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SpiritedRadiance -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:16:00 PM)

Hannah id love to see you in about 10 years when you loose the chip on your shoulder, and realize you can be wrong, and that just because you 100 percent believe 100 percent you cant be.

You can be and in this case where the meanings are subjective you are....

My bdsm partners are just that all we do is bdsm, bondage, discipline, sadism or masochism.

my D/s partners are just that and all we do is D/s Dominance and submission...

My D/s partners CAN be Bdsm partners and my bdsm partners CAN be D/s partners, but they dont HAVE TO.

Its just like with everything else in this lifestyle, EVERY label means different things for different people. Your slave is my submissive and my bottom is your top and so forth and so on as the debate thats been done beyond to death.

D/s for me and for many is something that isnt at all related to bdsm. for you obviously it is, but it doesnt MAKE EVERYONE ELSE WRONG BECAUSE YOU CANT SEE PAST YOUR OWN DEFINITION AND ACCEPT OTHERS OPINIONS....



HannahLynHeather -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:16:12 PM)

whatever coookie, you want to insist that bdsm is only slap and tickle and that d/s is some sort of holy grail not to be sullied by association with the baser sexual instincts, go right the fuck ahead, but just know that you're wrong.



DecadentDesire -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:17:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather

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I noticed in the thread about the meaning of slut, you seemed to argue pretty hard that the word slut can have multiple meanings and that people can even subjectively define those meanings.

In light of that, I don't quite understand why your so hard pressed to make sure we all agree on your meaning and understanding of BDSM V.S. DS.
let me explain it to you.

i am arguing the exact fucking same point.

i am not the one trying to insist that bdsm has a narrow meaning that doesn't fucking include d/s. i am arguing for the broader, more flexible interpretation. just as i argued in the slut thread that the word slut meant more than just a promiscuous woman, i am arguing here that bdsm, and thus the bdsm lifestyle, is an umbrella term that covers all these activities.

clear on it now sugarplum?



Nope, not at all, honeybunny.

In one thread, I see you argueing that people should be allowed to define words how they see fit and in this thread I see you argueing about how people who don't define themselves under your broader definition are wrong.



HannahLynHeather -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:23:16 PM)

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Hannah id love to see you in about 10 years when you loose the chip on your shoulder, and realize you can be wrong, and that just because you 100 percent believe 100 percent you cant be.
i don't have a fucking chip on my shoulder. and of course i think i'm 100% right, so do you for fuck's sake. if you didn't you wouldn't be disputing what i say.

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My bdsm partners are just that all we do is bdsm, bondage, discipline, sadism or masochism.
that is not what bdsm fucking means anymore!! the term has fucking changed. got it? it has changed!!

BDSM is now an umbrella term that includes d/s.

if you want to believe otherwise go ahead, people believe all sorts of crazy fucking shit around here. but like i told coookie, if you choose to believe that, know that you are deliberately choosing to be wrong.



VideoAdminTheta -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:26:24 PM)

It might be a good idea to take it down a notch, while I catch up. While the sweet little names you all are calling one another aren't always seen as an attack, I doubt they are really meant in a sweetheart kind of way. Lighten up please.



SpiritedRadiance -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:28:09 PM)

So what your saying is its okay when you decide to change the definition of a word to suit yourself but if others dont agree to your change they must be wrong.

So what your saying is your the only person in the world that will ever had the authority to define what something means..

So oh god like little girl what  would you please in your omnipotent abilities write us mere mortals a book on how to do this the correct and right and only way?



HannahLynHeather -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:28:13 PM)

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In one thread, I see you argueing that people should be allowed to define words how they see fit and in this thread I see you argueing about how people who don't define themselves under your broader definition are wrong.
get glasses



Aileen1968 -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:28:44 PM)

You mean she really didn't mean it nicely when she called me sugar pie?????
Unbelievable.



LaTigresse -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:29:18 PM)

Sooooooooooooooooooo............if I interjected a few 'honeybun's or 'sugar lips' in here now.........it might be a problem?



VideoAdminTheta -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:30:58 PM)

[:D] Work with me please. I was trying to be nice.



DecadentDesire -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:31:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminTheta

It might be a good idea to take it down a notch, while I catch up. While the sweet little names you all are calling one another aren't always seen as an attack, I doubt they are really meant in a sweetheart kind of way. Lighten up please.


