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RE: Sub-sub couple needs help - 7/20/2011 9:15:33 PM   
LanceHughes


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ORIGINAL: toystory69

Hey Lance,
Im sorry you feel this way, aside from being a complete DICK you did have some advice that was worth taking a look at. We did find and will attend a local MUNCH and we will get on the right track. I appreciate all the help you and everyone else has offered us. We did pay attention and are continuing our journey.

For a vanilla couple wanting to grow and experience a new lifestyle, many of the people that posted were actually very helpful. Mostly for my husband, who is comming out of a major depression and trying to come back and be the husband I have been missing for so long. Thank you to all the Doms/Dommes who offered advice.

STILL waiting for the joint picture.  Surely there's something around - a beach - graduation - someone else's wedding.

AND if it's all true, why don't you step back a moment and think that maybe Mr.Dom was trying to get into YOUR pants ! ! !

You told him what you were looking for (when you were using your phone)  HOW VERY CONVIENT that he just "happened" to have info that you were looking for!

Your tenses are all wrong to make the story ANYTHING but made up.

STILL waiting for joint pic!!!!

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RE: Sub-sub couple needs help - 7/20/2011 9:58:03 PM   
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Hey Lance

I have added a pic of us two to prove that we are a couple, it is on my profile just click to change the pic.

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RE: Sub-sub couple needs help - 7/21/2011 3:10:40 AM   
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Ok........  I went back and read the whole thread.  If I repeat anything, I apologize, but there are some things that probably do need to be said twice.

Btw, big kudos to Aileen for her post.  For those who don't know, Aileen isn't exactly the type to suggest folks getting out to munch groups.  If she's suggesting it, you really want to take it to heart.  (Never thought I'd see the day on that one, but I'm kind of happy to read it.  )  You're going to learn more there than from Mr Friend Dom who has the most impeccable timing in the universe for getting this good opportunity for himself landing in his lap. 

On the doubts about both members of this couple actively being on this thread, I can't say for certain either way.  OP, you have to understand that other folks have created profiles in their wife's name and pretended to be her to get some action going.  It's the internet and people do that kind of crap all of the time.  Add to that the deal that the story has changed at least three times and that's why people are suspicious.  Whether you're really both typing or not, there's no proof either way.  Avoid that issue by attending munches together. 

This next part I'm not saying to be offensive to you.  I don't see you as being all that Dominant.  You follow other people's lead way too easily.  I'm inclined to think that the wife doesn't see you as all that Dominant, either.  That probably has to do with the long term depression and areas of life where you either lack control or she perceives you as not being in charge.  You might not like it, but that makes sense to Me because if you were in a bad depression for years, the PTSD and depression had to have some control over you.  On top of this, and let Me be really clear about this - She specifically envisions you submitting to somebody else.  Now, some people can handle the idea of their Dom being in the submissive position, but a lot can't.  That's something to think about as far as how she sees you.

Tell you what.  You want to be Dominated?  Here's a task.  Go ask any ten people on this site who have met Me in person if they have ever gotten the impression that I would submit.  If before they read this post right here or actually got asked the question, if that mental image ever entered their mind.  My husband would laugh at you and My sub would look at you like you were from another planet.  (Probably a lot of other folks on the site would, too.)

Also, I don't really see you as being strong enough to handle your wife playing with Mr Friend Dom if it's going to be sexual.  Yes, yes, I've heard all about the MMF sex you've enjoyed before.  That's different than somebody being sexual with your wife without you being there and I honestly don't think you are ready to handle that.  You're not strong enough at this point and you're very afraid.  I'll grant you that it is a reasonable fear at this time.  She loves you and doesn't want to leave you, but it's going to screw with your head.

In My opinion, all of this at once is probably too much.  Her submitting, you submitting, everybody thinking it's about fucking, and all that other noise.  You're going sixty miles an hour in twelve different directions and you don't even realize you're in a school zone.  All that really needs to happen is for you to meet some other people, learn some simple topping techniques, and see where that takes you.  It might even be worth your while to pick up a copy of "When Someone You Love Is Kinky".  Try some stuff out.  Go to a flogging demo together.  See if you guys like rope.  If you do those things and you find the kink compatibility just isn't there, then you might want to think about having separate people for S/m play (other than learning opportunities) or you might find that poly for D/s is the right option.





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RE: Sub-sub couple needs help - 7/21/2011 4:52:12 AM   
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LP is so right. school zone speed . You opened the door of this wonderful lifestyle and see all the oportunities (or some of them).. And there are lots of them. Go TOGETHER at your local munch and meet fellow kinksters (fet is great for that).. Discuss every decision made and jump in . Slowly. And enjoy the ride (it has been a wonderful ride for me).

