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SUBMALEUK11 -> Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/27/2011 6:31:12 PM)

I'll be honest I don't and I find it hard to believe any man would, I'd be interested to hear what the men on here say..



HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/27/2011 6:36:06 PM)

There was a thread on this not too long ago. I think it was in Ask a Mistress. I would post a link for you, but I don't remember the thread well enough to generate a worthwhile search. Sorry.



SUBMALEUK11 -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/27/2011 6:37:20 PM)

Ah okay, no worries I'll have a look for it



siamsa24 -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/27/2011 6:40:50 PM)

is this it?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_428758/mpage_1/tm.htm



lockedaway -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/27/2011 6:42:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SUBMALEUK11

I'll be honest I don't and I find it hard to believe any man would, I'd be interested to hear what the men on here say..


Well...that is the trick to successful domination, isn't it.  Of course once a guy has cum, his level of submission is going to decrease.  Disappear?  No...but certainly decrease.  he is also going to get a little drowsy.  That is why, in my opinion, a smart Domme doesn't ask all that much of him after he has cum.  She may ask him questions that re-affirms his status, etc. etc. but pushing play is about as fruitful as teasing a girl when she is pms'ing.  Knowing when to push, when to receded, when to just lay quietly is an art form in and of itself.



LadyPact -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/27/2011 6:45:49 PM)

Thread reference  http://www.collarchat.com/m_3636967/tm.htm



HeatherMcLeather -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/27/2011 6:54:06 PM)

That's the one I meant!



LadyPact -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/27/2011 7:00:21 PM)

Cool.  That one wasn't too long ago.  Three or four pages back in the Ask A Submissive section.  I know there have been others, but probably not as easy to try using the search feature for.

Hope it helps.



chiaThePet -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 12:53:38 AM)


What?!

We get to cum?!

Bitches.

chia* (the pet)



MissImmortalPain -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 1:21:14 AM)

I might have to take a look at the other thread now. I asked my pet and he said all he feels most of the time is sleepy. He said he knows even if I really enjoyed it I could still punch him in the face after if he pisses me off so he feels just as sub as before.



leadership527 -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 5:53:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway
Well...that is the trick to successful domination, isn't it.

In a top/bottom sense this seems kind of reasonable to me. It's certainly not the world of M/s, IE, TPE, etc.



littlekitten1 -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 6:54:17 AM)

Some guys can cum more than once without ever losing their sexual eagerness... SO I suppose not all guys lose their submissiveness once they came. ._. That's just my guess as a female.

My dom cums many times before we're done =) I once completely drained him by acting sexy and not letting his horniness go away. I suppose a domme could do the same to their toy... given that they have the ability to cum more than once ^_^



tj444 -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 6:58:56 AM)


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ORIGINAL: littlekitten1

Some guys can cum more than once without ever losing their sexual eagerness... SO I suppose not all guys lose their submissiveness once they came. ._. That's just my guess as a female.

yes, i sucked one guys cock that could cum repeatedly with no breaks.. 5 times in 50 minutes of solid sucking, so yeah, some guys can just keep on cumming..



LadyNTrainer -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 7:29:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SUBMALEUK11
I'll be honest I don't and I find it hard to believe any man would, I'd be interested to hear what the men on here say..


I've certainly run into the type you're describing, who totally lose interest in everything they say they are interested in while they are horny, once they've gotten their rocks off.  And dear ghod, do I ever despise them unless they are totally honest and up front to begin with that they are bottoms, not at all submissives.  It's quite frankly a lie to claim you are a submissive if in fact you're strictly a sexual bottom who is only interested in bedroom play when you are horny.  Lying to your partners is bad juju. 

There is nothing *wrong* with being oriented as a bottom (or a top) who just likes to play in the bedroom, as long as you're honest with your partners and you hook up with someone oriented the same way as you.  If you're not honest or there is a mismatch, you've got problems. 

Bottoms are not the same as submissives.  But what you seem to be saying is that there is no such thing as a male submissive, and that flat out isn't true.  Afterglow may be one of the most powerful feelings of submission that he has.  He describes it as a depth of intimate connection, the feeling of being deeply in love with his dominant, deep gratitude and submission.  We have a committed, mature, loving D/s relationship, and sex only makes it better.  For us, dominance and submission *is* love, so we both experience it more intensely in the afterglow of good sex. 

I have to wonder if a man who does not have these feelings and just wants to shoot off and head out is mature enough to be in a committed adult relationship.  If your feelings switch from submissive love to vanilla love, then I get that you're a bottom, and that's cool. If you can hook up with a top, you'll both be happy.   If you totally lose interest in being intimate and loving with her in any form as soon as you get off, please stick to blow-up dolls and paid professionals.  You're only going to deeply hurt a woman if you try for a relationship.



