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ORIGINAL: justasubslut

where does that leave experienced people who's relationships have ended? Be it they had one master or several, little experience or tons?

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

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ORIGINAL: justasubslut

where does that leave experienced people who's relationships have ended? Be it they had one master or several, little experience or tons?

It leaves them with more experience.  And that's the nature of life.

But that experience doesn't constitute "training" for the next relationship.  That's where I think you got confused.  Nobody can train you for your next D/s relationship except for the Dom that you ultimately choose to serve.  If you do it with anyone else, it's not "training".  Instead, it's the equivalent of "playing" with someone at the local dungeon.  People do that all the time.  They play with a play partner who is not their actual Dom/Domme.  But most people who play casually recognize that it is not training for their eventual "Master".  Rather, it's just play.  It's a short-term good time.  Nothing more.

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

I agree, you can't teach a sub how his next domme is going to want her tea brewed, but you can give him a good foundation for finding the domme of his dreams.

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009



I see what you mean, but I guess I don't agree with it completely.

The concern that I have is that the things that you THINK are preparing him for the Domme of his dreams may be the exact behaviors that piss her off once he finds her.

To me, training in specific behaviors in not necessary to be a good sub/slave.  Instead, a submissive attititude, and a willingness to learn your Dom/Domme's wishes and desires is all that is needed.  The rest of it is best learned through on-the-job training.  Otherwise, the Domme of my dreams will have to spend too much time making me "unlearn" stuff. 

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt


Please try to remember, most male subs are not like you. They are so focused on sex, they have given zero thought to being able to serve in any other way.

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But teaching him some basics of how to cook, clean, do a pedicure never goes amiss. His new domme may never even want a pedicure, true, but she might have a friend who does.

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

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ORIGINAL: justasubslut

where does that leave experienced people who's relationships have ended? Be it they had one master or several, little experience or tons?

It leaves them with more experience.  And that's the nature of life.

But that experience doesn't constitute "training" for the next relationship.  That's where I think you got confused.  Nobody can train you for your next D/s relationship except for the Dom that you ultimately choose to serve.  If you do it with anyone else, it's not "training".  Instead, it's the equivalent of "playing" with someone at the local dungeon.  People do that all the time.  They play with a play partner who is not their actual Dom/Domme.  But most people who play casually recognize that it is not training for their eventual "Master".  Rather, it's just play.  It's a short-term good time.  Nothing more.

As much as I respect your extremely well stated views, Roch, I have to disagree. I think the majority of male subs benefit from the type of training that emphasizes obedience with grace, the ins and outs of service based submission, becoming an expert at helping your domme with her personal grooming, how to determine your own limits, the proper execution of protocol, understanding how to negotiate a time limited session with a dom/me in a dungeon or play party situation, how to rise to the top and get noticed by femdommes and similar topics.

I agree, you can't teach a sub how his next domme is going to want her tea brewed, but you can give him a good foundation for finding the domme of his dreams.

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ORIGINAL: ChasteDream

Oh yes; all this chat and no profile! Fascinating. I'll keep my advice for someone real.

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However, if the sub/slave in question is this gross, why would you want to bother giving him/her of your time? The sub might benefit, true; but are you actually here to teach them to serve someone else? Wouldn't your time be better spent finding the sub/slave with whom you want to spend your time, and train them to please you?

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ORIGINAL: ChasteDream
However, if the sub/slave in question is this gross, why would you want to bother giving him/her of your time? The sub might benefit, true; but are you actually here to teach them to serve someone else? Wouldn't your time be better spent finding the sub/slave with whom you want to spend your time, and train them to please you?

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ORIGINAL: Palliata

but at the same time casual play sessions are fun for both parties so I see no reason 'training' relationships can't be mutually beneficial. The newbie improves their comfort level and learns some basics while both parties enjoy a bit of play. Sounds like a good enough deal to me.

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ORIGINAL: justasubslut
Ruined? Naw...just another roll of the dice in this adventure we call life. It's all good :)

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As much as I respect your extremely well stated views, Roch, I have to disagree. I think the majority of male subs benefit from the type of training that emphasizes obedience with grace, the ins and outs of service based submission, becoming an expert at helping your domme with her personal grooming, how to determine your own limits, the proper execution of protocol, understanding how to negotiate a time limited session with a dom/me in a dungeon or play party situation, how to rise to the top and get noticed by femdommes and similar topics.

I agree, you can't teach a sub how his next domme is going to want her tea brewed, but you can give him a good foundation for finding the domme of his dreams.

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ORIGINAL: Acer49

Any trainer who thinks that sexual activities of any kind are part of training to be done by anyone other that the chosen Master needs to have their privates ripped off  and shoved down their pathetic, slimy throats.