I don't know if meant this to be as a general statement or in direct response to my post, but if it's the latter, I was just having a little fun and don't mean any ill will by it.



HannahLynHeather -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:35:09 PM)

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So what your saying is its okay when you decide to change the definition of a word to suit yourself but if others dont agree to your change they must be wrong
no <highly accurate descriptive phrase removed to comply with theta's request>, i'm not the one who redefined it for fuck's sake. i posted several links to sites that have the broader definition.

you seem to be just as fucking good at following a thread as you are at resetting a router. too bad there's nobody you can call to walk you through this, eh?




SpiritedRadiance -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:41:15 PM)

And I posted several current links that differ from your defined definition. I also have several published books that you can read that describe it without the d/s


So because only you could possibly be right... Please do us all a favor and tell us everything else we need to know since only your opinion can be possibly right, please help us poor mortals out because weve been doing it wrong for years....



HannahLynHeather -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:49:51 PM)

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Actually...what ever she would say, I'd do the exact opposite.
breathe



HannahLynHeather -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:55:49 PM)

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And I posted several current links that differ from your defined definition. I also have several published books that you can read that describe it without the d/s
which only goes to show that the fucking meaning has changed.

somebody already said that on this thread, oh wait, that's right it was me.



VideoAdminTheta -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:57:31 PM)

Well I see we cannot temper the situation, so I will lock the thread and give you all a chance to take a break. Maybe when I am done pulling posts and re-open the thread, things will go smoother.



JstAnotherSub -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 7:57:36 PM)

Some people have changed how they interpret it is not the same as the meaning has changed.



VideoAdminTheta -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 8:23:59 PM)

Re-opened for your posting pleasure. Please refrain from making personal attacks, name calling and responding to or quoting a post that you know has a personal attack in it. If one or more of your posts were removed, it was for one of these reasons.

Let's try this again.

Thank you



Aynne88 -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/13/2011 10:16:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aileen1968


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ORIGINAL: slaveluci
I'm fairly convinced my parents couldn't have told you what BDSM was if you put a gun to their heads. They didn't do all the kinky things or have all the seemingly necessary trappings "lifestyle" devotees do. They just loved each other with everything they had. He was the wage earner, she was a housewife and mother. They both wanted it that way. She submitted to him in everyway and he honored her in every way. I learned so much about submission from her. They were the real deal, baby, whatever trumped up label you want to put on it. It worked for 33 years until my Dad passed.

Bottom line is that you can appear to live a "lifestyle" but have the freedom to not identify it as such. It can simply be your way - the way that works best for you...........luci


This is my experience too except my parents lasted 40 years until my mom died.

On a side note....Hannah can stomp her feet and say fuck and twatwaffle all she wants to try and convince people that she's right, but that don't make it so.






Agrees with Aileen, my parents too, 46 years and going strong. They wouldn't know BDSM from a mosh pit, but they do it every day. Their version anyway, and it's pretty spectacular. For a couple of straight wasp-y churhcgoers that is. [;)].



crazyml -> RE: Couples that ACT the parts of the lifestyle but claim NOT to be in it... (7/14/2011 12:05:42 AM)

Oh goodness, please, please, don't feel under any obligation to pay even the slightest attention, I really don't care all that much.

I'm really very sorry if you got the impression that my dislike of the "lifestyle" label was fervent, there are very few things I feel fervently about and this aint one of them.

I'm also sorry if you got the impression that I don't want to be "part of" the lifestyle, that certainly wasn't what I was saying. Since your reading comprehension skills are, doubtless, unimpeachable, I'll have to accept that the fault is mine.

Let me try and explain it to you in a better way.

I'm really delighted, I am tickled pink, cock-a-hoop, overjoyed to be a "part of" the BDSM lifestyle. Just as I'm passionate about the sailing lifestyle.

But I wouldn't want either my participation in the BDSM lifestyle or Sailing to define me.. these are a part of my lifestyle, they don't define it.

In that sense, the precise definition doesn't seem that important to me - But I'll give you my very subjective definition of "lifestyle" - to me a lifestyle represents a particular set of values, activities or beliefs. When you refer to someone's lifestyle, you're identifying them with a particular set of activities, values and beliefs. If someone were to describe me as a "lifestyle BDSM'er" they'd be missing out on all of the other values, activities and beliefs that define me and that would simply be inaccurate.

I hope that that helps explain my position.

Love'n'hugz,

ML



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