DesFIP -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 7:34:27 AM)

I would want to know what the op means by no longer feeling submissive.

Does he mean he doesn't want to continue to play? Well, that's sensible. Just like you don't still feel hungry right after eating.

Does he mean he no longer cares about his partner and wants him/her to be happy? That's something entirely different.

Of course you don't still feel like playing more right afterwards. That's natural. Also natural that your pain tolerance decreases without sexual desire fueling it. However telling your partner to go fuck herself because she asks you to clean up the toys is not normal if you want the relationship to continue.



lockedaway -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 7:42:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

I would want to know what the op means by no longer feeling submissive.

Does he mean he doesn't want to continue to play? Well, that's sensible. Just like you don't still feel hungry right after eating.

Does he mean he no longer cares about his partner and wants him/her to be happy? That's something entirely different.

Of course you don't still feel like playing more right afterwards. That's natural. Also natural that your pain tolerance decreases without sexual desire fueling it. However telling your partner to go fuck herself because she asks you to clean up the toys is not normal if you want the relationship to continue.



Very true.  In my experience, the depth of the submission is related to how the sub honestly views his Domme.  If he views his Domme as his superior, he is going to stay in his role....longer or forever.  If he views his Domme as someone who knows how to play well but a person whose life is in constant turmoil that he has to rush in and take care of, his submission is going to be tainted.  All in my opinion, of course. 

If i were to give advice, it would be this.  Get deeply inside his head and be his erotic polar opposite.  By being different and powerfully sexual, he comes to admire traits he does not possess.   If he is high strung, be calm, consistent and relentless in Your desires, soothing, mothering and sweetly belittling.  Clutch his brain in Your fist and he will maintain his role with more depth.



HannahLynHeather -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 7:47:36 AM)

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If he is high strung, be calm, consistent and relentless in Your desires, soothing, mothering and sweetly belittling.
or just be yourself and if he doesn't fall for who you are find somebody who does. yeah, yeah i know, fucking crazy ass radical idea.



DesFIP -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 7:53:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

Very true.  In my experience, the depth of the submission is related to how the sub honestly views his Domme.  If he views his Domme as his superior, he is going to stay in his role....longer or forever.  If he views his Domme as someone who knows how to play well but a person whose life is in constant turmoil that he has to rush in and take care of, his submission is going to be tainted.  All in my opinion, of course. 



Interesting in that you don't once mention emotions. The word love didn't come once to your mind. Only judgment.

If your judgment of her is that her life's a mess, but you're magnanimous enough to let her tie you up and whack at you in just the way you want, then my advice is that she finds someone more compatible.

Unless this is not your primary relationship, at which point you're both getting your emotional needs fed elsewhere. In that case, trade service for service and be honest about the value you both are receiving.



lockedaway -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 8:49:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

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ORIGINAL: lockedaway

Very true.  In my experience, the depth of the submission is related to how the sub honestly views his Domme.  If he views his Domme as his superior, he is going to stay in his role....longer or forever.  If he views his Domme as someone who knows how to play well but a person whose life is in constant turmoil that he has to rush in and take care of, his submission is going to be tainted.  All in my opinion, of course. 



Interesting in that you don't once mention emotions. The word love didn't come once to your mind. Only judgment.

If your judgment of her is that her life's a mess, but you're magnanimous enough to let her tie you up and whack at you in just the way you want, then my advice is that she finds someone more compatible.

Unless this is not your primary relationship, at which point you're both getting your emotional needs fed elsewhere. In that case, trade service for service and be honest about the value you both are receiving.



LOLOLOLOL i guess Your life is a mess.  What a reaction!  :)  Look...if You are a Domme, that is something You should project, in some manner, all the time, isn't it?  Just like if he is Your submissive, there should be an undercurrent of his acknowledgment of his position to You even when not at play.  You think it is easy for someone to be submissive to You and also be the knight in shining armor that saves the day?  You don't think that kind of role genuflection can get tricky for a guy?  Shit...for ANYONE for that matter???

This is part of my point.  One of the keys to being a good Owner is to have a realistic concept of human nature.



Arpig -> RE: Do any men still feel submissive when your balls have been emptied? (7/28/2011 8:56:03 AM)

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Look...if You are a Domme, that is something You should project, in some manner, all the time, isn't it?
No, not in reality, not in the real world. Maybe in your fantasies they all strut around all day long in leather and corsets, but a surprising number of them are mere humans. Humans who make mistakes, get scared, need reassurance, and want to be loved. Dommes (and Doms) really do need to just be held so they can cry now and then you know.

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One of the keys to being a good Owner is to have a realistic concept of human nature.
That applies to being a worthwhile submissive as well.



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