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RE: Confused - 7/21/2011 1:01:42 PM   
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quote:

He said that a hired Domme was fine, but if this was going to be a lifestyle, he could suggest some great Dommes that he knew, for my husband to strike up repor with, and referred me to fetlife.com and collarme.


I am quite curious about this statement. You want to find out if he is submissive and give him a taste of what it is to submit and suddenly has turned into that it should be a lifestyle change? That seems to me to be putting the cart before the horse.

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RE: Confused - 7/21/2011 1:18:42 PM   
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FR

LadyPact has already said what I wished I had.


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RE: Sub-sub couple needs help - 7/23/2011 12:28:51 PM   
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Lance,

Aside the fact that I cannot stand someone calling me or my husband a liar, I am posting our photo so you will get off your high horse. We have been married for 13 years, of course we think along the same lines. You don't stay with someone for that long without somekind of connection. Although I am a little more agressive with my verbiage than him. He won't call you a Dick, I will.

And we really need to get this straight, if I was going to cheat on him, I would. WE would not be making such a big fucking deal about it.




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RE: Sub-sub couple needs help - 7/23/2011 5:25:33 PM   
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fucking weird. this whole post is weird.

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RE: Sub-sub couple needs help - 7/23/2011 6:02:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: JanahX
fucking weird. this whole post is weird.

And you're finding this out NOW???


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RE: Sub-sub couple needs help - 7/23/2011 6:21:13 PM   
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quote:

Ok........ I went back and read the whole thread. If I repeat anything, I apologize, but there are some things that probably do need to be said twice.


Great post! I think you are very wise and providing a great service to noobs.

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RE: Confused - 7/23/2011 8:27:01 PM   
leadership527


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Need help!
... or a wife who respects you.

Wife wants to sub for a master and I know him. However I want to go through this with her and be by her side learning with her.
A conflict. It happens all the time. Since she's so interested in subbing, tell her that you're doing it your way.

the dom stated that he will not have a session until I give the him the ok.
good... but I'd like to believe that that is irellevant since your WIFE shouldn't be doing that till you give the OK.

My wife and I have talked alot about entering the lifestyle and I have learned alot over the past two weeks and I am will to learn more.
Yeah, it's kind of too bad because for Carol and I this was such an incredible journey as a couple.

It seems that I am losing her along the way and I do not want that.
You are and it doesn't matter what you want. It's what she wants. How does it make you feel that what you want doesn't actually matter?

She tells me that this is helping our relationsip by her experiencing a dom outside the marriage.
Oh? Seriously? You SERIOUSLY can't see how paper thin that is? That doesn't even qualify as a typical teenager excuse in my book. I'd be wanting to know why, exactly, a dom OUTSIDE the marriage was going to help the marriage. I'd also like to know why a dom INSIDE the marriage (that'd be you) is not preferred.


Please help me understand what wea are getting into and what to expect.
OK, I'll make it simple for you. Your wife is currently fascinated with the idea of submission. She doesn't see you as dominant nor does she really respect you. So, what you are getting into is she's going to find someone she does see as dominant and does respect. I don't think that's going to work out well for the marriage.

After signing up we have talked about me meeting a domme to see if this is what I want. I have not updated my profile and will be doing so fast (lol). She and I have talked about our past experiences and I have never strayed from being dom, with personality and profession.
OK seriously... so you have always been fixated on the dom side yet she thinks you're going to submit? I really want to go back to that "respect" word I used earlier. And while we're at it, I'd like to throw in another word... "trust". She doesn't trust you either. She doesn't even trust you to know yourself.

I am learning what she is looking for and eant to learn more about it. She does not like pain and that is where she is teaching me about slapping her ass then soothing it with kisses or a hand rub. I took my beer eairlier today and presses in between her shoulder blades then took my fingers and guided one finger doen her spine and she looked at me and stated that is what she is looking for and wants, so I can learn.
Dude, don't get me wrong. I don't buy into a lot of the BDSM memes. I have ZERO issue with Carol teaching me stuff or directing me in what she likes. Heck, I like doing things she likes and I like getting better at them. But seriously, that entire story was her in charge... totally. It is her who's shaping the upcoming change. It is her who's defining it in both the large and small details. I'm kind of curious what she thinks is going to happen when she actually gets around a dominant who ... bluntly... is going to put up with that behavior for something under 5 seconds.

I really don't know where to start to help you two. Honestly, I don't think I can. Only she can and in order to do so she's going to need to start caring about her husband and her marriage more than her rather interesting fascination with submission. I'm not hopeful.

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