Ok....
Name names.

Obama / Biden.......Ya want more ?

Is this the same crew that signed a law allowing gun possession in national parks?  Gimmee an "anti-gun" position of theirs.





  Yep, same crew.

Here are a bunch of anti-gun positions of Obamas, Biden supported the same.    http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=3991




He meant give him more than 20 anti-gun provisions of theirs.

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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/18/2011 3:34:52 PM   
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BTW, most women are attacked from behind.  A gun in the purse would be useless; a gun in a holster may be out of reach, or not reachable after the takedown.  That's how someone can be raped even if they're carrying a .38.




   Ya can't just have a gun and figure everything's fine.  Ya gotta pay freakin attention to your surroundings and what's going on around you. Also include a little common sense on where you go.  If you're walking down the street listening to your walkman oblivious to that guy coming up from behind then your gun won't do you much good unless you can break away and get to it.  Same thing applies if you're sleeping and wake up with a guy standing over you, it's probably too late to retrieve your gun. You should prepare for that scenario by locking your bedroom door or if you have a dog, the dog will wake you up. The more noise the perpetrator or your dog makes the more likely you'll wake up and be prepared with your weapon when the guy breaks into your bedroom.

And what I actually said was;

 "I wonder how a rapist can rape some one with a .38 pointed at there head ??"

I didn't say;

"
I wonder how a rapist can rape some one even if they're carrying a .38."  but I addressed it anyway, they can't for the most part if you're paying attention.


 



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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/18/2011 3:52:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: outhere69

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59
"There are many in power who have tried awfully hard"

Ok....
Name names.

Obama / Biden.......Ya want more ?

Is this the same crew that signed a law allowing gun possession in national parks?  Gimmee an "anti-gun" position of theirs.





Yep, same crew.

Here are a bunch of anti-gun positions of Obamas, Biden supported the same.    http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=3991




He meant give him more than 20 anti-gun provisions of theirs.


I could make some up just like these guys (politicians) do with their constant lies and exaggerations concerning facts related to guns.

I can't wait till the next anti-gun poster asks for what lies and exaggerations.

This is just too easy.

*loads keyboard with high capacity high power ultra velocity ammo and no waiting period* 




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RE: Stupid Fucking Cunt Is Going To Kill Someone Someda... - 7/18/2011 6:04:47 PM   
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You fire blanks
no figures just suppositions..laughable

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